How a 4th Monitor is used in Sim Racing

A 24-hour race will test your pace, your patience, and your team. Ours did all three. We started P8 at Daytona in a stacked split and clawed to a proud P5—after an early high-speed spin, five minutes of repairs, and a long stretch nursing a bent car while refusing to fall out of the draft. The turning point came when the damage trickled away stop by stop, our fastest driver lit up the timing sheets, and we surged to P2 with qualifying-level laps. Then came the midnight gut-punch: an off by a teammate, a headset dying, and a gas pedal faceplate literally falling off mid-stint. Somehow, the lap times still dropped.

We break down what actually wins endurance races: smooth out-laps, draft discipline on the oval, braking right at the limit without cooking your rears, and protecting exits so you stay in the train. The mantra that stuck? Push but chill. It’s the difference between hero laps and a result that sticks when the sun comes up. We also talk candidly about the emotions that come with a near-podium slipping away, why P5 still matters, and how that fire fuels our shot at Spa 24.

On the gear side, we compare Fanatec CSL DD deals, Moza promos, and why Sim-Lab’s freestanding rigs with vario mounts make triple or quad displays far easier to align. We explain the fourth monitor advantage—keeping SimHub, race control dashboards, belt tensioner apps, streams, or even a baby monitor above your triples—so you never alt-tab or break immersion. If you’re eyeing triple TVs, we share the adapters, VESA plates, and stability tricks we use, plus a frank take on iRacing’s CPU hunger and moving to a new 5090-powered PC without losing your mind.

If you love endurance strategy, sim racing setups, and real-world problem solving under pressure, this one’s for you. Subscribe, share with a teammate, and drop your best endurance survival rule in the comments—what’s your version of push but chill?

Chapters

• 0:00 Introduction
• 3:20 Announcements
• 35:50 Main Discussion
• 55:00 Closing Thoughts And Community Thanks

Transcript

Jason: 0:00

This episode is brought to you by Trophy AI, the ultimate performance coach tool for sim racers. I'm your host, Jason Rivera, and I'm joined here by Mr. Jeff Smart. How's everyone doing? How's you doing, bud?

Jeff: 0:45

Jason, awesome, dude. I'm having a good time. Everybody can see I'm not my usual location, which we'll get into here shortly. But uh on the disc. Yeah, it's good. Uh had a great Thanksgiving, spent some time with the family. Ooh.

Jason: 0:58

Um, Thanksgiving with the family is very different. It's a very different Thanksgiving. Uh, so yeah, that's that sounds great, dude.

Jeff: 1:07

Uh how was your Thanksgiving? You sent me a bunch of pictures of killer food.

Jason: 1:10

I got some leftovers, bro.

Jeff: 1:12

When you get back, um I just crushed my like seventh plate of leftovers before I'm getting coming down here.

Jason: 1:19

I can't do this, man. The the the older we get, it the harder it gets every year. It's like, how much freaking turkey can I possibly consume? And then the gravy runs out. That was the that was the final showstopper. I was like, damn it, there's no more gravy. Um it's kind of hard to eat turkey left over, you know, it's not the same when it comes out the oven, but I'm glad you had a thanks, uh great Thanksgiving. Um, shout out to all of you and you know across the globe that celebrate this holiday. Shout out to everybody, which you know, this episode is gonna be a rather short episode. Um, Jeff's still on travel, uh moving and um spending time with his family is what he's doing. And uh me on the other hand, I'm just working on all kinds of stuff and and in the background, and we're just gonna get on and talk them some sim racing and not leave you in the dust here. Um and yeah, I I just again I I hope everyone had an excellent holiday and back to the gym, bro. At back to the gym, we all go.

Jeff: 2:24

So dude, that's yeah, that's that's no true words. Maybe we'll get an early start on that, you know, that that crap that everybody does. The gym's always packed on the you know, the the first work day basically after New Year's, get a get an early jump on that.

Jason: 2:38

Oh, yeah, bro. Even if listen, even if some people always come up with an excuse, right, to not go. And I'm like, dude, if even if you're broken, you can still sit in a sauna and sweat it out for 30 minutes. You know what I mean? You can still hang out in the pool in a jacuzzi, do something to get you out the house. That's how I feel, and I need to get back to that. So tomorrow, I keep saying tomorrow, but tomorrow I will be headed back there. Uh full game, full everything turned on, and I'm excited to do so. And it's gonna suck, but it must be done. So yeah, so we'll get right into announcements here. Um last week we spoke about the 24-hour event that went down.

Jeff: 3:28

Bro, how'd it go?

Jason: 3:30

And it went down. So, well, here's the thing I'll give you the quick synopsis of our results, and then I'll break into it. We ended P5, started P8, and P5 is our best result in ever in an endurance race, and we were one of the top splits there. So, really proud of that. Um, extremely proud of the SRC team. You know who you are, and Jeff, we're gonna get you there soon enough. Just, you know, I I Jeff is kind of in between worlds right now, and that's okay.

Jeff: 4:05

Neither here nor there.

Jason: 4:06

Yeah, I and Flight Simmons, you know, he's into the flight thing, he's got all kinds of gadgets you've been sending me. And to me, that's honestly a lot of us sim racers go through that. Is because you have a rig and because you have a PC and because you have all this power, you're like, well, what else can I do with it? And that is completely, totally natural thing to do. You know, some people get into truck driving, um, some people get into cutting grass, you know, and farm sim. So you are this that's a hundred percent normal, bro. So um sim racing, um, as long as as long as you don't forget about it, it it'll it'll always be there for you.

Jeff: 4:52

Yeah, yeah, it it's by far like it's still head and shoulders the passion. Um, to kind of like to what you said is like, oh, I have this powerful PC, you know, and a rig, I can do flight sim, you know, with just some buying some basic equipment. That's real, but you know, I've texted you a bunch, you know, saying, hey, like, yeah, I've been flying, but because I brought you know my flight sim up here, I'll leave it here, so at least I'll have something to do on the move, but uh until my racing gets here, my racing setup. But that's still a hundred percent the passion, is yeah, is the racing.

Jason: 5:20

Honestly, bro, and you know, Jeff and I are mil ex-military now. Well, that's a proud one to say for both of us. Um, and we kind of share the same passions, right? Most of us love freaking jets, you know. We love things that fly in the air and break the sound of speed, it's just something incredible, something that you need to see for your own eyes. But let me get back to the debrief. So we had let's go, yeah, yeah. We had a P5 finish, and at the time that we got P5, I wasn't necessarily happy that we got P5. So let me explain why that was a thing. And something happened during that race that was incredible, and I have a picture here to show you. Uh, but we'll get to that. So, anyways, we're practicing for the race. We're doing two-hour practices every other day, which is a lot of driving. Yeah.

