GT3: Because Not Everyone Wants To Lose An Arm In A Formula Car

Ever wonder why GT3 seems to be everywhere—from ads and thumbnails to league banners—when F1 and prototypes steal the headlines on TV? We pull back the curtain on the class that grabbed sim racing by the scruff: approachable electronics, road-car glamor, and a deceptively high skill ceiling that keeps you grinding for tenths long after your first clean lap. Then we get practical about growth. If you’ve lived in GT3, you may be missing crucial reps—TCR for entry rotation and power-on push, MX‑5 for momentum discipline, vintage for throttle steer, and prototypes for traffic and spatial awareness. We share how a weekly class rotation can unlock better brake release, calmer hands, and smarter racecraft when you jump back into your favorite GT car or strap into a 24‑hour stint at Monza.

We also explore a killer formula option: a modern F1 pack for Assetto Corsa that nails team-specific aero shapes, dashboards, gloves, and performance gaps. The sounds are ferocious, sparks fly under load, flat spots show up in replays, and wing flex sells speed in a way most “official” games don’t. With Content Manager and Custom Shaders Patch, setup is pain-free and visuals pop; league tools make it realistic to mirror the F1 calendar and get laps in before you watch real quali. Heads-up for VR users: you’ll want to tune settings, but the value-to-immersion ratio is outstanding.

Along the way, we trade notes on rolling starts, first-corner survival, the rhythm of endurance pacing, and the hardware chatter lighting up the scene—from quick-release pricing to base features that might change your upgrade path. We keep it honest about shipping delays and why clear communication matters when you’re waiting to race that new wheel in a 24-hour Porsche marathon.

If this helped you rethink your training plan or discover a new way to drive F1 at home, tap follow, share the show with a teammate, and leave a review with the class that leveled you up most. Your notes power future deep dives and help more racers find their line.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Introduction
• 1:36 Announcements
• 14:15 Main Discussion
• 50:50 Closing Remarks

Transcript

Jason: 0:00

This episode is brought to you by Trophy AI, the ultimate performance coach tool for simracers. Where we discuss all things in the SIP racing world. I'm your host, Jason Rivera, and I'm joined here by Jeff Smart. How was your week, bud? How's it going?

Jeff: 0:44

It was good, man. Jason, I've been doing uh I've been driving a lot. I'll talk about it. It has to do with my topic here. So I was did some heavy, difficult research this week to be prepared for my topic today. So it was very difficult, very strenuous. Um had to block off serious amounts of time to research for my topic. So I was good, man. It was good. I'm I'm joking around. But uh I got to drive a bunch. Um nothing really to announce. Um so I do have one thing I would like to kind of uh put out to the to the community here. So last episode I talked about the um Delara IR 15 and I spoke about how it has a rolling start. I think all F4 races should have a rolling start. You get rid of the vast majority of for first corner wrecks because as the front of the field takes off, you stretch out a little bit, right? You know what I'm talking about? And you because you you do rolling starts in your GT3 races, yeah? So in the Porsche race, yes. Yeah, so um that helps. No, we don't.

Jason: 1:52

We do it in the uh we do it in the GT4s, sorry. But yeah, I hear you. I hear you.

Jeff: 1:57

What's up? It just alleviates because I've been driving a lot of these uh, you know, the um the IR 15s, and I was like, man, just this is a great idea. It just spreads out that field a little bit for the first corner and just don't have all these pile-ups and yeah, it's nice, it's breath of refresh air, or it's because it's you know C-class drivers and they tend to have their shit together a little bit more.

Jason: 2:19

So there's pros and cons, but there's definitely more pros to rolling starts, yes. The only thing is that when you have this guy that's weaving, attempting to heat his tires up, and they accidentally hit you, right? That does happen. And I've been taken out like on a formation lab. It's dizzying when everybody in front of you is like they're doing this, and I'm like, yo, chill, you're getting a little too close.

Jeff: 2:48

Yeah, like is that really work that much? No, you know, and you're like, you can hear it being like somebody goes like, hey idiot, we haven't even started the race yet, you hit me, you know?

Jason: 2:58

Like it's it's just bad no matter what, because on a dry star that we do on the Porsche, uh the Porsche has no TCS. And a lot of people like to launch the car, and sometimes it doesn't go, it doesn't go right. And you spin out, and the guy in behind you might have a good launch, and then he just hits you in the back. That's happened like all the time. It happens in real life.

Jeff: 3:25

So yeah, there was a big wreck in uh a Porsche Cup uh race. I forget what it was, a chicane. Like they actually did you I don't know if you saw it on you know, it's all over Instagram where they like came through a chicane, the car went sideways, and it's like clogged the track up. No cars could get through, they just kept piling in. They had to stop the race and cancel the race.

Jason: 3:43

I think so. Yeah, I think you sent me a link or something. Yeah, it was also oh and this one guy just comes barreling in and like just every race, every race, those cars um they touch doors all the time, and it's fine. It's just a normal, it's more aggressive, you know. Everyone you touch someone's side, that's like death, bro. Like you trying to kill me.

Jeff: 4:06

You trying to kill me. It's good to see even the professionals that do this, you know, for a living or you know, doing stupid shit like that.

Jason: 4:13

Yeah, it makes us feel better about ourselves.

Jeff: 4:15

Oh, yeah, a lot better about ourselves. So how about you, how about you, buddy? How was your week?

