Chasing Immersion: When Hardware Becomes Motivation, Not Just Money

A Porsche wheel shows up early, and everything changes. The moment we bolted on the VPG cup-style rim—with its lighter build, crisp stiffness, and tidy 70 mm adapter—the wheelbase came alive. More texture, more trust, and a real sense of what the car is doing made the first test laps feel like a new sim. With a 24-hour run at Monza on deck, we talk about how a lighter rim reshapes force feedback, why build quality matters, and what to expect when you push fresh gear straight into endurance duty.

From there, we put numbers to the dream many of you share: a no-compromise VR rig. We break down a Ryzen 9 9950X3D and RTX 5090 build, why AM5’s longevity matters, and how to think about bandwidth, USB-C, and M.2 lanes before you hit buy. We also get practical about storage for DCS and mod-heavy installs, the right way to connect VR headsets, and why onboard video is a silent performance killer. If you’re aiming at Pimax-level clarity or micro‑OLED headsets, this is the roadmap to high settings without the stutters.

Deals and timing matter, so we weigh iRacing’s Black Friday options—subscription savings versus long‑overdue content discounts—and compare Simucube’s steep SC2 sale against SC3’s early software hiccups. We touch on the ROG Ally vs Legion Go debate for couch laps and travel gaming, and we share where to stream GT racing across IMSA, WEC, and SRO so you can stay wired into the sport that fuels our rigs. The throughline is simple: buy once, cry once—but only after you’ve hit real limits. Budget with intent, flip idle gear, and let the upgrades serve immersion, not impulse.

Ride along for honest takes, clear math, and a few laughs about shipping delays, late‑night cart anxiety, and why “more power” isn’t a flex—it’s a path to better laps. If this helped, follow and subscribe, share with a friend who’s speccing a new PC, and drop a review with your best Black Friday find. What upgrade are you refusing to compromise on?

Chapters

• 0:00 Introduction
• 1:00 Announcements
• 24:08 Main Discussion
• 1:01:20 Closing Thoughts And Sign-Off

Transcript

Jason: 0:00

This episode is brought to you by Trophy AI, the ultimate performance coach tool for simracers. How are you doing, bud?

Jeff: 0:44

How's it going? I am doing fantastic. I am doing fantastic. How are you?

Jason: 0:49

SimRacing Gods finally rejoice. I am doing great. I have some news.

Jeff: 0:55

I feel like we need a drum ball here.

Jason: 0:58

Well, I mean, I've been the last episode, I was talking to all this snacks about podium one. And you know, they they were responsive, but as soon as we wrap that episode, and and this is this is just an example of how the Chicane podcast rolls, we don't edit out nothing. Unless the camera shut off or something like that. Yeah, we don't want you to see that now. But um, and some F bombs being dropped, which we might do a blooper one day. I've been thinking about that. Uh, I got a tracking number. So I get the tracking number from Podium One for the Porsche wheel. And I'm like, okay, I'm looking at the tracking number and it says November 10th. And I was like, gosh, November 10th, bro. November 10th? Yeah, November 10th. At the time of this filming, it's not even November 10th yet.

Jeff: 1:52

So it airs by November 10th.

Jason: 1:54

I was a little upset. I was like, man, come on, podium. You gonna are you shipping this, like literally shipping, like with a boat? Is this coming on to a freight? It's a tiny wheel. Or it's not tiny, but you know, tiny package compared to cars, vehicles, or things you use a boat for that you can't put on an airplane. Uh, I was surprised. Uh, woke up two days later, and it said that it landed in Honolulu. And right here, she is here.

Jeff: 2:26

Look at that sexy thing.

Jason: 2:28

Look at that. Let me see if I can get her to ooh. Oh, look at that. Look at that. She already got buttoned up. I put all the buttons on her. Um, and a nice carbon. Wow.

Jeff: 2:46

Great choice.

Jason: 2:47

This was Jeff's idea, first of all.

Jeff: 2:49

Great choice with the carbon. It looks fantastic. Looks like it's a factory.

Jason: 2:55

Yeah, it looks like it came like that.

Jeff: 2:57

Yep.

Jason: 2:58

Uh, the cool thing was that podium actually shipped the wheel with the adapter here. I don't know if you can see that. This this little adapter will make it into a uh 70 mil. So yeah. Shout out to Podium.

Jeff: 3:15

It's a pretty sweet little adapter. I mean, it looks pretty trick.

Jason: 3:18

Yeah, and it has their has their logo right there on the top. You see it? VPG.

Jeff: 3:24

Come on. That's pretty dope, man.

Jason: 3:26

Looks looks killed. Can't believe the camera actually picked that up.

Jeff: 3:29

Yeah.

Jason: 3:31

A little tiny. Yeah, it's a little detail, you know, nothing, nothing crazy in your face. First impressions. I mean, we already sat up, buddy. We had our first impressions. We we spoke to Manny. We were at the expo with Manny, but something that's mass production, right? Because I didn't get this for free. I purchased this with my own money. And we I actually purchased it before even before we even met Manny. So shout out to Manny for the wonderful job he did here. Uh, first impressions are you know, the wheel's light. So the first thing is kind of like um, and I know with this is like the announcement portion, I'll make it short and quick.

Jeff: 4:13

No, that's fine, buddy. This is I'm excited to hear it.

Jason: 4:16

Yeah, so I mean, obviously, I will have a full review um coming because I want to review this product. I want to show you guys all the ins and outs, but from the few hours that I've had with it, is the wheel's light. So the wheel's really light, but it's really strong. So the first thing I did was hook it up to the rig, mute everything, everything on the rig side, right? I don't want to hear sound, all I want to hear is the wheelbase and how the wheel's reacting to you know the forces. And I didn't turn down the forces. Because you know, the first thing I was thinking was, well, the wheel's lighter, I'm gonna have to turn down the forces. And that is not the case here. The case is that I'm feeling a lot more of the road with this wheel than I am with heavier wheels, so I'm becoming a fan, right? And you and I can attest to this. When we sat in that uh Driven Dynamics $100,000 plus rig, they had a four they had a Mustang wheel, which is a VPG wheel, and it's made kind of the similar construction, right? And weight. And it felt great, you know. I you know, it felt amazing at the at the expo, but it feels even better when I have it dialed to my settings, right? Which is a topic that we always say here, it's it's really hard to um watch a review and just buy off of that, right? We always recommend you to watch many. Um, you can watch my reviews, Michael's, you know, all kinds of people. But at the end of the day, when you get home and you hook this thing up and you install it, is when you really learn how to appreciate something. So far, I am in love with the wheel. There's some things, right? There's some things, of course, nothing's perfect, and I will be shooting and wrapping this up in the future, man. Very soon. Um, and also at the time of this recording, it already happened, and I pray that I had luck at this 24-hour Monza event that I'm going to put this wheel through hell in. It is a cup wheel, but it's very, very similar to the uh GT3R, it's basically the same shape. It's just that the the R has two extra dials on the bottom, was basically the only thing. The only difference. The GT3 has four. This the cup car has two on the top. Um, and it's really nice. The the badging is a real Porsche badge, and it is the updated badge for the new cup car, you know, and it's it's not even out yet. The cup car comes out next year. So simracers are driving with this thing before the new people are. I mean, they have the car out, but it's not like they're not using it yet, I don't believe. And probably somebody will grill me to death if if they are using it, but I'm pretty sure it's a 2026 car. But yeah, that's one thing that made my week that much better. And a huge belay my last slash apologies to podium one. You guys are awesome because guess what? They shipped to Hawaii for the cost of nothing, free shipping, and it got here in two days.