Jeff: 6:15

That's commitment.

Jason: 6:17

Yes, we wanted to do well in Daytona. We were worried about Daytona because Daytona is dangerous, right? Daytona on the oval with um hypercars, LMDHs, you know, flying by you at some stupid speeds is a lot of stress to do that 24 hours to run those. I don't know, it's like 700 laps. It was something stupid around Daytona. Um, so we're practicing, we're doing everything, and a lot of the a lot of the I'm really proud of the team. A lot of the like I want to say 100% of the team were on the same kind of pace, you know, with some caveats here and there. Um, which if you watch the live stream, you'll see me getting on this case. Uh, and he knows who he is. But regardless of that, um a lot of us had the potential to to win. You know, a lot of us had matching lap times with our fastest driver, which is a big thing. It's a big thing because he has the higher I rating than us, and it usually bumps us into higher splits, which makes it difficult for us to win, right? Because imagine you're a 2K driver and everyone else is a 6K driver. You know, how do you compete against that? You know, 5K driver, 7, 6, 7k, whatever. You know, it's kind of like damn. So it's kind of like I need to keep up with these guys, but it it it honestly is a healthy thing. I think. Um, we don't just want to win just to say we won. We want to won that hard for you know, victor uh battle or you know, for the greater victorious glory, if you may. Um so we started the race, qualified P8. Um, it was a very short quality, but we managed to qualify P8 out of 24 drivers in our split. So then, yeah, it was a solid, solid start. So we qualified P8, and then uh our top driver, uh John, uh he I think he's able to gain two spots on his stint. He gained two spots, so that put us in the P6. I took the car, gained a spot to P5. Um, and then P4 was it? Yeah, no, it was I was chasing down P4, literally in sights of P4, and I took a curb, and the car bounced the way it usually bounces, and it bounced again. And we watched the replay like maybe a hundred times, and it just threw the car sideways. It spun out of control. Oh, it was at a high speed corner, so I think I spun like three times. I didn't know where the car was. It was kind of scary, dude. It was like almost like my heart rate was up. This is a simulator, but the car literally spun three times. Woo, woo, woo, hit the grass, spun, spun, spun, and I wasn't, I didn't know where the car was gonna end up. Ended up in the middle of the track, and another car hit the car. So, which is my responsibility, right? I messed up that corner. So then, you know, this is our third endurance 24 event, you know, officially. And I had what five minutes worth of repair damage when I drove it back into the pits. And I said, no, we were not sit here in the pits, and we're gonna drive this car, we're gonna fill it up with gas because I literally had like one lap left for a full tank of gas anyway. So my hope was the damage wasn't so bad. So pulled it into the pits, put the gas in her, and I saw the clock, and it was five minutes. So for the pat for the next 12 hours, 12, one, two, 12 hours, we drove this car as a team, damaged. And every time we went into the pits, that damage was getting fixed little by little. And the the team was awesome because the team would switch the camera and we would literally see the bumpers being pulled out. Yeah, it was dope. The bumpers were coming up. Yeah, you go back and you see it, dude. And it little by little, little by little, little by little. And by the time all the drivers went through a full rotation, when we gave back the car to our star driver, our fastest driver, it was a brand new car. It was a brand new car. It was a brand new car. And we went up to we had a few incidents in between. Um, we had some people get pushed and knocked, and but still, we went up to P9, then back down to P7, then went up to P9, then back down to P7. When we gave the car to our top driver, he took it from P7 to P2. No, he took it. I got the car handed to me at P7. I took it down to P5, and then from P5, John took it from P4, P3, P2.

Jeff: 11:15

And then that moment, like in F1, when Sonny Hayes gets in the GT, the Porsche. Dude, it was Daytona. That's what you guys are. It was crazy.

Jason: 11:22

It was crazy because everybody was excited. It was like, yo, we're back into the we're back in the race on the same lap. We didn't lose time, even though the car was significantly slower. And it has some steering, but dude, I was just like, I didn't want to hear it. I was like, just drive the damn car. Don't worry about a millimeter worth off of steering. Just drive the car, stay in the draft as hard as you can. Because if you're not in the draft, you're dead in these kind of races. The same with Monza, Daytona is the same situation. If you're not in draft, you're you're a dead stick, bro, on track. If everyone else is on draft, you're never gonna catch them. You know, it's impossible. So anyway, so the we get to P2, and P1 is like 60 seconds away from us. And John is pushing and pushing and pushing every lap, push like quality laps, like that kind of pushing. Okay, like literally taking the tire and just scraping the living shit out of it out of every single corner, like breaking the the limits of the, you know, I don't know. He was just really going for it because he got excited. He's like, yo, we got 10 hours to go, and we're P2. Um, so we he I think he got his time down to 40 seconds away from P1, and then the car, we were able to lap P2. Like we did a whole lap around him after we passed him. That's how that's how crazy it was. Wow. So then it was my turn to drive, and it was late at night, and I did a half a stint so that way I can do the half stint, restart the stream because YouTube limits me to 12 hours of stream, so I have to time it right so I can sleep at night. Yeah, it's just that small or it's a whole ordeal, dude. It's a whole ordeal, this thing. So then um, so yeah, sorry. Uh so then P2, yeah, I took the car, held the P2 down, solid for my stint for my um, I think was it a double stint? No, it was a I think it was a single stint. I think I held it down and I gave the car to another teammate, and the other teammate had an incident and damaged the car, and I went to bed. I was really upset um because we worked so hard, but it's not his fault entirely, it's not his fault, it's just things that happen, right? So I woke up next morning and um I think I woke up an hour before and we crossed the line at P5. So the the thing that hurts me was that we had P2. We were in P2 with a brand new car. For 12 hours, we drove a damaged car. And not only that, I have a picture to show you guys on not only not only did we drive this car damaged, one of our one of our drivers during his last three laps was pushing the car faster than we've ever seen him push any car. And he did some training, he did some one-on-one training with our top driver. Um, and his microphone, his headset, it the battery ran out, and we were worried because we seen him following cars and doing some crazy maneuvers, and we're like, yo, you're gonna crash, dude. Chill, we were saying chill. Um, the new team slogan now is um uh push, but chill. Thanks, John. That that that that came out from him. And look how he raced with no headset for the last three laps around Daytona doing record times for him. I gotta share this. This was this blew our fucking mind. This is how he raced. What do you see here, Jeff?