Jason: 4:22

My week was great, man. You know, I've had a little I've had a little ups and downs this week on just just trying to get back into routine, uh uh working on reviews and working on solo content. And it, you know, it's that time of year, I guess. You know, it it's getting darker outside quicker, the day's not lasting long. I'm pretty sure in different places it's significantly different. In Hawaii, you know, five o'clock is already kind of sundown, right? It's kind of getting dark over here. Um, but I can't wait for the holidays because the holidays is the best time of the year, it's the happiest time of the year. Um, Black Friday's coming, so we're gonna have a big special for you on Black Friday. We're gonna go ham trying to find even more things um for that episode. And yeah, um I I'm excited.

Jeff: 5:15

Yeah, you know what the best part about the holiday season is? No work. Well, that too, but I got some of that uh Puerto Rican drink coming my way. Hope again this year.

Jason: 5:25

Yes, you do. Yes, you do all right. I forget the name of it, but it is Coquito, yes. Coquito, that's it, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm gonna make you some more this year. Do you have any family coming over uh this this year? I don't think so.

Jeff: 5:37

We're because we're getting ready to highho Nevada, the island, right after Christmas.

Jason: 5:41

Oh, yeah. So yeah, so news flash guys, Jeff is um departing from Hawaii. I'm trying to stop him, but I can't stop him.

Jeff: 5:50

So but as we like to say, Jason's laying it on thick.

Jason: 5:53

I'm laying it on the bridge. Bro, can't go fishing, you know. You like to you love you love the beach. You love the beach. Yeah, even if even if it's just a walk on the sand real quick, you'll just go over there. Yeah, just today, you were like, hey, I'm going to the beach real quick. I can't. I was going to beach an hour. Brought lunch out there, yeah. That ain't happening back in Boston. That's really tough, right? On the on on other places, but you know, life has his you have your reasons, and I'm sure you'll regret it, and I'll be here.

Jeff: 6:31

Fair enough, touche. Touche.

Jason: 6:34

We'll help you get started, we'll help you get back up and running no time. But yeah, that was my week. Um, pretty, pretty productive um week for me as actually. Racing, we have three, three guys. We have three 24 hours, uh, 24 hour events that are happening. We have one that's happening on November 7th. Uh, we're gonna be racing on Monza for 24 hours, then Daytona, late November, and then on December 21st or something like that. And there's one more, one more track. Just keep keep an eye on. I'll probably do like a post or something if you guys want to hang out and join us for the 24 hours of hell. Um, who knows, Jeff? Maybe uh maybe we'll get you uh, you know, it'll be a lot easier, man.

Jeff: 7:27

I mean, first things first. I mean, I I haven't been in a GT3 car.

Jason: 7:31

Just about to retire. We got time now. We got a little bit that little bit of time to it. Just before this, I was on with the boys and we did like 30 laps around Monza. And I was telling them, I was like, dude, this is going to kind of suck a little. Like, it's gonna drain us pretty good. Because at least Norse life, right? It's a nine-minute, eight, eight-minute, you know, sub-eight-minute lap. You get to see forest, trees, differences. Bro, Monza, it's like a minute, a minute and 40 or minute and 45 is kind of what the times are that you go around again and again and again. So it's gonna be crazy. Um, but those are my favorite. Those are my favorite events. The 24. I will not miss them for the world, and I'll do my best to not miss them.

Jeff: 8:22

So I'll be dropping for sure. Yeah, it's fine.

Jason: 8:26

I mean, I usually drop in a couple times on the 24 just to, you know, I'd love for you to I'd love for you to drive it one just one time because it's an experience. Um even if you're not fast there, uh, you know, it don't matter. Uh you have to experience something that it's insane, bro. It's insane. But uh yeah, I got some announcements this week. Um, it's kind of a complaint here. You know, last episode, Jeff asked me about the Porsche wheel that I pre-ordered months ago, and I don't have a shipping notification. And at the time of this recording, it's an odd day for us. Um there's no shipment yet. So podium one is the first time I order from you guys. I know you're saying that it's a customs problem, but I'm not impressed, you know. I I I need some some door busting, phone calls being happened, you know? I would be upset if things are in customs and not waiting. It could be it could be our government shutdown, you know. I I'm trying to be a little more, how do you say that? Yeah, trying to give, I'm trying to get put logic on it, right? Well, maybe it's the government shutdown, maybe, maybe this, maybe that. But we just need a little more communication. I think communication is key for those that spent the money. So if you are one of those people, because I recommended podium one on the show when I pre-ordered this wheel, just hang tight. Um hang tight and let's have a little faith, let's suffer together. Um, because I really want to try the wheel, man. I really want to use it. I want to use it for a Porsche race, you know. Now I have this 24-hour event, which will be in a Porsche, and it would be nice to race that thing and give it and give it the feedback it needs, right? A full 24 hours of use would definitely tell me if it's a good wheel or not. But yeah, we are living in some crazy times right now, huh? Yeah, a lot of things are kind of acting weird, like our government shutdown right now in the United States.

Jeff: 10:36

TSA's, you know, flights are getting delayed, and I have yeah, there were people like that waited six hours to get through TSA in Atlanta yesterday.

Jason: 10:47

Oh, I saw the same post. Then I read in the comments, some dude was like, Yeah, I was in and out for five minutes. I don't know what you're talking about. Fake news. So who knows, man? It's hard to find the truth, too, right? That is truth. Nowadays, yeah, be careful what you read online. Yeah, you really do. They have all kinds of AI stuff. Like I was looking at the storm and um the storm that just recently hit Jamaica, and as of this recording is passing through Cuba. Any Jamaican listeners out there or family, uh, prayers, hope everything is okay. Hunger down. Yeah. Those are natural disasters are out of our control. They, when they when they say there's coming, you have a few days to prepare, and that's not enough time. Like we had a freaking tsunami scare here, and Jeff and I were figuring out what to do with the rigs. That was put them in the attic. Get them high. What are we gonna do? So um, you know, jokes aside, I I from the bottom of my heart, I really send out prayers to you. If any of your family members out there, um I hate to see it, you know. I hate to see it. The Air Force was crazy flying into this thing too. Then yeah, then these AI videos popped up out of nowhere, like these fake storms now, and you just it's hard to I don't know.