Jeff: 7:45

Um, I guess you're saying that there's a reason that they have the reputation that they have. They do. Honestly, we we don't get a nickel from them, so that's just they have a good reputation, and your interaction with them cemented that.

Jason: 7:59

Yeah, and not only that, um you know, along the way, we were um a good buddy of ours, right? David, remember David from the from the expo met us out there. He's also a driver for the team. Uh, he ordered one as well. And there was people commenting in the in the VPG Discord, and podium one reps were responding in there. And that's when I was like, okay, these guys are doing literally the best that they can. And it's but you know how it is when you start.

Jeff: 8:30

I mean, they're like scraping the internet, following their customers to see you know what they're saying. I mean, that's that's what you hope companies are doing, right? Hey, we're gonna follow up, see what our customers. I mean, that's that's like next level customer service, yeah.

Jason: 8:46

And then on the other end, distant end was just as good. Like uh Manny from BPG Sim with the owner, which is an awesome dude, uh had wonderful conversations with with Manny. Manny was reassuring on top of that, like, yes, this is the status, guys. We you know, it they got held up at customs, you know. So, I mean, that's not really anyone's fault. It could have had it could have been any product, you know. And with a recent plane crash from Lewisville, which was a UPS plane that was flying to Hawaii.

Jeff: 9:23

Yeah, thoughts and prayers to everybody affected by this.

Jason: 9:27

That was uh wow, you know, that I guess the traffic coming over here is demanding, you know, and with the government shut down right now, because I I mean I don't like politics on the show, but if you work for the government, um I just just hang tight, man. I hope we can resolve this, you know, sooner than later. Uh a lot of people getting affected by it. And we're we're sim racers, this is a hobby, but the hobby needs money, right? If you any hobby needs money, and if you don't, if you're not getting the bare necessities, there's no time for a hobby no more. You know what I mean? So yeah, my thoughts and prayers.

Jeff: 10:08

Yeah, or if you can use you know the hobby to kind of get a couple minutes of uh de stress, let your mind get off the fact of you know what's going on in the world. So jump in there, a couple laps, couple races, a couple minutes of uh I mean I do that on the let your mind get somewhere else, yeah.

Jason: 10:26

We all have our things, man, and nothing is all nice and pretty, and all of this stuff behind me and all of the stuff behind Jeff's room is all materialistic. All that stuff, it it's nice and shiny one day, and then another day is all rusted and busted. You know what I mean? Don't forget about your loved ones and the people that are around you that that support you, and um, you know, I don't want to get emotional, you know. I've already had a few drinks now. So cheers, Bill.

Jeff: 10:56

I know you got something going on over there.

Jason: 10:58

So we got things going on, uh, but we're trucking along, you know. Uh holiday season coming. And I believe, yeah, I believe you.

Jeff: 11:06

Yeah, go ahead. This was gonna be a perfect transition.

Jason: 11:08

Yeah, I wanna I want to let you have the the first one that you put on there because Jeff has been doing some research, man.

Jeff: 11:15

He's been don't forget about your loved ones here. And uh, you know, we're coming into uh uh mid-November, and we got Thanksgiving, uh Black Friday. Uh Black Friday is a very popular time for uh simracers. And uh we got a couple special Black Friday deals that have already dropped. Uh iracing at the time of recording has released uh their 50% off for new customers, 25% off if you want to re-up, and you can re-up now, and it will, I think it added a year from whenever you were previously going to expire. Um uh so here's an interesting statement, Jason. Would you rather that or a deal on content when it comes to iRacing? Or would you rather 20% off content or 25% off content for a week around Black Friday? Um because I I know a lot of people on iRacing's Facebook post when they did when they posted this that everybody was like, hey, that's great, but we'd rather content.

Jason: 12:24

Well, I think that's very personal, right? Because if you've been in the service for years like us, then the subscription is is good is always good, but you know, I I don't know that's a tough one, man. That's very it depends. If I'm a new iRacer and I picked up the biggest discount last year, then I think that yeah, I think that accounts that are just a year old can get that discount. That's what I would do.

Jeff: 12:56

I mean, uh tracks, I mean, I think I have the cars that I want, but I feel like every week, every other weekend or so, every other week I jump in there and I'm like, man, I only have like two tracks that the the the the officials that I want to race have, you know, and I'm always like, all right, I'll buy one. You know, it would be great if they did a content and I, you know, like you could kind of buy a couple and get save a couple bucks on on top of the for like you know, the discount once you own like 20% of all their shit, they give you the discount.

Jason: 13:27

Which which which you're part of the 40 club now, and welcome.

Jeff: 13:30

It's one of those that you're not proud of.

Jason: 13:33

You're kind of proud of, but you don't want nobody, but you don't want nobody to know. Right. That's the thing.

Jeff: 13:38

You're like, yes, it's it's that's how you're internal.

Jason: 13:40

Like, yeah, I got that discount. Like, I'll buy it.

Jeff: 13:42

I get the discount, but then you're like, oh my god, I have this discount.

Jason: 13:45

That means that I spent money. I think that I agree, I agree with tracks that are at least a year old, discount them. The new stuff that's coming out right now, at least you know that's fair. Because they do have these things called legacy, but just don't bother with those because if it's a legacy, that means they're not using it in the season and you won't race it anyway.

Jeff: 14:11

I don't even update the stuff that says legacy. No, don't you?

Jason: 14:14

Unless you really, really want to go and race an older version of a track, and I don't know. That's very subjective. I think that um, how about this? I think that in my personal opinion, if you buy the highest tier, we'll give you an extra 15% uh for the next month or for the next week. So that way they can lock you into getting more money. But then if let's say you like it in a week uh or you already tried it before you had an account and you're coming back, then you're like, Yeah, I'm gonna get the discount, and I need like six or seven tracks because the boys are racing this on X League or whatever, sure. And and then you can get a discount that way. But um, yeah, iRacing is very firm with this stuff because and usually when companies are firm, it's because things are good, you know. That's what I that's what I believe.

Jeff: 15:10

They got a corner of the market, right?