Jeff: 15:34

Did he he so he obviously has to know that's a pro that he's got a problem, right? It does he can just look down and see that uh hey, my gas pedal gone. Like gas gas pedals left the chat.

Jason: 15:50

So the gas pedal he put some he installed these rotor rumble uh brake and they I guess they were rumbling the shit out of the pedal. Um, these are a very nice set of pedal, these are the only pneumatic sets that exist in sim racing, which is dope. These are the SRP, so they're air, they're pneumatic. Uh I you know these were if I didn't get the Heisen belts when I started sim racing like premium, this would have been this would have been what I have here today. But imagine racing with your gas pedal literally below your foot. Your foot goes here without a headset, he can't hear us. He needs to pull into the to the pits and turn the car over to somebody. He didn't hear any of that shit.

Jeff: 16:42

So he just randomly goes into the pits and hopes that you guys are stint.

Jason: 16:47

He did his stint passing people and doing insane lap times without a without a gas pedal, basically. That's wild, without a faceplate.

Jeff: 16:58

So now we gotta do like system checks on your PC, but now you have to do like you know, make sure you're screw checks, bro.

Jason: 17:04

I told him get some freaking Loctite or something, you know?

Jeff: 17:09

So caught her pinned safety pinned and everything, like in the actual race car.

Jason: 17:15

So this is when it was kind of the turning point. It's like the car's damaged, and we have 22, I don't know how many hours. Uh 20 hours to go when this happened. The amount of motivation that came from the team was incredible. So uh I just you know, big shout out to Big Dave. This is Dave's pedals. You met Dave at the expo of Jeff. Oh, I know Dave. Proud of you, buddy. This is Dave's setup, and good for you. You know, he was he was pushing, he was out there pushing, and uh he sent this to us right after he got out the car. He literally plugged his headset in. He's like, dude, you don't know what happened to me. You don't understand. Like, I gotta take a picture of this.

Jeff: 18:01

I can bet one thing for sure, Dave, that will never happen to you again. No, I can bet for sure.

Jason: 18:08

No, I told him, get some Loctite, dude, or something, yo. Get get a screw behind it and secure it, but something, yeah. You'd never guess, right? That something like that can happen. But after after we crossed and finished P5, and I had time to really gather my thoughts, I'm like, P5 is a great fucking finish. Honestly, P5 is an excellent finish. I just you get a taste of that podium, and when you lose it, it's kind of like, oh, you know, we can we could have been P2. Could have been. So it's I could say this that we we held P2. Our our number one driver was the fastest driver on track. Like, hands down, out of the GT3s, he was the fastest one. And we are going to do it again. So spot 24 hours is happening. Uh, Nick, this weekend. So, you know, guys, stay tuned for that one if you guys want to tune in. Um, thank you so much for all the people that did tune in. Uh, you know who you are. So here's a quick story, Jason, if you don't mind.

Jeff: 19:15

Yeah, sure. So I jumped in a couple times to the stream. Um, and one time I was like, Boys, where we at? How we doing? And it was awkward. It was I could tell something had happened and nobody wanted to talk about it. Yeah. So I was like that meme from um The Simpsons, you know, the guy comes out of the bushes, and then it was I was like, Oh geez, I'm gonna just gently go back to bushes and exit the chat and and let it let it go. Um, and then I jumped in a couple hours later, and you guys were back back to the you know, the racing that we know you guys can do. So good job, dude. It sounds like a heck of a story, and it just gives you, like you said, that little bit of red crumbs. Okay, listen. We're good. Like we could be really good if we you know if we could disagree on something all day, bro.

Jason: 20:05

But if we don't absolutely we could disagree on something on anything, we can disagree on F1 and go back and forth, but at the end of the day, we're passionate, and that's where this is coming from. The the whole point of being upset or being mad or or or just pissed off is because we want to win. We're not here just to pretend, you know what I'm saying? Like 100%. Yeah, we're here to survive the race, yes. But I think we're a little past that, right? I think that we had pace to win, you know what I mean? To be on the podium, to win that podium, to you know, it would have been my honor to come on here and say, yo, we got P2 or P1. You know, that would be that would be a massive achievement for the team. So, yeah, I mean, some people get upset, and sometimes we go a little overboard, right? I, you know, for especially me, I took it to heart and I was really tired. It was one o'clock in the morning when I went to sleep and I was like, you know, woke up the next day and I was like, you know what? P5 is a great finish. Let's just say that. Because we started P8, we gained three spots, we survived the race. You know, what else? Well overcame some adversity. Yeah, and I screwed up in the beginning. Imagine if I didn't screw up that car in the beginning. You know, where would we? We would probably be P1. You know, who knows? You know, because it started with me losing the car anyway, you know, and that's how I looked at it. I was like, you know, the guys drove the car damaged, and yes, we had a perfectly fine vehicle, and it had two incidents in one lap. Yes, that pissed me off because we worked so hard, right? But again, it's it's racing, it's it's the magic of this hobby, right? It's being afraid when you first get into the car. That was me. My stomach was going crazy before getting into the car. And as soon as I'm in the car, I'm okay. I don't care. Um as soon as I do an outlap, my first outlap is usually the worst, bro. It's like breaking early or it depends. If if if there's cars really close by, then I wouldn't risk that. But you know, you're a little safe going out there in the and you know, in the first two laps, slightly slave, safe, but you still have to be aware of your surroundings too. Uh, that's all I will say about it.

Jeff: 22:39

But um overall, excited to see what you guys got in in for spa. It seems like you guys got a solid team, everybody's got good pace. Yeah. Um, just kind of need to.

Jason: 22:50

I hope to see you one day, uh, one day one uh with us because we're same here. We would love to have like I we're struggling right now for for teammates, right? So and that was another thing that was kind of bothering me is um people canceling at the last minute. You know, some some things, there's a lot of things that led up to that point where I just kind of you know got upset. Um, but sim racing should be the priority here. Uh, nothing else. If you build us, if you build the simulator, if you build the rig, that rig is built for racing. You know what I mean? Um, and that's all I'm gonna say about that. You know, it's same thing. You build the flight sim, Jeff, you build the racing. You're gonna race and fly on both of them respectively. And you did it in a way where one doesn't interfere with the other. That's why you have a second rig. Um, that we didn't know about, by the way. Uh still don't have much, but it's it will eventually be there. Jeff did some shopping once again. He's on a shopping spree, and that's good for him. You know, that's very I'm super happy for you, bro. That's awesome. You've come a long way, let's just say. You could shop on your own. You didn't even text me or nothing. You went and you bought it, and I was like, Yeah, that's a good deal. You know what I mean? You you you graduated from telling me what's good and what's not good, and you're actually able to tell people what's good and what's not good. You know the difference. You know, that's that's a that's a hundred percent, Jeff. You know, his PC, you bought it yourself, you built it yourself, you hooked it up yourself, you did a benchmark. I didn't get a single phone call, guys. You know, you're right. You didn't that's wild. Did I not? I didn't get a single phone call. All I got was, yo, this shit is dope. This shit had those. That's all I got. All I got was I'm throwing everything I can at it, and the PC is like nothing. That 5090 is taking everything you're throwing at it, and is like, yeah, whatever. It's gone. This is nothing, which is awesome, right?