Jeff: 12:14

Those Hurricane Hunter pilots that fly through the take their little C-130 through the hurricanes, those guys got stones, boy.

Jason: 12:22

They got balls, bro. Because if you look at the uh I looked at the video you sent me and they were flying in, and it's not what you see in front of you, it's what you see in the window right next to you, right? It's like holy sh like it's like the water all over, yeah.

Jeff: 12:39

Like and all of a sudden they're like there's calm freaking wall clouds as they fly in through the water.

Jason: 12:46

It's actually beautiful inside of it, you know.

Jeff: 12:49

It does have like a, you know, and I I we don't want to, you know, speak, you know, make it sound unseth, you know, unsensitive to those that are affected by it, but did have like a some type of like beauty or coolness to it, yeah. So, but we you know, we say that in with all the respect to the people that you know are affected by it.

Jason: 13:06

In Puerto Rico, um, we got hit with George, um, Stormcore George by back in the day, early 90s. And we were crazy enough to go outside when the wind stopped, and it was we were in the eye of the storm. And when you look up, it was dark, it wasn't daylight, it was like purple and freaking rainbows all over the place. It was freaking crazy. Um then we went back inside, of course. Um yeah, that was scary. So, yeah, thoughts and prayers go out to you all. I just thought it was crazy to see the the Air Force um showing some massive balls going into this thing. A freaking category five storm, which is crazy, but um, yeah, so prayers to you all, God bless. Uh, hope everything is well with the families, and uh yeah. All right, I think we'll move on to uh let's talk about some sim racing, huh? Yes, back to back to sim racing and my question of the day, which is a it's a topic slash question, and I have some notes here that I have ready. Um is why do we why is GT3 so popular? Why is it every time that you see a commercial of a sim or you see uh promotion being done for a sim, it has to have a GT3 car in it. And I want to ask you that. What are your thoughts before I get into it, Jeff?

Jeff: 14:44

It's a super interesting question you bring up because I won't say that GT3 racing is nearly as popular as F1, NASCAR.

Jason: 14:56

You're a fan, you're a fan of absolutely.

Jeff: 15:00

But globally, yeah, yeah, like NAS, like the masses. F1, NASCAR, indie, head and shoulders over GT3 Cup P cup racing. Um I think uh my answer would be is it is the best car uh that the average Joe could drive. Okay, you know, like it is the coolest car that you see on the streets. You know, like the McLaren's, the Porsches, the Lambos, you know, like these cars where you see every you don't say every day, but you can see them on the street, right? And the GT3 class, you get to race those badass cars that you see. And I think that's to my opinion, is probably why attainable too, right?

Jason: 15:47

Yeah, you would say they're attainable compared to a multi-billion dollar industry like F1. Yeah, you know, where you can't just have multiple of the same car, you have maybe one or two, and it's very custom. And the next year it's very custom, you know, it's very, very different, two different beasts, right?

Jeff: 16:11

Yeah, GT3 is just a I don't know what, because you're right. Every time you see something on Instagram or, you know, to GT3. Yeah, podium one Facebook ad, or you know, in some type of ad, or like you were saying, is it some type of GT3? Okay, and that's what got me into it. You know, I joined for Formula, but then it was like I got stuck in ACC and the McLaren for what, eight months? I don't even think of anything else.

Jason: 16:37

Um you should jump back in there. I I I I feel like you'll I didn't it'll it'll it'll it'll remind you of how awesome it was.

Jeff: 16:46

You know, I uh meant to hit content manager, uh, the little logo, you know, AC, uh, and I hit ACC because they're super close, the logos. And I loaded up and I'll look at it.

Jason: 16:57

Yeah, they're slightly.

Jeff: 16:58

I'm already in. I might as well load up for old time's sake. And I was like, oh dear lord, this clunk, this car is clunky compared to a formula car. It looks like it's heavy. Um I don't know, Jason. Like it's a that's a good question. I uh that's mine. It's it's like it's the ones that you it's the car that you have on the wall as a kid, you know, as like the porches, the Ferraris, the you know, the the Lambos, and then it's as you get older, it's your ability to race them, even so be it as a sim racing. What do you think? Why do you think? You know, so I took a T T three are so popular.