Jason: 15:12

Yeah, yeah, they do, and they know, you know what, it's exciting because I think we're in month two. Um, and one more month we'll be looking at another development update and another new car and another new track. And I can't wait, which is more money. So let's go. Yeah, this hobby, this hobby, there's no it's no secret, it costs money. It's uh, it's a it's a it's it's a hell of a gouge. And we're gonna go over that gouge here in a second, um, very soon.

Jeff: 15:44

But yeah, um, just real quick before we as we wrap up here announcements is uh CineCube did come out with their Black Friday. I think it was Jason, help me out here 15 for the the SE2 and 10 for the SC3. My act, I think give her give or take a little bit each way.

Jason: 16:03

Um I mean we'll just take a look, guys. Just go ahead and take a look because it is planned here to do a full-blown Black Friday sale. I think Jeff's gonna look that up. And while he does that, there's also one more early uh Black Friday deal that's going on, and it's with Bavarian Symtec. Uh, and they are doing no tariffs, no import duties for Black Friday. So, I mean, that's it, you know, with the current situation the way it is, everybody else is charging duties and and and tariffs. So take advantage while you can if you were looking to buy one of those. I don't have an affiliate, but I'm pretty sure Michael from the Sim Racing does. Um check out uh Michael, uh excuse me, check out the SimracingThen.com and he's got an affiliate and discounts. I gotta hook him up because we don't have one. And if that fails, then the fail safe is when you add it to your cart, just put boosted in the uh in in in the promo code. And usually that guy has a freaking yeah, he's got promos. But I mean, hey, support support track ghost when when when we do have them, please support them, support us, support, you know, the the main channel. Um yeah, but if you if you really wanted to get you need it, if you need it right away and you don't have any other option, boost it. That's that's uh give it to somebody, yeah.

Jeff: 17:43

So I am on the simicube site, and they're saying 25% off uh the simicube 2 pro, 30% off the sport. That's not an insignificant amount of money.

Jason: 17:55

No, it isn't.

Jeff: 17:56

Here's the rub, uh gentlemen, and if we have any ladies that listen to us, uh that is for 200 units only. Now, whether that's true or not, I don't know. And they just put that up there to kind of trickle it out in front of you to get you to be like, oh shit, I don't want to lose out on the deal.

Jason: 18:11

Bro, it's like those channels, remember? Like, call now. You have to call now because you if you don't call right now, the freak you'll never get this discount again, and this shit is on a rerun. And you call up, and sure enough, I'm like, yeah, we could do a discount. I, you know, all I'm saying is, you know, and that's a good thing that you mentioned, Jeff, about the semiconductor, because there's not really the best press out there about the three. I heard, we know, I didn't just hear, but we know that it got pushed back and some software is not working correctly, which is very normal for a new product, you know. Very, very common for a product when when they're new is to show, you know, it's not nothing's perfect out the box. So, especially with the new tech that they're using, we'll keep you posted. But if you know, in today's market, there's nothing wrong with a simicube too. And right now, I have no plans to upgrade to a three, you know. Right now, I'm just hanging on right now. Um, if Cimicube wants to send one over, I will gladly check it out and review it. Um, but right now I don't see a need to take that step forward unless, unless you have no wheelbase, right? You have no wheelbase and you're looking into the semiconductor, then I would tell you go buy a semicon three, take the plunge, you know, take the L now.

Jeff: 19:49

I don't know, dude. I I mean, go when I move in, I might need to put like a block on the firewall from simicube.com for the next 30 days.

Jason: 19:59

Oh, because you're thinking about it.

Jeff: 20:00

Yeah, I it's a I it was it blew me away. I don't say blew me away.

Jason: 20:06

Um But you see, I don't I don't understand. Like you've been over to the house, you've been over to my house, bro.

Jeff: 20:12

I mean, bro, you get in front of the 40 something inch, 50 inch monitors, the active pedal, you know, it it it's a lot to take in. But when you get to spend all weekend, you know, jumping from rig to rig to rig, you're like, oh, like they're all saving detail. Yeah, they're all yeah. I've been trying to tell you, man. I've been trying to do that. I know you have. I know you have. I'm slowly starting to listen slowly.

Jason: 20:35

I know I try I try to I try to save people from I try to tell people to spend more so that they can save more, but that's not easy.

Jeff: 20:43

It's hard, it's an initial spend more to save more save mortal eight or which is it, it's a it's a hard fact to understand when you're in the moment.

Jason: 20:52

Yeah, but it's okay. It's okay because I'm happy that you became a sim racer and you're still here, and you're actually part of a podcast now talking about sim racing and doing research about sim racing. You know, that you came a long way. It's kind of you know, it's it's a little it's crazy how things evolved here, but let's let's let's continue on with the show here. I don't want to get emotional, that's another emotional topic. One more news announcement is I sort of picked up on a ROG Xbox ally, and and that's how come. Sort of, yeah. I was I've been right now. I'm installing some custom OS on there, and I'll keep you guys up to date on what I plan to do with the thing. But so far, overall impressions, if you guys were thinking about a ROG, go get it. It's freaking it's freaking awesome. Go get it. And I came from this guy. This is my old handheld console, which you can see.

Jeff: 21:58

That's the Legion Go.

Jason: 21:59

This is the Legion Go one, and I was gonna get the Legion Go two, but they want $1,400, bro. $1,400.

Jeff: 22:09

That's a quality desktop PC.

Jason: 22:13

That's a PC. I was like, wait a minute, you guys slouch PC. I don't know what kind of drugs Lenovo is on. I really don't. I I don't know what kind of drugs they're on, but they're on some some heavy ass drugs for real. I mean, I can I understand what it can do, and I understand that it's a no-led display, but it's still a handheld display. You know, it it's a second, it's a secondary. It's kind of like you use it when you travel, you use it when you're on the couch. When you have, you know, I I use this for bathroom breaks. I wash it thoroughly. I start thoroughly sterilized, okay? Thoroughly sterilized.

Jeff: 22:48

But I my problem with it, what I got one, I got the and this is we have no plans to talk about the Legion Go on this on today's podcast, but here we are. Uh when I got it from for our trip for my trip, and unless it's plugged in, it's just kind of a slouch, in my opinion.

Jason: 23:03

Oh, it will drain the shit out of the bed.

Jeff: 23:05

Yeah, yeah, it's gotta be plugged in.

Jason: 23:07

So did you return it though?

Jeff: 23:09

It's on Facebook Marketplace, or it will be momentarily.

Jason: 23:12

Why don't you just return it? When we get into the next topic, you got a 30-day return window. No questions asked. Has it been over 30 days?

Jeff: 23:19

I bought it secondhand.

Jason: 23:20

Okay, okay, okay. Well, guys, we have a Legion go for sale. We might have to do it for sale.

Jeff: 23:25

I'll make you a killer deal on it.

Jason: 23:26

We'll make you a deal of Chicane Podcast deal. We'll throw in some stickers in there.

Jeff: 23:31

Put in the Shakane podcast. We'll tat it up. We'll be ready to go.