Jeff: 24:54

Yeah, we'll see when you know all the you know the sim stuff gets my my uh sim race, the racing stuff gets here, and you know, we're integrating it into the rig and all the accessories that go with it. And um, I'm sure there'll be some hiccups and stuff along the way, but you know, that's that's as we've learned, as I've learned, that's part of you know, sometimes it's not the hardware, right?

Jason: 25:17

Sometimes it's the software doesn't that doesn't act right. You know, I you know I have a nice 4090 series card, and iRacing is one of the toughest sims to play with it, you know. It I can throw any other sim at it and and it get like double the frame rate of the frames I'm getting. You know what I mean? That's that's because i racing is an old sim, it's unoptimized, it really is. It's very CPU heavy. Um so your CPU upgrade is quite significant from what you had. Uh, I think that is the biggest upgrade because you had a 4070 Ti. That's not a bad video card. The 5090 is gonna help you with the back end, with the the VR stuff that you wanted to do. Um, the 4070 Ti is up for sale, by the way. If anybody's that whole rig is up for sale and it's in great, excellent condition. I think it's still on the warranty, too. Everything's still on the warranty. Um, you know, we used NZXT, so you have a two-year warranty with that. I I think I'm pretty sure everything's still up to par and manufacturer and parts. They're all brand new parts in there. So that's PC. Absolutely solid PC. Yeah. So that was the that concludes the 24 event for the Daytona race. Um, again, overall, a big shout out to the team. I'm very happy and proud of them. Um, and I'm excited for the next one, man. And I'm excited maybe one day to have you on the team, Jeff, so you can get out there and and do your stint, man, and experience something like that because it is freaking, it's very different than watching it. I'll tell you now. It's a lot of there's a lot of emotions going on and people getting tired and people waking up and jumping in and different hours. Yeah, yeah, it's a lot of shit. It's a lot of stuff going on. So we're we are about 89% sure at a time of this recording that we are doing this event because again, the holidays are here, and a lot of people are busy with family. So we're trying, we're trying to see if we can make this race work. But yeah, I that's kind of a very extremely long announcement from me. I'm sorry about that.

Jeff: 27:42

It's a little good debrief. Yeah, that's cool. I'm sure everybody will love hearing this.

Jason: 27:45

But uh the story, yeah, yeah, the story's there, and on the live stream, I mean that's 24 hours, you can kind of skim through, but um, you can see what happened to Dave on his first stint. I think Dave was the driver after me, so you could kind of time it that way. It's all on YouTube. Um, the full 24 is there, so if you guys have a lot of free time to watch a 24, by all means, like and subscribe, you know. So over to you, man, for announcements, man. I know you're in the middle of a move, so I'll let you get into it, bro.

Jeff: 28:19

Yeah, I am uh my time in Hawaii has came to come to an end. Uh, me and the family are moving back to the east coast um for a whole bunch of reasons that I'm not gonna don't need to get into here. But uh it's kind of led to kind of uh, I guess an upgrade, you know, is uh all my stuff has to get put on a boat and shipped across the Pacific Ocean, then put on a uh a trailer and drove across the country to the east coast. And after doing some talking with uh you know Jason and uh some other people, PC sitting on a boat for 30 days is uh not ideal. Um, and as well with that was lining up with some Black Friday deals uh with the Micro Center. I did end up pulling the trigger on a new PC, which we've talked about a bunch here, and we'll probably maybe do a deeper dive some other uh you know, some other episode. But I did pick it up, so it is here. Um, I do have some flights and stuff. I've been working with it here. Um and slowly, you know, you guys will start to see, you know, the studio take place. Um a couple between here and a couple back in Hawaii as we as I do the transition back and forth. Um, but I am super excited to kind of get you know the dust settled from the move and kind of uh you know, just it's kind of purgatory right now, right? I don't I'm I'm still technically live in Hawaii, but I don't live in Hawaii. Like I will we're traveling back there um you know in the next 24, 48 hours just to kind of finish packing up and then you know in like 35 days we're moving back to the East Coast for good. So it's just kind of purgatory right now. And I won't get my sim racing gear, you know, for probably till maybe mid February. So it's kind of works out that I have the PC here. Um, I will go back to Hawaii and put the other one up for sale. Um, but I do have my Flight Sim stuff here. So I well, that will be able to keep me busy. Um, at least, you know, scratch that itch, if you will, until um, you know, my stuff gets delivered from from Hawaii. So that's kind of what I got going on right now here. So I apologize you don't have uh the no Jeff semi-down background, but uh good to go, bro. You guys will get to see the transition.

Jason: 30:29

We got some we got some we got some flexing in the back. I see a little new things have happening back there, yeah. Which I appreciate, you know.

Jeff: 30:36

Try to make some moves.

Jason: 30:37

Um, I like it though. Um listen, guys, if I'm being serious, if you guys are willing to pay the shipping, which surprisingly is not that bad, um, you'll get a killer deal. So if you're interested in Jeff's PC second hand, we'll even put some Chicane podcast stickers all over it. Uh let us know. Send us an email at theshanepodcast at gmail.com and we'll talk about a decent price for you. We'll we'll we'll just we'll we'll let Jeff decide. It's his hardware, but I guarantee you it's good stuff if you're trying to save a penny. If you haven't, if you're looking for a decent PC, it's a hell of a build. It will handle pretty much anything you throw at it.

Jeff: 31:22

Triples 1440, no problem.

Jason: 31:24

Yep, pretty much all the uh already. Yes, 100%.

Jeff: 31:28

All of the heart, all of the uh, you know, the the the the sims out there.

Jason: 31:32

So if you're interested in the specs, send us an email, we'll send that to you and we'll send you a price. And depending on where it's going, then yeah, we'll talk about uh uh shipping costs if if if Jeff feels like he wants to move in that for in that uh fashion.