Jason: 17:34

I took a few notes here, and I'm gonna go over those. And the reason why they're so popular is because it's consumer racing, right? It's cars that are built to be drivable by pros and by some rich people because the rich can just go and buy a car and put it in a garage and rent the track and go for it, you know, and they all have GT3s, have TCS, they have ABS, and they're super forgiving. They're easy for you to drive. They're easy for you to drive. Now, a lot of people, a lot of pros in the sim world and in the real world, they're easy to drive, but they're not, but they're hard to be fast in, if that makes sense. Okay, so they have some driving aids that can save you from the wall or you yourself, Jeff, can go right now with the skills that you know, other than not wanting to crash a $450,000 or whatever it cost. If it was an open lot and they told you, don't worry about it, just go for it. You will put it in gear and you will move this car and you will push it, and you will get comfortable with it, and you'll take it on the track, and I believe that you will drive it. A Formula One car, you'll probably lose your damn arm or head or something with all the G's yanking your body. You know what I mean? It's very two different animals. So then there's the group, right? That always says, Oh, cool, you know, a fast car that's still drivable by a big chunk of players. So you have a car that's a class that's so popular, right? A lot of people just get tired of it. They get they get kind of like bored with it. It's kind of like it's like, oh, it's a GT3 again. I'm kind of tired of that. You know what I'm saying? And that's how one of our, you know, one of my one of our teammates felt, one of our teammates in the in our SRC team. Um, and he was like, Yeah, it's kind of, you know, it's a GT3, you know. He's used to driving P Cup. But then he realized that wow, these other people are really putting down time that I can't achieve. And he's a really fast guy, too. So I believe that um I believe that the reason they're so popular is because that's how you start, right? You buy iRacing or whatever sim, and you get attracted by the car that looks cool, sounds cool, and then you can actually drive the car, and you end up driving this car, and then you end up learning this car. And now you don't want to drive anything but this car or the class. You know, that's that's kind of what what I've gathered here. So, you know, and then it ties into the algorithm. So YouTube is watching this, Instagram is watching this, and that's why if you're into motorsport and they know you are because of the people you follow or the your watch time, right? How long you stood looking at something is actually a thing. They're gonna show you production cars, they're gonna show you Porsches or Lambos or Ferraris easily. They're gonna show you. Even now, if I have our phone, our phones right next to us. Next time you go in there, you probably see uh Porsche Cup on track, you know. So, I mean, and then there's so many other classes, which is why I'm bringing this up. You know, you have prototypes, you have LMD, you have LMP, you have TCR, you have club racing, you have vintage, you have ovals, like you said, you have you know, single mate GT4, single make, excuse me, GT4, which is just a set step down, they're still fast, you know. Um I just want to put out to light the context of this is if you are a new sim racer and you are attracted to the GT3, then yes, continue on that, but don't forget about the other stuff, you know, like Jeff, for example, Jeff was all formula, um uh that's that was his focus, his formula. Then he came over one day and I was like, hey man, you should try the GT3. Don't the formula's cool and everything, but the GT3 is kind of like the most approachable class, it has all the aids for you. It's really hard for to lose the car unless you're really trying to push the car. Um but then you found the love for you know P car, you know, the the hypercars. Now you have love for those. So I guess it's a small topic about you know why why GT4s are so popular, and it's because you know it's it's the mass market, mass media is has its eyes on it. You know, what do you yeah, yeah.

Jeff: 23:06

You know, I guess it's it's if you think of like each car each manufacturer with like Mercedes, Lamborghini, McLaren, um, you know, those those type of their top car is like the GT3 car that gets raced. You know, so it goes, you know, it goes from the kid that has the car on his poster in his room to you know watching videos on YouTube as they get older, and then sim racing is a way to, you know, for an average dude to get as close as he can to driving a uh quarter million dollar car. Yeah, you know, and it's it's it's popular because it's of that as you grow up, but then it's popular because uh there's so many people in there driving it, it's good racing.

Jason: 23:50

So the the key take here is that GT3 everything is set to medium. So it's medium down force, it's medium tire slip, right? So if you're only practicing GT3 cars, if you ever stepped into a different type of car like the ones that I mentioned earlier, you're not gonna, you know, you're kind of limiting yourself to that one class. And you know, what if it's late that night or something, or you feel like trying something different, you know? There are different classes teach you different things, and I wrote a few notes here. So TCR class, right? That teaches you forward, excuse me, control forward rotation. So it teaches you how to corner at entry, right? MX5 is the low power, it teaches you momentum, you know, better at not over slowing. So it keeps you how to it teaches you how to keep the revs up, keep keep the flow, keep the how do you say this? Um, keep the speeds up, you know, momentum based.

Jeff: 24:56

100%. Yeah, I think that's a big, I think uh, yeah, some of our guests have said that too.

Jason: 25:00

Yeah, uh, I think um uh uh the 10 KI rating. Yeah. Which I forgot his name on the show. God forbid.

Jeff: 25:09

Um, but yeah, to your point of just carrying speed through corners.

Jason: 25:14

Yeah, carrying speed through corners, uh, Cam, excuse me. Cam Ebbon. There we go. The man cam, cam the man. And then you have vintage that teaches you how to steer with the throttle. You know, it's better when, you know, better when GT3 traction control is off or wet. So all these types of different classes, right? They all teach you different um, how do you say this? Rules, I guess. They teach you disciplines. That's what I want to say. They teach you how to formula is a different beast. Formula is all about weight transferring and carry and speed into a corner. You don't really slam the brakes before a turn. You know what I mean?

Jeff: 26:01

Yeah, I think you know, to your point about the MX5, I think the you know, the Formula 1600 and the Formula V are very much the same. You know, hey, get the car turned and carry speed through corners. Yeah, principles are principles with those um cars that aren't massively powered, but back to GT3s.

Jason: 26:22

Yeah, so just don't look at it like I need to drive a GT3 to fit in, is what I want to say here. Um, even though I primarily drive GT3 cars, and it's because I love them. But if you told me, hey, let's let's race in a formula race, I'm ready to go. If we want to race in a P car, we'll do it. You know, NASCAR, I'm starting to pick up. You know, even though I I don't not a fan of NASCAR, I'm not a fan of watching it, but driving it is very different. I've noticed. I've noticed that it's a lot more intense than I thought it would be. You know, I just thought it was left-hand turn that I thought that I was just gonna be relaxing in the rig.

Jeff: 27:07

Hang on for dear life or just hammer down. Yeah, it's just hanging on for life.

Jason: 27:11

It's cool, you don't have to shift much, you know, but I thought you are fighting for your life on every bank.