Jason: 23:35

No, it's a great console. It it really is. It depends on what kind of game. Like if you're playing, I'm assuming you were playing F1 and it runs. And it runs, it runs them really good, you know. But yeah, you need to be it needs to be plugged in. Now the Legion Go has an 80 watt hour battery. This has a 40 watt, so you can get four hours, three and a half hours on the lead on the new ROG. So, anyways, that's kind of it for announcements. Again, 24-hour race happened already, so I can't tell you to go join. Um, maybe watch the replay if you haven't.

Jeff: 24:14

There you go.

Jason: 24:15

I don't know if we crashed or not, but the likes of it is very high. It's Monza. It's Monza, bro. I can't believe we're about to do Monza.

Jeff: 24:24

I know it's like high speed corner, high speed. It's only a minute and four. High speed, 90-degree turn.

Jason: 24:30

Yeah. And we're gonna over and over and over and over. Oh god.

Jeff: 24:36

That active pedal is gonna get a workout this weekend.

Jason: 24:39

Yes, and this Porsche wheel is gonna be driven to hell. So we're gonna see giddy up. Giddy up. So today, um, I have a little special kind of thing.

Jeff: 24:52

What you got today, buddy?

Jason: 24:54

That we kind of just came up with, and it's been recent events. The same way this podcast was inspired. Jeff does not let up. He texted me every single day. What do you think of this? What do you think of that? What do you think? And he's looking at PCs again. He's looking at PCs, and I'm he's talking, he's talking big boy money now. He's talking, he's he's he's stepping up.

Jeff: 25:18

I've been saving some pennies. I've been saving some pennies.

Jason: 25:21

So Jeff wants to buy a rig, and I already know why he wants to build a more powerful rig than what he has now because he's planning on going full VR. Is that a true statement? You I with no compromise.

Jeff: 25:41

Yeah, it it's it would be a full, it would be a full up. I don't think I have raced or flown on monitors month and a half. Um I'm honest with you, right? Um I don't know why. It just is I I in it it does it for me. Um and at this point I feel like I have maxed out the quest three. Um and I'm just trying, I I'd like to have a no compromised. I've been you know putting saving some money every month, you know, selling a bunch of shit I don't use. Yeah, um and get a really nice.

Jason: 26:26

But I can respect that. I can I can honestly uh from the bottom of my heart, I can respect that. Because if you tell me you maxed out the quest three, you know, that is if you're trying to build, if you're trying to max, if you're maxing out the quest three, let me put this this way, that means you're ready for a next level uh power, you know, next level power. If you maxing out that and you're looking for the next big boy, uh, you know, right after that, then we're gonna need some horsepower. Um and Jeff, I mean, I I'm just happy that Jason, you know, I'm happy that you you get it, you know, you understand why you need this power now. You know what I mean? You you fully understand now.

Jeff: 27:15

Yeah, and just to kind of explain to our listeners what I mean by maxed out, so iRacing is super optimized for VR. It works very good. Um, but I've been racing a lot with the um uh the cars that we were just talking about last episode with the the pack that they released.

Jason: 27:32

Oh, content manager, the yeah, the content manager, right?

Jeff: 27:34

So it's not as optimized. It's it's it's gonna tax your PC to push shit through you know into VR. Um and also I've been doing a lot of flying and DCS, and the quest is good. Uh it's incredible for the price you're paying. Um, but I can't see the cockpit or the words that are on the cockpit, especially when on my you know, multifunctional unless I have to put my face into it. Um I just can't get the resolution with what my PC is willing to you know push to it. Um I'm just that's what I mean. And I've messed with all the settings to try to build, try to do something with you know, give me a high enough resolution, lower the you know, the the refresher rate. I'm just kind of there. Like and Jason, you gave me a great advice when I was buying the PC that I got, and it had it was fantastic, it has been fantastic, it's still fantastic. I didn't think I was gonna be into or as passionate about sim racing, and well now I'm you know, I fly uh I'm 80% racing, 20% flying, but I didn't know I was gonna be doing it this much or as passionate about it. So I feel like it's justified jumping into the deep end here.

Jason: 28:47

No, it is, it is. I think that there's a certain threshold with how much can you really spend blindfolded versus that's a great great point, right? Versus hey, I'm using this and I'm finding limits. Because and and and that's that's the thing with this hobby, is or or hobbies in general. When you find limits, then you start looking for what can I do to increase the performance, right? And the first thing you mentioned to me was, well, I can upgrade my RAM. I want to upgrade my RAM, I want to upgrade my storage. And I was alright, all right, that's already times two plus a video card, you know. So, you know, PCs have a great resale value these days. That's not usually what it was in the past, but now the PC gamer, because yes, we drive simulators, but we are gamers. That is the that's the truth. The truth of it is you're buying gaming hardware to play simulators, but it's still it starts with the word game with it. So it does, you know, somebody will buy your PC. And they'll play Fortnite on it or Modern War or Battlefield 6, which I love playing some Battlefield, bro. But I'm stressed out and I want to shoot some people in Battlefield 6, bro, with a sniper rifle.

Jeff: 30:13

I'm on there.

Jason: 30:14

I need to get you a don't make me show you that, bro, because that's a that's a sinkhole, bro. That is you will drown. You'll be like, what? I wasn't a Call of Duty guy for a while. No, this thing got helicopters, it's got jets. It's dope. Um, it's got tanks. Anyway, want to have a live coach available on demand? With Trophy AI, you'll be able to practice with Mantle AI at your convenience. A real-time coach in your headphones to navigate and guide you through the track, helping you achieve race base. This tool is awesome as it provides full brake, throttle, and steering telemetry on screen with a live review getting you ready for your next big race. Check links to Trophy AI in the description and also use Chicane12 in all caps for a 12% discount. Well, what we're gonna do today is I I guess Jeff had some ideas, suggestions, or uh he had shared with me a build. And I don't know if you have the link to that ready, Jeff, if you can get it that. I do have it. Uh, the one from uh what was it, Micro Center. And we're just gonna go through the specs and I'm gonna give you my thoughts on this.

Jeff: 31:32

All right.

Jason: 31:33

Let's I will share and I'm gonna show you guys a simple way of looking at a spec sheet and giving you a broad idea. Is this a good build for the price?

Jeff: 31:45

You know, Jason, this is the one I sent you just the other day.

Jason: 31:48

Okay, let's take a look.

Jeff: 31:50

Coming right up.

Jason: 31:53

And we're not trying to make them spend. I am not. I'm just here to buy.

Jeff: 31:58

No, uh, and this is a two dump trucks fulls full of cash for a computer, but okay, so you get what you pay for in this world. So go ahead and we'll start here.