Jeff: 31:48

So it is pretty cool though that uh you know iRacing headquarters is like legitimately right on the road.

Jason: 31:55

I know we need to do that.

Jeff: 31:56

It's cool, it's super cool. I'll have to uh I'll have to go like take a wal walk over there and just take a selfie.

Jason: 32:02

You got drones, bro. Why don't you fly your drone over the headquarters? You think like we can so see some top secret shit going on in there?

Jeff: 32:10

And I've driven past it before, you know, previously times I've been uh as I just blurted it out here.

Jason: 32:15

Nimcross watches and like watch out for a fucking drone, registered as Jeff Smart, aka Chick Hay.

Jeff: 32:22

It's like in it, it's in an industrial park in a building. They share, you know, a building with like three other companies. And if it wasn't for some little sign that said i racing, you wouldn't know what it is.

Jason: 32:35

Um I would love for you to tour the facility and do it. Let's do a special or something. Um I'm pretty sure Nim. Uh this this message goes directly to you. You have a new neighbor now, bro. So we're gonna have to uh uh uh uh recall a favor that uh that you kind of threw out there for us. So yeah, I would be awesome to have you go in there and do a special. Um yeah, and if I can, I'll fly out there or something.

Jeff: 33:07

Yeah, but if you crash here for a couple days, sure.

Jason: 33:09

I would be awesome. See, uh get some good food because yeah, there's some good food out there on the east coast.

Jeff: 33:15

Um food's totally different, man. We went to like me and my wife, and you know, our one of our friends, uh, him and his wife went to a seafood joint, and I was like, This isn't this isn't seafood. This ain't no seafood. I don't want to insult anybody, but it is it depends, right? Hawaii has it was just different seafood, right? It just was like Haddock versus Mahi Mahi, you know. Yeah, but come on, bro. Clams and steamers and you got Italian foods, yeah. The Italian food.

Jason: 33:44

I know you guys you got some Italian food out there, you got some maybe some cheesesteaks over there. Uh I know you get uh striped bass over there, which is yeah, some stripers.

Jeff: 33:55

Yeah, we have a like one thing in Hawaii doesn't have is a good sandwich joint. Like you can't just walk in and get an Italian anywhere. So I've had my fair share of Italian subs and you know, cold cut sandwiches and stuff like that, because you just can't get that in Hawaii. But there ain't no pokeballs over here, buddy.

Jason: 34:10

There's pros and cons to everything. Absolutely. You know what I mean? There's differences, and you know, my infatuation with Japan, which I will be there very soon. Um, again, I would love to live there, but then I also think, you know, I'm I'm also a proud American, you know. I love this country, I love that you know, we serve this country. I huge, I don't know. It's very different to live somewhere, you know what I mean, than to visit somewhere. And I always tell people that when they come to Hawaii, they're like, I just want to move here. And I'm like, it's very, very different to live here.

Jeff: 34:46

It's a learning curve of having a as we usually say, it's there's a lot of cost to live in paradise.

Jason: 34:51

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Jeff: 35:36

So speaking of price, we got the uh well, yeah. Well, yeah.

Jason: 35:44

So this I'd be exactly what a transition. Yeah, it's great transition, excellent. So, main discussion. It was gonna be a very short one, guys, because again, I don't want to take too much time from Jeff. Um, this one was kind of last minute, and I apologize to him many times before the uh before we hit record, but I'll just go a quick rundown on what I've found so far, and hopefully by the time you watch this, it you can get a chance to get your hands on it. So, you know, Fanatech, I'll just go over it real quick. The CSL DD, the 5 Newton is going for $379.99. Uh, these are all US prices. The 8 Newton for $479.99. And the turismo Gran Turismo DD Pro uh is on well, it doesn't, it doesn't, it doesn't give me a price. So let's move on to Mozart. Uh Moza Black Friday uh 2025 promo is up at to 29% off selected racing and flight gear. So check out Moza GT Omega Rigs, which the problem with GT Omega rigs, last time I checked, they don't ship to the US. So if you guys can get it, they have a 15% off on some of their stuff. Really? The best deal right now, in my opinion, forget about TrackRacer. First of all, I'll reserve my comment. Forget about TrackRacer, forget about G, you already know. Forget about TrackRacer, forget about GT Omega, forget about ASR. Listen, Sim Lab is a in the United States of America. It has distribution here. They are having an 11% discount on everything. On everything. And these rigs are rock solid. I own one. Jeff owns two of them now.

Jeff: 37:45

Uh and if I could add a little bit, is Micro Center has $50 off the Evo. There you go. If you live by one, you don't have to pay shipping.

Jason: 37:54

So I will just go and pick it up.

Jeff: 37:56

I had a moment of weakness over there, and unfortunately, now I have another one.

Jason: 38:00

You got another one. That's great. Um, but yeah, the GT Evo is an excellent choice. Um, it's it's hard to call it budget because the price is kind of on the budget side, but then it's a solid piece of kit. You know what? Yeah, yes, 8020. It's thick, it's that it's motion ready, you know what I mean? There's rigs that are not can't take the motion, and the Evo is perfectly fine. Um, and I will say this another person, shout out to Danny Newman Race in DNR, has a SimLab rig, you know, SimLab. So they also um partnered with Mercedes. So Mercedes is the official Patronus, official partnership with uh Simlab. Um what else? Amazon in general. I mean, Amazon has crazy freaking deals. I would be on there like a hawk, especially if you're looking for Moza gear. If you're looking for Moza gear, Amazon, you can't beat them. It Amazon is better than Moza while they're selling you Moza gear. While they're selling you Moza gear because Amazon will give you a no question, no nothing. You didn't like it, return it. Here's the shipping label, return it back to me. It weighs 1,500 pounds, huh? Don't worry about it, man. We'll pay for that shipping. You don't you don't have to deal with this back and forth with manufacturers and saying you gotta explain to them and then they have to have a reason, they gotta approve it. Amazon is a gift from God, bro. Gift from God. And if you don't have Amazon Prime, it's all right. You know what I mean? It's all right. You pay for the shipping, but they still it still comes with their return policy. You may have to ship it back. So that's what I mean. It most of us, Americans at least, we got a prime membership. It listen, if you have a wife, you better make sure you have a prime membership.

Jeff: 39:58

You know what I mean? If she doesn't know about prime, good for you. Lucky you, lucky you.

Jason: 40:04

Because guess what?

Jeff: 40:05

Mine keeps single-handedly keeps Amazon of business.

Jason: 40:08

I can't damn she she's a factor in their uh what is it? In their in their stock. The cost estimate. Yeah, they have the stock freaking meetings about Jeff's wife and how much she spent this.