Jeff: 27:19

Every bank gripping the ever-living shit on my wheel when I race over NASCAR or something like that. I mean, it's just I'm like, oh, I go down the straightaways and I'm like trying to wriggle my fingers with one flow stick. Yeah. Meanwhile, you're going down the straightaway, you're like, like, I switched lanes, I didn't even move the steering wheel. You know, you're like, yeah.

Jason: 27:38

So I mean, GT3 is a big part of um uh it's a big part of motorsports in general. And I really wish that they did like a drive to survive or something with them because it's really hard to follow the IMSA series, as you found out, Jeff. Now that you're getting into it, it's kind of like shit, what's the schedule? Where the races and it's like all over the place. I kind of wish it was a little more structured. I wish there was an IMSA app that I can pay for, which somebody could probably correct me right now and say, Yeah, there is, bro. And please do shout it out in the comments if there's a service where I can just watch everything, but I haven't found that, you know.

Jeff: 28:19

Yeah, I mean, I just stumbled upon that, you know, the YouTube. I know YouTube built up. Yeah, the YouTube had it, but it was and it wasn't if it wasn't for that last event, right? I wouldn't have um, but to your point, yeah, I know the F1 app when there is when they share the track with the P Cup, they do show those practices and and races for what it's worth. Um, but again, to your point, they're few and far between when they when they have those like Singapore, I I a handful of them, I know.

Jason: 28:46

Um yeah, and and and I think that Porsche Cup is technically separate, it's separate from the Imsa series.

Jeff: 28:53

It would oh that I mean, at least I know the oh that's fair, yeah. I know the single the Singapore one is like the East Asia something or other, right? I mean, I'm way out of my lane here.

Jason: 29:03

So I think Imsa's got the it's cool because it's got the the multi-class, so you can see GT3s, and you're like, you know what? What are the um it would be nice to pick up like a remote controller and start flicking through, right? Different, you know, like I want to see this fight, you know, or or that fight, or what are these, you know, it's fun, it's fun, and I think you know, Jeff and I all the time we always talk about doing a race in the house and or or watching quality or practice. I wish I could do that, you know. I wish I can just have a little more control.

Jeff: 29:39

So yeah, but it should be super nice to your point, is to you know, like yeah, you know, get together and just have a race or quality on and just you know hang out and BS, have a cocktail, whatever, and just shoot the shit with the rate, with the you know, with with the cars, and just with the yeah, be sweet.

Jason: 29:55

We love cars, that's the most in common thing we have is cars. You know, it's motorsport cars and tracks and you know wrecks in some cases. The last F1 race was interesting. Very interesting calls.

Jeff: 30:10

We had more lawnmowers out there than cars.

Jason: 30:14

Yeah, we had some lawnmowers and some some some pretty interesting calls by the FIA, which I don't want to get into it. I'm I I am finished with my GT3 topic today.

Jeff: 30:26

Yeah, yeah. You know whose favorite car the FIA is their favorite car? Do you know what it is? Is that it's the virtual safety car. It's the virtual safety car. That's their savior savior favorite car. So the VS. If you saw the race, you'll know what we're talking about. A little salty because they cheated us out of some fantastic racing down the stretch.

Jason: 30:46

A lot of teams, too.

Jeff: 30:47

Yeah, yeah. Oh, it was like three battles on the track that would have been world class, but cheated out of it.

Jason: 30:53

Yeah, so that, you know, or sometimes we go into a Formula One break and we kind of like, what can we watch? You know, and I I wish that Imsa had like again, I'll wait for you to comment in the comments or send us an email. But check the Chicane podcast at Gmail.com.

Jeff: 31:10

100% to your point is why is Imsa racing during F1? They should be offset. You know, like the WNBA doesn't play necessarily overlap with as much as they're offset as much as they can from like the W, you know, the the NFL. You know, they should try to offset from Formula One as much as possible.

Jason: 31:28

Yeah, to get the audience.

Jeff: 31:29

Yeah, 100%, right? You know, because me and you are always complaining that, you know, I guess we don't know when IMSA starts again. Maybe it does start when the season ends. Who knows? Somebody in the comments will definitely let us know when the season's gonna be.

Jason: 31:39

Somebody's gonna school us on IMSA. And I would love to hear can't wait. Be as detailed as you can, and I will I will go and follow through and follow up. And because I need that. I want to watch, I want to watch more, you know. WRC is another thing that I pay for, but sometimes that's hard to watch, bro, because the announcers are just not good, you know. You know, but that's an opinion. Opinion. Yeah, I just don't know enough about it. Over to you, bro.

Jeff: 32:09

Fair for my topic, yeah.

Jason: 32:11

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Jeff: 32:42

So, yeah, we'll take a transition here from GT3s and uh go to, you know, my my topic today is it's very difficult to, as popular as F1 is, is to race F1 in a car for this the you know in sim racing that is a good accurate representation of formula racing. So let's just put the F1 24, 25, whatever they're gonna release in the future from EA Sports over here. And we're not gonna call those, we'll call those, you know, what's the what do you call them? Simcades, right? You know, they're they're they're not a sim, they're not a video game, they're somewhere in between. So we'll just put it over there. It's super difficult to find a place to erase, you know, what we watch on TV, the F1. So um a set of Corsamods.com released their um a set of coursaf. I think you've got that org here. We'll leave a link. Don't worry about that. Oh, it is it's a set of corsa mods.org. So they released their F125 mod 2.5 um update here late September.

Jason: 33:51

I've never tried it, you know. I need to try this.