Jason: 32:09

So AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D. I have a 9800 X3D. Um, six months ago, the 9800 X3D was the fastest, the most powerful uh CPU you can buy for anything for gaming, especially sim racing, especially iRacing, because of that 3D at the end. That 3D at the end means that it has an extra core specifically meant for for gaming. You know, if you buy if you look at a video car today, you have two options. You have Intel, you have AMD. Intel used to be the big dog back in the early 2000s, right? With their i7 and whatever it whatever it is that they had, um, or i5. Nowadays, AMD is kind of taking over, and these chips get run hard, they can run hot and they don't die. They don't, they don't give up, you know. To make one of these things throttle, good luck. You it just won't happen. So the 9950X, right, is easily a $500 processor. Okay, so now the next thing above below that is an MSI Mag 870E Tomahawk, which is exactly the same motherboard that I have in my PC. And the reason why I went with that motherboard and I recommend it is it's not because it has 16 ports, it could have had five or six ports. It's because of the bandwidth, the total bandwidth of those ports, right? It had I I tell you by memory, it has two USB C 40 gig ports, 40 gigs, two of them. Then it has like five 3.0 ports, and then has three 4.0 ports, uh, 3.2, I believe, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, 3.2. And that right there is a crap ton of bandwidth. And what does that mean when I say bandwidth? It means that if I plug in an extension on that, it'll be able to handle all that data being processed through one port, you know, you know, versus plugging it into a 1.0 port or a 2.0 port. And none of those lanes are shared, so data lanes aren't shared. It has four SSD slots, and two of them don't share lanes. And what does that mean? That means that when you if you install two SSDs in, you'll get max speeds out of them. If you install a third one, then you gotta choose. You can downgrade your USB-C speed to give the SSD more speed, or you can tell the the motherboard to say no, leave the two ports at high speed and just downgrade that as that third SSD speed, which in this day and age, I don't know who is using more than two SSDs. I've always recommended two. I always I always recommend one for the OS and one for your games.

Jeff: 35:25

And Jason, this is kind of what a what's I mean, you know where I'm going with this, but uh, this is what's kind of drive me to the new another PC is you know, I DCS is like huge, huge, like hundred, hundred gigs of uh of of data files for one map. Um, you know, so I ran out of space on my you know one terabyte that I have in the PC behind me. So I was like, oh, I need another you know hard drive in there, and then I'm you know, I'm sharing with you know all the you know this other you know ports, and it was like you know, not ideal. Um it started made that's when it was like, and then you know, DCS says, hey, you should be really running 64 gigs of RAM. It's like okay, let me look to see how much RAM is, and it just is like, dang, like I'm gonna drop this money to upgrade my PC, and then you start looking otherwise, Jason. Back to you. This is what kind of led me to leading to looking at a new PC.

Jason: 36:21

Yeah, so I mean, can you upgrade your current build? Yes, you can. Yes, you can. The thing is if we're aiming for using a Pimax or using a big screen beyond at full max settings, then you're gonna need a processor. So I already I'm already summing up the cost here between the processor and that motherboard, that's eight hundred dollars just for those two. Then he added 64 gigs of RAM of DDR5 at 6,000. Um, I wish they would tell me which one, but uh let me see if I can drop down here and I don't know if it says here and say it there?

Jeff: 37:08

No.

Jason: 37:12

No worries. We'll anyways. Wait, wait, go. But easily go go go down to the specs real quick. Just right here. Does it say uh model memory?

Jeff: 37:26

No, it doesn't say CPU okay.

Jason: 37:30

Scroll up.

Jeff: 37:31

But it's easily we're looking at 250.

Jason: 37:35

Just about more than that, actually.

Jeff: 37:38

At a minimum.

Jason: 37:38

Yeah. So now we're looking at a thousand dollars, right? An NVIDIA gforce RTX 5090. There's nothing that is the top doll, there's nothing better than this card right now, and that is 2500. So now we're looking at $3,500, and then things start to come down from that from that high, right? So you look at the uh Samsung 2TB, which I'm assuming is a 990 Pro. I hope it is. That those two terabytes go for about 150, and then this LAN Wi-Fi, that's just part of the motherboard and Windows. All right, so I mean, this is just an example build on how to decipher prices. Can you get it cheaper? Yes, in a in a sense, right? The thing is, who out there is carrying a 5090? Who out there is carrying a 9950X, and who out there is building it for you? That's that's where the little price bump comes in. Now, if it was it was that if it was at regular price, then I would uh I would assume. Um and I was just thinking about this. Jeff, you better get on this, bro, before somebody, one of our listeners watches this. So that's a fair point. I got to buy now.

Jeff: 39:04

So I know I had to like hide where it was. Um and I I did a lot of research on places that had, you know, I'm getting smarter on you know, PCs and stuff, and you know, my this is what my life's come to as you know, an older dude is watching people put badass PC builds together on YouTube. I'm not there yet, so whether I'm gonna buy components myself and do a build. So like the pre- the pre-built stuff or pick pick them out and somebody else puts it together is my game. I did a lot of research, and there's nothing that's touching this price within $500, you know, for a $50.90 and the the motherboard with that motherboard, it's not even remotely close to you know to to that price.

Jason: 39:50

So um the motherboard processor, bro, and the card is basically three thousand dollars or more. It's actually more than that, it's like $3,500 just with those three components.

Jeff: 40:03

So um, I mean, this is don't have to worry about any hardware problems forever. I say forever.

Jason: 40:11

This is a while, you know. Hopefully. I mean, uh, PC parts are built really good these days, but um, you know, nothing's perfect. But I'll tell you what, I can vouch for everything that you're buying here. Uh AM5 is still the platform, and AMD came out and said that they will support the AM5 platform through 2027. So it is not unwise to buy a PC nowadays. You know, if we're reaching the life, you know, the end of the AM5 life, which is AM5 is basically the slot where your chip goes. And that's what happened to me. I was forced into getting AM5 because my old build was an AM4, and that means that anything above a 7,000 was not happening, even if you bought it, it just wasn't compatible. So, um, at this price range, you know, you can get a decent chunk of change for your current setup, so you won't be paying what we're seeing here. You know what I mean? I would say somewhere along the lines of half of what this number says.

Jeff: 41:26

Yeah, I think that's probably fairly close. Um, and you know, I did buy a hard drive to throw, you know, in my builds that I have here that I haven't installed yet. So I mean, I'll take this and throw it in, you know, the new one.

Jason: 41:40

And yeah, you can keep this four TVs. Yeah, you can keep this uh 2TB, leave it as a system main, and then have all your games on that 990 Pro. It'll even off the load. And if something happens to Windows where you need to reinstall, all your games are in a second drive. You know, it's it's a beautiful thing. It's a beautiful thing. I've always told people avoid getting the big one for a terabyte and get two two terabytes, or or if you know, depending on your budget, or or two one terabytes, you know, because again, it nothing's perfect and windows sometimes craps out. And the last thing you want is not having a place where you can back it up. I mean, you can always you can always buy one of these. I have these laying around everywhere, these little Samsung drives. But again, this is an SSD. And if you didn't know, SSD don't have mobile parts. And when SSDs stay unplugged for some time, they tend to lose data. Wow, that's another conversation, but something that's hardwired. Yeah, go ahead.