Jeff: 40:22

Package comes, toothpaste, package comes, shampoo. Yeah, she's like, my god. Then she's like, Well, think about it. If you go to the, you know, every time you go to store to get something, I just don't go to the store. And I'm like, okay.

Jason: 40:33

Yeah, Amazon is great, too, especially for pets, too. They they straight up killed the the pet food thing market, it's gone, bro. You got that subscribe, and it the food, the same food that you like for your dog, animal, or cat, whatever, it'll be there on the date. You know what I'm saying? It'll it'll show up again and again. And I do that with my shaving stuff, even though I didn't shave because I've just been a rebel lately. Um, and I know Jeff has been a rebel too. Look at him just growing it out. Uh, you know, it's the holidays, you know, who cares? But uh yeah, just keep an eye on Amazon, and that's really all I have this year. I got one more. Yeah, go ahead. What you got?

Jeff: 41:18

If you're looking for a gift here, a stocking stuffer, you know, go get some go get yourself some Chicane Podcast merch. You can get the link just below the video. Good quality stuff.

Jason: 41:29

Thank you, appreciate it. That'll support the show. Um, but it's mostly honestly, the the profit gain, it's all for you. You know what I mean? I try to keep those prices as low as I possibly can just to keep the store going and pay for distribution. That way it ships out to you immediately. It's not like you have to wait on me or Jeff to ship it out. So I appreciate that, Jeff. Thank you. Um maybe next year we'll have a Black Friday sale. If the numbers grow a little bit, I have to message. Hey, listen.

Jeff: 42:04

As you can tell, we're we do this for prop for you know passion, not for the dollar.

Jason: 42:08

So this is true. We're here for the passion. This is true. You know, even though um, yeah, our our passion is our hobby, right? And that's where the podcast falls in the middle of it. It's kind of like giving you a snapshot of our lives within the hobby. Um, but the more again, I'll say it one more time. The most important thing is to do what you love, bro. You know, don't do it for anything else. Do what you love. If you're not having fun, then then you need to stop doing what you're doing. And you need to find something else that's gonna make you happy. That that's that's hands. Yeah. So quick uh few things before we uh before we shut her down. Let me see. Let me let me check the the clock here. Um yeah, Jeff, uh, I think real quick, we have a uh a quick discussion about a fourth monitor, so I'll let Jeff take over.

Jeff: 43:09

Yeah, you know, we haven't talked about them uh on the show, and uh it's it it it comes up on the um the Facebook groups and on Reddit every now and again about the need for fourth monitors. And I would love to move out of the way and you can see my rig, you know, back in my house in Hawaii that has the fourth monitor. But for those that don't know, the fourth monitor is you know your traditional triple screens, um, but the monitor that's mounted above the center one, usually at like a 45 degree angle. And I think we should just have it just Jason, let's have a discussion over a you know, what do you use it for? Is it needed? Does it help you? Um, you know, and just kind of give people some uh advice on types of monitors that are ideal for um that fourth monitor over the top. So um I'm just gonna start off with a little bit of data. Here is uh this is not at all, you know, these are super just nice to have um pieces of equipment that help you with uh racing. For me, I usually use my fourth monitor, is my desktop um for true just your traditional desktop of my icons up there. I usually have SimLab, um, the cubic app, or excuse me, Sim Hub, Cubic app mod uh app up there. So my belt tensioner, um, and usually just launch the games from the Sims from up there, and then they just start on the triple screens. Um, once I'm in a race, I usually have um uh lovely dash, uh, you know, or some type of data.

Jason: 44:45

Um we gotta get you onto the new DNR stuff.

Jeff: 44:48

The DNR, yeah. I haven't been home in a while, so I need to get on that free right now.

Jason: 44:53

By the way, guys, check out Danny Newman Racing, his new pit crew. I think it's called Pit. I gotta I gotta look it up. It's called Pit Something.

Jeff: 45:02

Um, I can't believe it's not just Google Danny Newman Racing, you'll find it. Good stuff. The dude always produces awesome stuff.

Jason: 45:09

Yeah, it's a free. Um, I can't believe it. I'll put it on the I'll put it in the description. You know, somebody grill me, somebody correct me in the comments about what it is. I'm not even gonna search for it. But yeah.

Jeff: 45:22

And another reason that these fourth monitors are nice is if, and especially the way I I feel like I have it configured is if there's something, you know, that I need to get back to the desktop and I'm still have the triple screen set up, I don't have to, you know, minimize that, and then it's all like it pops back up windowed a lot of times in iRacync, etc. So I can jump in there, click whatever I need to do, change, um, and then I can you know just you know, usually click back in my triples and I'm back to doing whatever I was doing. Um but Jason, what do you use your fourth monitor for? How how do you kind of um have your setup? What's your use for it?

Jason: 46:00

Okay, so the fourth monitor, you know, when I first started getting into sim racing, uh you know, you start trying a bunch of stuff, right? You start downloading all kinds of stuff, figuring out what works for you, what doesn't. Um and I want to say that it depends if it's worth it. I want to say if it depends on what kind of what kind of racer are you or what kind of person you are, and what kind of situation you're in. And I heard a very interesting story the other day, and it was about one of uh one of our drivers, SRC driver, and one of our recent members, uh Brandon. So shout out to Brandon from uh Canada, and he is part of the GRL. And I believe in a race, he told me he told the group that he has his baby monitor feed on his fourth monitor to keep an eye on his kids while he's racing, which is genius, genius.

Jeff: 47:07

Bro, some of us are playing checkers, others are playing checks. That is next level, yeah.

Jason: 47:16

Next level, he's watching his son or his daughter forget, you know, sleeping in the in the bed. And he's like, yo, you look up, all you gotta do is look up. So I mean, that's where we we say this a lot. When there's a will, there's a freaking way. I swear to God, he was laying it on thick when he said that. I was like, you know, that's a great freaking excuse to get a fourth monitor for the wife. Dude, that is that that's hey, you want me to the baby? I got a camera. You know what I'm saying?

Jeff: 47:48

I'll take us, it'll be my job to watch it for the next two hours.

Jason: 47:51

I will I will take it a step further. I'll buy some high-tech shit where you can sense the the body's temperature, see if he's cold, to see if it'll attract, yeah, all the vitamins the parking, all the data, and it's telling me the last time he woke up, the last time he moved, you know.

Jeff: 48:11

The statistics over the history of you know, kid sleeping, he's due to wake up in 20 minutes, you know.