Jeff: 33:53

So I paid for it, and we'll kind of get into some of the topics here. I did, I mean, dude, because it's like well, the way I looked at it, I was like, so here it is. It's like 16 bucks. It's like out of, I forget what it is in pounds, but um, here we'll just uh we'll share here so everybody can see where I'm pulling.

Jason: 34:08

Oh, this is dope. I love this. Yes, this data from, right? Yes, yes. I want to see.

Jeff: 34:13

Um, you got that there, Jason? Yes, sir. All right, so six. Oh, it's on sale. It's on six, guys. Yeah, jump in there now. It's like what's that a third off-ish? So uh I downloaded it and it comes with a so I had most of the tracks that are on the F1 circuit, but it definitely gave it gives you you know the new tracks for the F1 circuit for 2025, um, with some facelifts. For well, I got facelifts because I had older tracks, you know, some they've some better polished uh curbs, updated billboards, etc. Um, so which was super surprising is here, I'll kind of scroll down here. Um it and the first thing that caught me by surprise is it gives you each car, but you know, of the 10 teams that are in F1. But what I instantly noticed was they're not just the same car with different skins on them. Like you actually get different, like I know the Red Bull has their it's like a pedo tube or an antenna on the front of their car. And some of like the Mercedes doesn't have that, they have it a little different. Those differences are there, you know. Like the side pods on the cars are different in the game as they are in the real life. So you're getting like 10 distinct different cars along that line is uh each team has different performances uh that they would replicate in the real world, i.e., the Red Bull is a lot faster and performs better than we'll say the Williams, right? Um, so so that is super cool. Um, and and I'll pile on to there to say that um interesting that you get when you get into the car, um the Mercedes wheel is the Mercedes wheel that they use, you know, similar to this one that Simlab has, right? That's the Mercedes replica wheel. That's what's in there. Not only is it it that wheel, but it's the dash that George, you know, Russell has and Kimmy Antonelli has, you know. So and to even add even more, if you pick Kimmy Antonelli's car, you get his gloves in front of them. He wears white gloves and he has like a colored, different colored helmet that George has his blue gloves and the blue helmet. So that's kind of cool, right? So you're getting legitimately right two different cars. So you're getting what 20 different cars and what's like 25 different tracks for 16 bucks. You know, when you look at that and you compare it to you know, iRacing, it's floating around the water, a great value, right? That's one track. So and I'll scroll up so you can guys kind of see some of the pictures here. Um big thing that I noticed instantly jumping in is this is the best sounding F1 game or out there. The sound is fantastic. Beats any other game out there. Just how did you find this, Jeff? Um, dude, honestly, a set of course of mods like somehow got my email and spams the shit out of my email. And I was looking for a I forgot irrelevant email, but it said, hey, check your check your spam folder. And I went to my spam folder and I had like 75 things from um a set of course of mods, but they were all they've been trying to get to you, right? So well, mission accomplished, you know. So hey guys, but yeah, so the sounds are awesome. Um so it comes with a way that you can set up a championship mode if you want it every week. This is really what I do. I, you know, part of what I enjoy about sim racing is as I'm watching the F1 calendar, um, I can if you know, like uh um Brazil's next race, right? Like I can jump in the Brazil track in the Mercedes and drive it. And then I can go watch practice and see how George and Kimmy and you know all the other knuckleheads that are driving F1 doing it. You know, it's just this, it's like, oh, I have a hard time with that corner. And it's just a cool way to, you know, kind of be involved with the F1 calendar, if you know what I mean. So I drive a set of Corsa um with the F1 mods from RSS, um, and now, you know, um a set of Corsa mods and what they're you know, Dream Sim is what this has kind of binned under. Um, but here we'll just go through some of this stuff that they do. They also provide a um a file or some type of program that lets you handle league league racing with it, which is super cool. I'd love to get into that. I think it would be fantastic to have a league race that follows the F1 calendar.

Jason: 38:43

Right.

Jeff: 38:43

Right? That would be super cool. Um, rain mode, I have not had a chance to jump in there yet um with a rain mode. I just uh I've did a bunch of testing and stuff, I just hadn't got there with rain. Uh pick crew. So, you know, if you play F1, there is, you know, you start in the pits and they're all around you, you have the monitor in front of you. They tried to do that. It's very awkward. Like you get dumped into the game, uh to the sim, you're on the track, and like you're on the side of the track. Like if you're getting ready to do a hot lap, and there's like five people around you with clipboards and stuff, you start driving like 10 feet, and they're like with you. And then all of a sudden they're like, Bing, they're gone, and you're driving. So A for effort, they're trying. C plus for for result. Um, I talked about the individual MFDs, each car. So, like the I did a couple laps with the Ferrari and the Red Bull, and their you know, dashes on their wheels are what they are in the real F1 game, they're not the same dash that just carries along each car, which is kind of cool, right? Um, removable halos, everybody's got that nowadays. Um, aero sensors. Um, I talked to so this is cool, you know. Like Jason, you and I are big F1 fans, and when preseason testing comes around, it's like the first time you've had F1 uh in like three months. So you're willing to watch anything go around a track that looks like an F1 car, you know, and a lot of times they have those those big arrow rakes on front of them. Yeah, the the you can do this with this update. Like they put the aero sensors and you can drive around with them. I don't know why you can. So that's cool. That's cool. Um, so uh they have sparks that come off the car. Um, I think the RSS uh mod does that as well, which is cool. I did a I did a race uh last night or the night before at Spa. You're going up that uphill chicane uh Ever Rouge, and there's sparks flying everywhere as you're smoking, you know, following the car in front of you, which is super cool. Um another thing that I thought that they do very well is I had tested it, but I you slam on the brakes and lock the front brakes up and you get the smoke, but then you see the flat spot go around the wheel. Oh, snap, cool. You know, if you're at low speed, you can actually see that flat spot go around. So that's kind of cool. Um, you have to enable it in um the tire FX. This is you listen, if you're doing a set of course and you don't have um uh um CSP uh content messenger, custom standers patch. Custom standards patch. Maybe we should do a a topic on that maybe later. But if you don't know what that is, Google it. You need to have it, it's incredible. It makes the visuals way better.