Jeff: 42:55

I got a question for you here since we're talking about this stuff. So a lot of problems when you're running all these monitors is you run out of um display ports for so right now I have obviously force monitors. I think my top one is hooked up to an HDMI, so I do have maybe one eight one uh display port open. Um you don't, you have no display port open.

Jason: 43:21

You have you're using all three, and then you're using that HDMI on the top.

Jeff: 43:27

Yeah, I guess that's true. So my I guess it it it's still my still question is valid is you want to plug if you get the PyMAX has a display port input. Do you want to plug that into the graphics card, or does it matter putting it into the no you want it inside the graphics card because because if you use onboard, you're not using a 5090 no more to power that graphics card.

Jason: 43:52

Okay, you and never ever ever ever ever use the onboard graphics. Why, why? I I I know somebody, the top shata being called out on the shade podcast, has all sorts of problems with his PC, and I've been I've been been a I've been a tech for him, just low-key, and he's gonna have a crack when he sees this. But I told him, dude, why are you using onboard memory, uh, onboard video graphics when you shouldn't? It it's not efficient, you know, it's just not good. It's extra load on the machine for no reason, you know. Put all the load onto your video card, it can handle it. It's uh it's a modern graphics card. I wish we had more ports, man. I wish we had three of each, you know, because if I can get three HDMIs, then I can use VSync and VR and all those beautiful things. But these monitors right now, they're running out of pure power. And I haven't had an issue because I have a 4090. You're shopping for a 5090 that has 32 gigs of video RAM. That is a massive thing, bro. Your 5090 is gonna run circles around my card, and it's gonna do that for years. You know what I mean? It's gonna be good. That is it's overpowered already for what it is. You know what I mean? So having something overpowered at a decent price, I mean, the card retail is two grand on the street. It sometimes is two 25 and three grand. So when it first came out, there were like three or four grand.

Jeff: 45:38

Um, I think you're hard hard pressed finding them for anything remotely close to like 26.

Jason: 45:43

So a lot of people thought I was crazy, right? Like, why would you spend so much money on a video card? If I was to sell my video card today, used, I can get like three thousand dollars for it.

Jeff: 45:55

Yeah, more than you bought it for.

Jason: 45:57

Because it's a founders edition.

Jeff: 45:59

That's why that's okay.

Jason: 46:00

That's what I want to know. I want to I want to double check to make sure that if bro, that's what I told you. Remember, I was like, if it's a founders, bro. If this is a founders, you need to drop everything and just take the take the licking now. It'll heal. Licking beatings heal, bro, but you'll laugh later. It's like, yo, yeah, I got a 5090. The 6090 comes out. The the way things are going, bro. 6090 when it comes out, it's gonna be massively, massive overpriced. It's gonna be the same cycle. Six thousand dollars. Yeah. And people will do anything for 4090 or 5090 in that case, and you'll end up in the market. You know, I thought about putting up mine for sale and just copying one from StockX. I found the two of I have it in my cart ready to buy. Um, I'm gonna see. I'm gonna put mine up for sale. And if you notice that I miss a live stream one week, you know what's going down. And I made, you know, you basically make a profit. So that's a tip out there for you guys. Um, you know, um it's kind of like investing. You invest in your own hobby, I guess. So PC building is good for you. It's good for it, and what if you start what if you want to start streaming, bro? You got a 50-90. You you'll be good to go. You'll be able to stream your flights, racing, whatever it is you want to do. You have you have a microphone attached up there, you're good to go, bro. All you need is a camera. Uh, and I got an extra camera, just let me know. You have it.

Jeff: 47:41

I got one floating around here. I got the some Elgato running around.

Jason: 47:44

There you go. You got the Elgato. I got another one of those.

Jeff: 47:47

So I got two of them. Because I just have so much free time. So that's my lip, that's my biggest problem is time.

Jason: 47:55

Oh, you got some free time coming your way.

Jeff: 47:57

I do, you're right.

Jason: 47:58

You're absolutely which is dangerous, bro, because that's when that's when you go on when you should be sleeping. The root of all evil. And all you see in Jeff's bedroom is a tiny little light from his phone. Like, and it's white.

Jeff: 48:15

N DXT. Yeah.

Jason: 48:18

And the cart. And then you sleep on it, and you're like, shit, should I do this?

Jeff: 48:22

Yeah, I mean, dude, I've done a couple more of these, and and I'll be, you know, swiping that card.

Jason: 48:29

You be laying it on, uh laying it on thick, bro. I've done some crazy shit and just straight up, I got the phone like this. I'm gonna pretend like this is my phone. And I got the button, I got my finger on the button, and I use my other hand, and I just go like that to it. And I'm like, I didn't do it.

Jeff: 48:47

I didn't do it. I swear to god, I do that all the time. What's the line we do? They gave it to me. They gave it to me, bro. They gave it to me, they gave it to me.

Jason: 48:58

But I mean, so not really a PC guide, but more of how to read these deals, right? And Black Friday's coming up, so it's a good time. I I think Micro Center, uh that's almost at cost PC right there, like MSRP. It's really hard to beat that. I don't know how, I don't know, I don't know who they're talking to, who they're friends with, but that's gonna cover our little section today for helping Jeff out. And um, I just wanted to include you guys on the show to use so you could see how our conversations happen off camera. I think it's kind of cool. And a lot of you people go through the same thing. A lot of listeners on the stream, I get this question all the time is should I get this graphics card? Should I get that graphics card? And I'm like, get the best graphics card that you can afford, you know, get the best one that you can afford. And if you can't afford it today, people need to understand that if you can't afford something today, it's not gonna go anywhere, it's not gonna sell out. And this hobby, people need to just hold on, you know what I mean? People need to save a little, be patient, and then you can buy the stuff. You know, I had a question, it's funny. I had a question the other day. He was like, What's your most favorite part of the what's your favorite gear on the rig? And you know, the bell tensioner is awesome, and every we love it, we both love it, but it isn't my favorite. My favorite is the active pedal. And then I said I mentioned, yes, the active pedal, the active pedal. And this guy said, Well, mention something that's attainable. And I'm like, everything is attainable, you just have to be, you just have to budget for it. If, you know, we're not made out of money, dude. You know what I'm saying?

Jeff: 50:50

You know, and there's yeah, to your point, Jason, like the conversations you and I have had about PCs and me upgrading has this isn't something that happened yesterday. We've been having this conversation for you know some some some time now. Yeah, you know, and you were like, hey, because I was looking at the 5070, 5080, 5080s, you know, and we had some discussions, and I was like, ah, you're right. Like, I'd hate to buy the Pimax super one of them, and then be like, every time I put it on, I'd be like, I just waited and you know, saved a little bit longer and got the better, what would it look like? You know, you know, and if you compare apples to apples, it's yeah, not everybody's a case is like that, right? Everybody, everybody's case is correct is different. Um, but for me, I was like, okay, fair. You know, I can wait a little bit. You know, November's coming with blacks, maybe you know, maybe I can catch some sales. Um time it worked out for me, I guess. You know, so yeah, but yeah, I acknowledge that everybody's not in the same situation.