Jason: 48:16

Yeah, that way you can look at your quality of time and your practice time. You're like, all right, in 20 minutes, I'll get off the rig and check on my son or whatever. Yeah, brilliant. Brilliant, brilliant. That was the best one I've heard. Now, the way I use it is I'm a streamer, so that is home to my stream. When I'm streaming, everything happens up here, and I can monitor what you see, the chat, and make sure that the stream's healthy. That way I'm not just blindly streaming and you know, yes, are there alternatives? There's gonna be that guy in the comments. I'll tab and you can tab out to another window. You can do that, however, that breaks immersion, that breaks the immersion of being inside of a car. So I like having things on the top where if I want to watch the F1 practice, I've seen you do that. Yeah, yeah, I could you could put a practice race up there and actually do run laps. You're listening to the practice. Practice doesn't really need full attention. You just need to hear and know what's going on with the drivers and you know, to kind of see where they're at, you know, if if you catch it in time. So that's I would say monitors are fairly cheap for our hobby. You know, you can get a 27-inch monitor for 200 bucks, 150, and that's brand new.

Jeff: 49:39

You can go to used market, don't need 100 bucks 4K monitoring. Yeah, you don't need all that.

Jason: 49:44

You don't need no no, you don't need all that. This this is a state-of-the-art downstairs, but up here, this is a regular ass freaking monitor.

Jeff: 49:56

You know, you were telling me that when I was thinking about getting it, and we were talking about your like, and I was like, could you deal without it? And you were like, No. And I was like, that's bullshit. You could deal without it, and then you know, fast forward a couple months, and I, you know, I install one. Um they're incredibly helpful, and you they just make life a little easier, I guess is the best way to say it. And I've been using VR a lot, so I can't necessarily see my telemetry and data that you know, whatever you're using, a lovely pit wall or the Daniel Newman um equivalent.

Jason: 50:30

Race control.

Jeff: 50:31

There you go for the win. Race control.

Jason: 50:34

Don't kill me, Danny. Love you, buddy.

Jeff: 50:36

Love you, buddy.

Jason: 50:37

Um race control, free, free, by the way. The only one that's free. Go ahead, Jeff.

Jeff: 50:44

Yeah, so it's it's a very much nice to have, but once you have it, it's hard to think of life not having it.

Jason: 50:52

Exactly. Because the moment you think I'm not gonna need this, I'll just take this off. You're gonna have a time where you wish you had it. Same with DDUs. I went through this whole DDU fiasco and ended up spending more money because I had sold mine and then went right back into it. And I was like, I looked at the DDU and I treated it like a person, and I said, You will not be sold again. I'll put you away. But you will not be sold again. And another good thing, guys, another great, you know, for those that don't have kids, or even if you have kids, you can have the baby monitor, but if they're grown, the way I had this rig programmed is if anyone walks in front of any of my cameras, a video feed pops up there too. And I can see packages coming to the door. I can see people trying to ring the doorbell while I have a freaking Porsche screaming at the top of his lungs, and I didn't hear the damn doorbell, but I got a notification that I see, oh shit, there's something happening around the house. Let me go and check it out. That's another reason I have a monitor because if you have it down here, it's gonna block your view. It's it's messy, you know, because the window might shift and it might take control. It's it's a it just get the fourth monitor. If you if you haven't, if you're thinking about it, I would get it.

Jeff: 52:18

I think the easiest, probably the you know, in conclusion, if you will say that don't spend a shit ton of money on one. You can get into the fourth monitor for fairly cheap. Um, I know SimLab offers the mount. There, there's a bunch of other companies that do as well. Um, I'll I just know SimLab does. And I just want to say one last thing. You do need a spare display port or HDMI. So if you're running triples, just go back there and check to make sure you got a way to send a signal to it.

Jason: 52:47

Yes, correct. Make sure your card, video card, most of them do. Most of them have a triple display port and one HDMI. And that one HDMI is all you need. You don't need high graphics up there. You know, you don't have to run it at a crazy refresh rate either. You can run it at a nice, decent refresh rate that is good to your eyes because it is a static monitor, it's not gonna do much, you know. You can well, I wanted to show real quick since we're talking about it, and you know, I have plans of making a video about it, but here is the Daniel Newman's race control, and it's fully modular. So that means that all these elements on the screen can be moved around and customized, and it's all free.

Jeff: 53:38

What'd you say? You said some F-word free, free, get you some of that. Yeah, we'll have to do a you know a dedicated episode on that because it's legit, it's nice, it's clean, it looks good, has a shit ton of data.

Jason: 53:53

Um Daniel Newman is uh stepping it up lately, and I'm really proud of him. He's delivered uh he yeah, he's delivered an ecosystem that has made me change over to exclusively running DNR only. And I don't know, something fell downstairs, but we'll just uh keep going. I'm not sure what that was. Um we'll figure it out as soon as we get off of here. But, anyways, that's DNR, Danny Newman Racing. Check out the links uh in the description or in my um you know, my my my Linktree, which is like, you know, you know, I've told people that I have a Linktree and they automatically assume that I have an OnlyFans or something. That's stupid. I swear to God, bro. I swear to God.

Jeff: 54:40

But anyways, before we get too far, hey, let us know if you use your top, your fourth monitor for something not traditional, like like uh, you know, um telemetry and stuff. Let us know what you use it for. Love to hear uh, you know, the baby monitor thing that I never went a million years thought.

Jason: 54:57

The baby monitor is next level. So shout out to Brandon, and yeah, leave those in the comments or in an email if you don't feel like sharing it, everybody. Um, we're gonna read it anyway, unless you tell me not to. Then yeah.

Jeff: 55:12

So we won't. We'll read it, but we won't read it on air.

Jason: 55:14

There you go. So we do have a question, right? Before we wrap uh today's episode up, and it's from John Wyant. Hope I'm reading that right. So thank you so much. And it reads Hi, I recently found your podcast, and I was particularly interested in the large monitor show you put out a few months ago. I am interested in going this route, but I have a few questions. My current PC setup is an AMD 9800 X3D, good to go. 64 gigs of RAM. Jeff would be happy with that for DCS and an RTX 5090, which is godly, you know. You know, everybody getting 5090s, I mean, uh I'm gonna have to join the club here soon. Let's go. I know. So here, so we got four questions, and I'll start with the first one. Uh, what adapters or converters did you use to connect all three TVs to the GPU? So I guess this is aimed at me because I have TVs now. Um I used a display port to HDMI adapter. Um, specifically the one from Cable Matters is what I'm using. And be careful with that, because you lose a lot of stuff by connecting them that way. You lose um G-Sync, um, you lose, you know, a lot of the things that TV can do. The computer is just gonna read it as a generic monitor, but you have the GPU to force the power through. And as long as you can keep those frames up and steady, you don't you should not need any of those um VR or G Sync, you know, that's mostly uh how do you say compensate for low frame and then it makes it smooths it out? That's all it does, you know. I can go over a book on what VR is, but in essential, that's what it is. Number two is what monitor stand are you using? I'll let Jeff answer this when he uses the same one I do.