Jason: 41:16

But uh yeah, I was about to ask that question that you for any of this, you would need uh start off with, yeah.

Jeff: 41:22

Yeah, you need to start off with that, which it's free, easy install, um, at which I'll speak to here in a second. Another cool thing is on replays, when you are you can you know watch your car from the front wing as you go to the high speed, you can see the wing flex. Um, again, like if you're into that type of stuff, cool. It's there if you want it. You know, it's like you know what I'm saying? Like when you're watching F1 and they sell the front wing, you it's like that. You can see the wing flex from the all the drag being placed on it. Um I talked to the different performances from each team. Um, and then this one is just the sound. The sound is just awesome.

Jason: 41:59

Awesome. Um, I need to try this, man.

Jeff: 42:02

Yeah, and then the skins is just the whole the graphics of inside the car is really what um is Jason. Like when you're like I did uh I drove us you know in the Red Bull, and you can see Max Max's or you know um Sonoda's gloves, and there's like the little felt around the glove as they're you know inside outside. Yeah, some detail.

Jason: 42:27

So there's very high detail.

Jeff: 42:29

There's no seam on the inside, like that level of detail. You can see the sparkle on their fingers and stuff. It was just it's really well done. Um, to the point of I was driving the Mercedes earlier today at the Red Bull ring, and I went around a corner and went onto the curb, and you can see the reflections on the halo from the red and white as you're going over it. Um, just and that's part of that is the custom shaders patch and stuff like that. I get it. For 13 bucks, if you are for uh a formula fan or just have an inkling of formula, like the value to dollars spent here, well worth it. You know, um in VR, I did a bunch of this testing in VR, it was taxing. Um we'll just say it was it, it's not nearly as optimized as iRacing is, let's put it that way. I had to I had to turn down some settings, um, you know, turn uh it was acting a lot, yeah. It was it's pretty demanding. Um so but yeah, so this is just a cool way that you can like this is I think this is probably the best F1 racing sim racing that that's out on the markets. And it and unfortunately, it's it sucks that this is what it is, right? There's no big manufacturer behind this push eye racing or you know, a set of course of formula. Like we got a set a set of course uh rally, like you can't tell me that rallies I'm still this is still I'm still bitter about this. It is what it is, but um it'd be awesome to find, you know, if if we if I could find, especially if I'm when I move to the if I can find a you know a league that does this every week at the track that the F1 is that I think that'd be badass.

Jason: 44:16

That was uh that was my that was gonna be one of my questions to you. Was um, it looks like they have it set up for a league to run it and use the package to run it. There's gotta be a Discord out there that's running these races. There's gotta be. And if you guys know, let Jeff know and let myself know because I'm about to buy this thing because I didn't even know about it. I think I've heard like different YouTubers or or creators that they run seasons on on a settle using mods, but I never looked looked into uh, you know, not like this, not like in this detail. And it's a small price to pay, honestly. This is actually cheaper than because a settle course uh we mentioned it here, but Black Friday's coming. You can get the ultimate version for like $4.99.

Jeff: 45:12

Yeah. And to that, you know, if I could pile in just a couple more.

Jason: 45:17

Yeah, go ahead.

Jeff: 45:18

So AI racing is is the best AI racing you're gonna get with formula. I mean, it's blows the blows the socks off of Formula or F1 23, 24, 25, right? Blows it away. Uh i Racing, if you want to race the Formula, the W13, it's gonna be Mercedes cars the whole way. You're not gonna get like the experience of like, oh shit, Lando, you know, the Mercedes, the McLaren with Lando is next to me because you get his helmet and you get a different McLaren with um uh Oscar Piastri's helmet, you know, like it's that level of detail. It's cool. Get the sparks, you know, flying. It's it's just the best you're gonna get. Um, and two, Jason, one more pile on to this content manager. Whoever designed content manager is a freaking genius because you don't have to be like, it's not uh like, hey, download it, put it into this specific folder in a set of course that's you know, you know, a set of coursa, content, cars, tracks, you know, all this other shit. No, you just take the file you downloaded, drag it onto the content manager page, let go, it sees it, get installed, it is done. Idiot proof. I mean, it's smart, Jeff's Jeff proof. I mean, it's just nice.

Jason: 46:27

Um, uh I would uh if you're gonna go content manager, you need to get pure. That's the other two.

Jeff: 46:34

Yep.

Jason: 46:34

So I'll leave links to all of them. Maybe we'll do an episode. I think it's that, I think it's about that time because uh settle CSP has been getting a shit ton of changes, and you can download CSP, you can buy it for ten dollars, I think, and well it's yours forever, it's yours forever.

Jeff: 46:55

There's no subscription. Yep, as they come, it's what it's in, it's it's great. It's I I actually support the dev though.

Jason: 47:04

You know, what's that the the dev that developed it? I I support him on Patreon. The guy's got like 70,000 patrons, bro. If I was to multiply that by one dollar a month, it's pretty simple now.

Jeff: 47:20

We don't think we need to do it every time.