Jason: 51:50

No, and honestly, most of us aren't. I mean, to drop four grand on a PC today, uh one go, one shot, is a lot of money. You know, it's the same argument with motion. People want motion and they say they can't afford motion. I think that if you really want something, I don't care if it takes you two years, bro, because guess what? In two years, there'll be something significantly better at around the same price anyway. You know what I mean? Nothing says that you have to run out and buy this thing right now because if you don't, it's it's gonna be the end of the world. If you saved up in two years' time and you have the cash and you have the money, I I can promise you there's something a hundred times, or not a hundred times, but like three or four times better.

Jeff: 52:39

Get your point, yeah.

Jason: 52:40

Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like, for example, let's say you started saving up, you know, for a Semicube 2 Pro and you saved up for two years, and you finally have that 1300 and something, whatever it's called, 1400. The three just got announced, and you already have 1400. So now you're closer to getting the three vice getting the two. You know what I'm trying to say? It's just people need to understand that things don't need to be at the moment, right this moment. You know what I mean? Um, especially for those that have a rig like you. You have a PC, your PC works. You can race on it, you can fly on it. This is more about doing more, right? And and seeking more immersion. But do you do you honestly, is it gonna stop you from flying today? No, it won't. You know what I mean? And that's that's I'll probably get in there.

Jeff: 53:32

I got the you know, my stick and the stick, so to speak, uh installed now and the wheels off. So I'll probably jump in there tonight and fly a sword or two.

Jason: 53:41

Right. And there you go. You know, you're still it's it's not stopping you from the only time I tell you guys, hey, jump on this deal, is to get you to to race or to get you into the hobby, to get you started, which is why we always cover uh budget gear. But once you reach a certain point where you're looking for more, then that's when we have to, then that's when we have conversations such as this, and we take a look and see what's out there, and we look at well, what's the support, what's the life, what is the future, what's the future holding, you know, and I think it's I'm excited for you. You know, I if if you bought this thing, if you legitimately bought this thing, I would be ecstatic. I would be ecstatic, but that's gonna be I'm kind of rambling, I'm kind of just going off. Uh you know, uh it was a fun episode. I mean, I I love these kind of apps, I love these kinds of episodes because they are real talk, you know, and a lot of people, a lot of people on the internet like to they'll buy a 5090 and post a picture with the 5090, and it it might make some people feel bad. And I don't want you to feel bad. You know, if you can't afford it at the moment, don't feel bad. You start saving up, you take $20, $30 at every paycheck, put it away, don't touch it.

Jeff: 55:07

I mean, I I'm not a shit, like I've been putting stuff on Facebook Marketplace, shit. I don't, you know, it helps we're moving, right? But uh, you know, just I don't use this, get rid of it, you know, put it on and it I I have like a little envelope ups, you know, that I throw the cash in, and it kind of, you know, adds up eventually. So that's kind of, and this is not a yesterday discussion. This has been, you know, marinating for a while. So it's to your point, Jason. It's just kind of cool to give our listeners a little bit behind the scenes into, you know, I guess our discussions that we have, you know, via text about upgrades and you know, whatever things that we're thinking about adding to our rig.

Jason: 55:45

Right, because it's it's important. It's important. I mean, we've had we've had more content planned for today, but I do not want to give you the blindfolded advice that you will find on the internet. And that is if you want the if you want the frames or the performance, then you need to buy this. That is easy. I can I this conversation would have been over 20 minutes ago. I just want to let you guys know that you're not alone when it comes to looking at these things and seeing how expensive they are, because they're expensive to me, they're expensive to Jeff, they're expensive to everybody. This is a lot of money we're talking about. Um, and it's a lot of money being shown in front of you for the serious, for someone that's really serious about what they want to do and they have their goals set. You know what I mean? For those of you that are starting, you don't really have that drive yet, right? Because you need to get going first. For then for you to understand, yeah, I really do need a four a 5090. Because right now, if the simulator that you're running is iracing, you do not need a 5090. You you don't need it. You don't even need a 4090. My 4090 is because of my case, my use case. I dual stream, I stream to Twitch, YouTube at the same time. I don't want to turn down the graphics.

Jeff: 57:14

And no, I don't you use a set of CARSA, you do the truck simple. You know, there's all these other things that aren't as optimized too. You know, there's a reason, not just iRacing, that you use it too. So right 100%.

Jason: 57:25

Yeah, iRacing is CPU bound anyway. It's heavy on the CPU. If anything, I'll tell you upgrade that CPU before you upgrade your GPU. Um, if your motherboard can take it. But for you, for flying, uh, yeah, for flying in VR in a 4K, 8K capable micro OLED lens that you want to turn it up to Ultra, that's gonna take some serious horsepower for what you're looking for. And you're gonna install it, you're gonna love it. So I'm excited.

Jeff: 57:57

Yeah, it's when I got into this, I never thought I would be using the rig as much as I do. It's a way that you know, we kind of talk about this every now and again, is it's a way that I kind of blow off steam after my family goes to bed. Um, I get there and race or you know, fly a sortie or whatever. Um yeah, I use it way more than I thought it would when I first bought it. So it's kind of like, yeah, to your point, like kind of max it out looking to okay, I'm not your you know, average user now. I really want to jump into the exactly exactly next level of immersion, you know, visual. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Jason: 58:35

I think we've we we we're you know you're buying the hardware filing on here, but you're using the hardware that makes sense. You're buying the stuff because there's things that you can't do on and you want to do them, and this is the way to do them, and you're spending a little more to future proof that that that that that thirst for immersion and to use the hardware that you want to buy. And I think that's the smartest thing. It it's really smart. It's I mean, it's smart because if you bought a 5080 and saved some money, we're looking at a way sooner cycle, right? For upgrades. You know, if you bought a 5090, that's gonna, it's gonna hold its value, you know. Even if you decide that you want a 6090, you could turn around, sell that, and make some money. You know what I mean? I promise you, it happens every yeah, happens every year. It's like buying a Ferrari. You know, a lot of these rich guys buy Ferraris, and we're looking like, damn, how the fuck you why would you spend that much money on a car? But then it's really an investment. Another, another one, and my and my dad can attest to this. He has like four Rolex watches. And when you buy a Rolex watch and you're able to attain a Rolex watch, you sell that on the street, they go for way more money. And he's like, Yeah, this is money. I wear this today. I go and do my thing, and after a few months, I'm like, yeah, clean it up and polish it up and put it up for sale. He makes money. He gets another one. You know, it's kind of like that. Ferraris are like that too. It's like a club gentleman's thing. I still haven't seen a Rolex for you know sent over to Hawaii yet, but I mean, hook it up. Come on, man. Come on. One.