Jeff: 57:21

SimLab.

Jason: 57:23

SimLab, and we just told you about Sim Lab.

Jeff: 57:25

Yeah, it's quality stuff, they got great uh super adjustable VESA mounts. Uh it's just the various, right?

Jason: 57:33

The vario mounts that allow the various, yeah.

Jeff: 57:35

Excuse me. I don't know what I'm talking about.

Jason: 57:36

Thanks God for those things, bro. Because I cannot imagine fill finangling a TV or uh display that size, and just with a simple Allen wrench, you can make it go up, down, you know, back forwards.

Jeff: 57:52

Right, backwards, forwards.

Jason: 57:54

Yeah, it's by the centimeter, by the literally the centimeter.

Jeff: 57:58

So if you don't get it, you're just gonna wish you got it, and then eventually you're gonna get it, and you're gonna tell yourself you should have got it earlier. Just do yourself a favor.

Jason: 58:06

Just get the various, yes, highly recommend. Um, with the vario mounts, um, recommend the free stand because freestand is gonna uh prepare you for motion if you want to do that, and it's a lot more flexible, right? When something's connected to the rig, it's connected to the rig, bro. And you're kind of limited on what you want to do if you want the monitors closer, if you want them back, you know, there's a lot of cons to it. You save a little money, but you end up paying more later. Um, you know, it just limits it limits you heavily. So freestanding, highly recommend. Uh number three is any issues with mounting the TVs to the monitor stand? No. Um, monitor stands use a well, I did have to buy an adapter to get a Vesa 200 by 200, which SimLab sells, and they were like 20 bucks each, and that's all I did. I just bought an adapter, literally took this TV out of the box and screwed the adapter in, and they just went, they dropped right in. So no issues there.

Jeff: 59:20

What size are your are yours? And is that the the largest you can fit on that monitor? Those monitor mounts.

Jason: 59:26

That's a good question. So the the my size of monitor is or TV is 42 inches, and the maximum is 43. So at least with this model, it's 43. If you look at any other triple stand that supports those 65 or 70 inches, you're looking at a thousand dollars.

Jeff: 59:49

Yeah, huge step up in price for the next two. For the same shit.

Jason: 59:54

Because all it is is reinforced pro. You know, you can technically technically speaking. You could put 48 inches here and make them fit, but then you just need a support. You just need to get a profile and put add some support so that they don't fall. You know what I mean?

Jeff: 1:00:11

Guys, put some longer feet on it, if you can say those, the ones that are on the ball, that are on the ground going hor horizontal to the rig.

Jason: 1:00:18

I would extraction. An extra stanchion. Like, you know, you have the two feet like good that go like that, and then the arms come out this way. I would just add a stanchion, a vertical stanchion on the edge here and on the edge here to stabilize it. Yeah, 100%. So what I did with these is the weight is fine on these. But what I did was to stabilize it even further, I literally mounted my PC to the monitor stand in the center. So it literally has 40 pounds of weight in the center, keeping the the center load lean um leaning backwards. And the the TVs are mounted on the stand so that it adds weight to the you know forwards. So you kind of distribute the weight. The last questions do you have by chance have the link to the custom bezel kit you mentioned on the sourced uh that you sourced from Etsy. Yes, I will send you that, no problem. Uh, and that's it. Thank you again and look forward to listening, watching your other episodes. Happy Thanksgiving, John. So thank you, John. Happy Thanksgiving. I appreciate you. Um, and yeah, that's that's literally it, man. Uh just use what works for you. Um, not a single issue with my rig. I've had it for almost five years now, and I don't I don't see myself upgrading it ever, I don't think. Uh other than buying a new one if if I wanted to do what Jeff's doing and build a second rig, but I have no reason to do so. Um, you know, unless I get into the flight thing, but I don't know.

Jeff: 1:02:02

It's a killer rig you got there, buddy. Two minutes. Yeah, it's super nice.

Jason: 1:02:06

Thank you. You have a you have gods your setup too, man. Uh especially that PC.

Jeff: 1:02:12

We're getting there.

Jason: 1:02:13

You no, you got there. There's no getting nowhere. You got there, man.

Jeff: 1:02:18

It's a process, right?

Jason: 1:02:19

No, yeah, of course. I mean, you I respect it because you didn't buy this to flex, you buy this because you actually needed the hardware and you realized that you needed a little more oomph for some VR stuff, and that's justifiable.

Jeff: 1:02:37

I jumped in TCS and just cranked it up to ultra everything.

Jason: 1:02:41

You know, that's people that buy 5090s and 4090s and 5090s, and they play uh Fortnite on a single monitor at 350 frames per second. At 400 frames that the monitor can't display 400, but we're playing at 400. Yeah, so with screens, we'll take a picture and say 400 frames that you can't see, and the monitor's not there's free frames. I've said it. This is flowing frames.

Jeff: 1:03:06

You get some frames, you get some frames. Everybody gets some frames.

Jason: 1:03:09

So here we go with the it's anyways, it's frames from heaven. So yeah, I think that's it for this week, Jeff. If you got anything else, I mean that's nah, fam.

Jeff: 1:03:19

Just uh, you know, uh spend you got we got just went through.

Jason: 1:03:22

It's a short episode, right? Yeah, right.

Jeff: 1:03:24

Yeah, right. We just went through Thanksgiving. We got Christmas on the the horizon here, so make sure you spend time with the family, uh, get in the rig and uh drive fast and break late.

Jason: 1:03:33

Yeah, man, and push but chill. But chill say it. Push but chill. That is a new slogan. We even got some logos being made, but I'll sh I'll share about I'll share those in the next episode. Um, but yeah, stay tuned for more. And um guys, please like and subscribe if you like this content. If you're finding it, um I would really like our numbers to go up. If you're if you are on just an a vid audio listener only, on Spotify, whatever it is, or or Apple, you know, me um podcast apps, just do us a favor, like the video and subscribe. So, and with that guys, uh thank thanks again, Jeff, for making this happen uh at the last minute, and to all you viewers and listeners out there, have a great start of your week. Thank you.