Jason: 47:22

I'm doing something really wrong here. Yo, just think about it, you know, that guy, and I think he's a creator out of Russia, uh Russia, excuse me. So, you know, thank God for him because the game's alive because of that guy. If you were to play regular vanilla acetyl Corsa, forget. No, what do you mean by that? I don't think Jeff has ever tried vanilla acetyl corsa. I did, I clicked the wrong icon once. You did what is this? What is this? I didn't even know what it was.

Jeff: 47:52

I was like, I didn't install this game.

Jason: 47:56

He's so spoiled, bro. You got it good though. I'm glad. I'm glad that it's here. You know, and and you know what? You know, Acetal Corsa, we mentioned it a few times on the show. It is the sim. It is the sim, your forever sim. That sim will never be uninstalled on my machine.

Jeff: 48:16

Never agreed.

Jason: 48:18

Never, it'll never, I will always go back to it to I do my drifting there. I drive around Tokyo in there, um, on the highways. You got rally racing there too.

Jeff: 48:30

How many cars do you think are in Content Manager?

Jason: 48:33

I don't know, but I have over a thousand cars. Yeah, it's stupid. I have like 600 gigs just on the set. Freaking that thing is taking up a lot of hard drive space, and I don't want to get rid of it because that's a lot of time. You know, it's like you said, it's very easy to install, but it takes time to build up and find the servers and get the files and get them in and find tweak your, you know, uh, the shaders patch. Yeah, it's part of the fun because you kind of like, oh shit, I found this this new car pack. I'm gonna check it out, and it's free, you know. Most I don't think I've ever paid for a mod there, other than the RSS cars, which are highly, highly, highly worth it. And they're like a couple bucks, two bucks, three dollars. Yeah. And now we have a pack like this that usually when things are excuse me, usually, usually when things are paid like this, they kind of uh make sense why they would be, right? So, you know, usually the developer they go out, they go out of their creators, they go out of their way to keep these packages up to date, too, because you gotta look at it that way. But very interesting. I'm I'm glad you brought this up. We'll leave links below. And hey, give it give us a shout out if you guys are using this. And if you know, you know, if you know anybody that's hosting these on Discord, would love to check them out and and and put it up here and maybe do a race or two, huh? Absolutely, yeah, it'd be awesome. Be fantastic. All right, so I think that's about it for today, right? Uh yeah, we're quick, man. Good stuff today. Yeah, good stuff. Uh, we had a track of the week. I don't think we're gonna have time for it today. Keep that one. We'll we'll we'll push it to next week's, but uh a little slow on the news um this week. You know, the expos happened.

Jeff: 50:35

I think everybody was wrapped catching their breath between now and like black.

Jason: 50:40

Preparing their wallets, bro, because Christmas is coming, and you gotta think about the rest of the family too. Yes.

Jeff: 50:49

So I did see um uh cubic got it sent an email out today for all their distro, and it was like, hey, understand we've been gone for a while, we're back. Here's all some updates to read about. We'll get back to you when we get we catch our breath.

Jason: 51:02

It was like Yeah, they're taking a break, yeah.

Jeff: 51:04

Yeah, I mean, because they've been hopping, right? You know, they've been all over the place, especially, you know, the expo just wrapping up, and everybody, all the better in the industry is probably just coming back and catching their breath for a minute.

Jason: 51:14

So yeah, being away from work is not easy, and then holidays are coming in, people are taking vacation or holidays, they call it in the UK, or there's a lot of people taking break, you know. This is the time, you know. I usually I'm probably headed down that same route, which you guys will never know about. You'll get an episode every Monday. Um, but I'll still I'll still let you know, I'll give you hints that if I'm gone or something, but yeah, um we'll we'll keep you up to date with as much as we can. We're still waiting on the Simicube 3 reviews to come out. I decided to hold off, and it's there's only three creators out there that have them. And last I've heard, they don't have access to the software, or maybe they do at the time of this recording. Um, at least the people that I trust and care about, they do not. So interesting.

Jeff: 52:14

I I noticed Dan Suzuki dropped the VNM video and out of my I was gonna say it, and what was the title of his caught of that video?

Jason: 52:23

I think it was uh his new main or his main new favorite or something. Oh my favorite. It's a VNM base, and yeah, I've heard good things about VNM shifters and also their bases, but it was news to me that that that base supports uh telemetry force feedback and it has pass-through built in for any wheel without the need to buy a $200 QR. Their QRs are $35. How much? $35. $35 USD. What an idea. So, well, okay, right?

Jeff: 53:07

You get what you pay for.

Jason: 53:09

We have to, we we have to, you know, we have to see what it is. Right. Telemetry feedback, or they call it what are the he called it something. He called it like click or tick. I think it's called tick. They call it tick or something like that. Crucify me. Go ahead, come after me if if I'm wrong.

Jeff: 53:28

But we'll get it straightened out eventually.

Jason: 53:30

We'll get it straightened out, but it's very interesting. I can't wait to hear his thoughts because I don't have the hardware, Jeff and I. We don't we don't we only have one base, so can't pretend to talk about numbers here. But I'm interested. I'm interested on what the market's doing. Um 32 newton meters of force, still less than the cost than a simicude three. Very interesting stuff happening. Um, but yeah, I think that's it, Jeff. Um, you have anything else? Any uh save rounds or round tables or anything like that?

Jeff: 54:06

Nah, dude.

Jason: 54:07

I am uh I'm probably gonna get in here and spin some laps with simracing makes you what's the five uh F1 update. Okay. Alrighty. Well, thank you so much, Jeff. I appreciate you always, Jason.

Jeff: 54:22

Good seeing you, buddy.

Jason: 54:24

Yeah, good always good talking to you and to all you viewers and listeners out there. Have a great start of your week. Thank you.