Jeff: 1:00:26

Pop's a good dude. I had the pleasure of meeting him. He's got a hell of a story.

Jason: 1:00:30

He does. He's got a hell of a story. And uh he's been through a lot. So watches make him happy. You know, some people, some people have their thing. Some people like golf, you know, and golf is a another death trap of a money spending machine, bro. You know, it is. I'm looking at Tailor Maids, or not the the new titleist clubs.

Jeff: 1:00:54

I know it's they're beautiful, man. I play titleist older club, older older titleists but I played.

Jason: 1:00:59

Oh, you play titleist. I play uh PXGs right now.

Jeff: 1:01:02

Okay, all right. All right, we'll have to get out there and play. I mean, like we live so far away, we should be playing golf more.

Jason: 1:01:07

I know. I suck right now.

Jeff: 1:01:10

Work gets in the way I'll look good while I do it, I promise you.

Jason: 1:01:14

I'll bring the music and drinks and cigars. Yeah, what's up?

Jeff: 1:01:17

Yeah, I um before we you know pull chocks and uh pop smoke and turn this episode, um, close it out. I do want to um address one of our emails here, Jason.

Jason: 1:01:29

If you're ready to kind of yeah, man, we got an email. Um and it uh yeah, somebody is uh about to school. We're about to get schooled.

Jeff: 1:01:39

Yeah, so one of our OG listeners, Drew Funk, uh Drew, dude, it was awesome hanging out with you at the expo. Um, you know, just just chatting and kind of just hanging out and learn a little bit about each other and uh just BS with everybody. Anyways, to the email. Hey, Jason and Jeff, I just wanted to give you a heads up that there is an app for Imza, and I think most of the races are streamed on Peacock. There is also an app for WEC and RCO GT World Challenge. I'm about a year into watching GT Racing, but Imza and SRO GT World Challenge are decently accessible. As always, keep up the good work. Love the show. Appreciate it, Drew. You're a good dude, man. Appreciate it. Um, yeah, so I've heard I a lot of people had commented that Peacock gives you the ability to watch that stuff. I don't know if I can't remember if I have Peacock or not.

Jason: 1:02:29

I think they think you got Paramount, right?

Jeff: 1:02:32

I have Paramount, yeah. Um, Peacock because they had Supercross. I was I did a lot of motocross a couple years ago. Yeah, and uh so I watched Supercross. I don't know if I have it anymore, so I might have to. I I mean I'm about to drop YouTube TV because they dropped ESPN, and you can't watch football without ESPN.

Jason: 1:02:50

And they're expensive. See ya, and the World Series is over, so yeah, aha, lose it. See ya, yeah.

Jeff: 1:02:57

It's just people greedy. Drew, I'm gonna download that app here tonight and I'll give it a go. Not that you know Ims is racing right now, I think their season's ended. So, but uh, I'm gonna be ready to go. I'm full in for when this thing kicks off again because it should be fairly close to hopefully after F1 season ends. I think we only have four more races for F1. So um hopefully, Jason, this will fill in the gap, you know, that we're always bitching at each other, that they're making so much money, but they're taking all this time off.

Jason: 1:03:24

So it'll give us a chance to start fresh, right? With something new. And um, I'm interested too, man. And I you always need a buddy. That's what I think about with motorsports. You need a buddy, and you need that buddy to be a fan of somebody that you don't like. Because that's healthy, man. The the shit talking must continue, and it's good, it's healthy because then we go watch the race, we're excited, and when your guy wins, you can rub it in their face and send them a meme or two because the memes are out there, bro, to get into the general text message is salty sometimes when F1 happens.

Jeff: 1:04:02

When when so oh it's not lately, not lately, man, but George's has been doing really good lately. He's had a consistent little run here, so he's battling for what third for points.

Jason: 1:04:13

So I'm sure Hamilton is regretting uh Ferrari was the worst mistake. Yeah.

Jeff: 1:04:22

I haven't forgot about the fact that we did the pre-race guesses uh when we you said, hey, who do you think's gonna score more points if they're so-and-so and so-and-so? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I will get I am tracking all that stuff. I know the episode happened. We will give you an update in like three, four more races at time of less listening. This, and so we'll see how our guesses were.

Jason: 1:04:42

Okay. Well, thank you, Jeff. I appreciate everything. I hope you guys enjoy this one. This one's more of a this episode was more of a real talk when building a PC, which is probably gonna be some title that I come up with. But um, I think it's important to have a discussion about shopping for things, um, especially the main brains, which is the PC right before Black Friday. But we are um we're gathering information on we're trying to time it right with when the deals will drop, which I'm gonna compare what happened last year and see if I can get you guys an episode to kind of keep you guys up to date with all the sales that are happening. But it seems like right now it's kind of like people are just waiting to just jump the gun and say, our Black Friday deals are live. You can go and shop right now. It's like they're not waiting for a single day. So we'll do the best we can here to keep you guys up to date.

Jeff: 1:05:43

So Facebook groups are like chomping at the bit, waiting.

Jason: 1:05:47

That that would be the best advice is to join the the Sim Racing setups, uh Michael's group on Facebook. There's a hundred and thirty thousand people in there that are enthusiastic, and they're gonna post something there if you need if you need information the minute. Um on my live streams, I'll try to announce whatever I know at the time. And yeah, that's that's as much as we can do. Um, or if I see something extraordinary, then I'll just do a YouTube post maybe or or Insta. But that's gonna be it for this week. Um thank you, Ju Funk, for the consecutive email. I appreciate those, man. The follow-ups. I appreciate you taking the time to write that. Uh Jeff, thank you so much for your time today, brother. We had some, you know, it's uh we have some technicalities here, and it's all good in the hood. Uh, but is there anything else you would like to say or cover before we go?

Jeff: 1:06:46

No, that's about it. Other than, you know, the normal team, all the listeners, drive fast and break late, fellas, and any ladies that listen.

Jason: 1:06:54

So we need to find a new one for you too. Like uh fly high. Yeah.

Jeff: 1:07:00

Fair enough.

Jason: 1:07:01

Yeah. After burner or something.

Jeff: 1:07:03

I'll have to think of something. Yeah.

Jason: 1:07:04

I'll have to think of something. With the flights. You know, I would love to see a live stream putting you on this.

Jeff: 1:07:11

It's hard. What do you mean it's hard to live stream? Oh, I'm talking about not embarrassing yourself on live stream.

Jason: 1:07:18

I mean no, that's good press.

Jeff: 1:07:21

Yeah. There's no such thing as bad press.

Jason: 1:07:26

Exactly. There's no such thing as bad press, bro. So, with that, guys, thank you so much. Um, yeah, I appreciate you, Jeff, and to all you viewers and listeners out there, have a great start of your week. Thank you.