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From Controller to 4K iRating: Jared Bridwell's Sim Racing Journey

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What separates elite sim racers from the rest of us? In this revealing conversation with Jared Bridwell, a 4K iRating driver from Impact SimSport, we uncover the journey, mindset, and techniques behind high-level sim racing performance.

Jared walks us through his evolution from playing Forza with a controller in 2017 to competing in elite iRacing leagues today. Unlike many who jumped into sim racing during the pandemic, Jared's organic path through Assetto Corsa and into iRacing showcases the dedication that preceded his current success. His hardware journey—from a Thrustmaster T300 bolted to a wooden platform to his current aluminum rig with Simucube direct drive and Asetek Invicta pedals—mirrors the progression many aspiring racers follow.

Most valuable are Jared's insights on technique and improvement. Rather than focusing on late braking, he emphasizes mastering corner exits first and maintaining consistent mid-corner speeds. "Don't push the car into the corner because it's going to overheat," he advises, revealing the counterintuitive approach that helped him climb to 4K iRating. His emphasis on self-honesty and data analysis cuts through the excuses that hold many racers back.

Beyond driving, Jared represents the engineering side of sim racing, designing and 3D-printing custom steering wheels based on Picorny Engineering designs, with plans to develop button boxes and display units. This DIY spirit exemplifies how sim racing bridges various skills—from driving technique to engineering and fabrication.

Whether you're struggling to break 2K iRating or pushing for elite status, Jared's practical advice on hardware investments (pedals before wheels!), racing mentality, and community engagement provides a roadmap for improvement. Listen now to gain insights from someone who's made the journey from casual gamer to elite sim racer through dedication, skill, and a constant pursuit of improvement.

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Jason:

This episode is brought to you by Trophyai. We discuss all things in the sim racing world. I'm your host, jason Rivera, and I'm joined here by Mr Jeff Smart and Jared Ridwell, a driver from Impact SimSport. How's everyone doing today?

Jeff:

Dude.

Jason:

Good how you doing Awesome fellas.

Jeff:

Great seeing you, jared. Welcome to the studio, jason. Good seeing you buddy, ready to knock this discussion out. We've got some good stuff today to talk about.

Jason:

Hell yeah. So we met Jared at at the at the sim gaming expo, and we saw the skills this man's putting out, so I figured it'd be a nice idea to have him on the show and and he obviously felt the same way. So, uh, a huge warm welcome to to jared here. Uh, let me know how you're doing this week, man. How's it's it going?

Jared:

Yeah, first of all, thank you guys for having me on this week. I've just been prepping for Evra, so I've just been in the rig any free time. I have just got out, still maybe a little sweaty, but yeah, it's been good.

Jason:

Okay.

Jeff:

That's. You know there was a funny. I just want to bring it up because it was worthwhile. We were talking a little bit before we went on air and Jared was like, yeah, sorry, I don't have, you know, these nice cool backgrounds. You know, like you do, and we're like this, this is all for show. And then we're like I would happily trade this background for the skills for your, some of your skills. So the skills, bro, no no funny man, this is all flash. This is all flash, no skill.

Jason:

Yeah, it's kind of like golf, right? You know, you have this golfer that has this used set of golf clubs and they're all rusted up, and you have this expensive, shiny, freaking, $700 driver and you can barely break 100. Yeah, and here comes this guy. Boom. You're like damn man, what am I doing? I?

Jeff:

like to say, though I might not be the fastest, but I have the most fun.

Jason:

Yeah, we've always said that, Yep, that's gospel, right there, gospel. So I will say this guys, before we move any further Welcome, jared to the show. Mr Eric Kelly unfortunately could not make this one, so we will see him hopefully in the next episode. Um, and with that, uh, we will get in right into it, man. So, jared, welcome again. Tell us about your journey into sim racing, man. How did you find it? You know, what was your first rig and what did you start with and how did? How did? How did things? You know, how did things morph over time? You know, give us a timeline of history there so it all started, I think, like 2017.

Jared:

Um, I was playing forza with a controller, as most people you know, kind of get into it. Um, and then somehow, jimmy broadband came up on my youtube feed. I kept watching his nervergreen laps with on a set of corsa. I was like, oh, I have, he's got a wheel and everything you can get that it has force feedback. So I had to. I got on Amazon that night and ordered, like I think it was a thrust master like T 300 or something, okay, like one of the belt driven ones, and I, uh, made like a little wooden rig. Um, just started ripping on a set, of course, of doing hot laps and stuff. And then what was it? Two, three years later, I ended up finding out about iRacing. Kind of got into that. Struggled at first, you know, but through time, so what?

Jeff:

year? Are we talking that you picked up iRacing?

Jared:

20, like it was right before the pandemic. So like close to the end of 2019, I want to say okay, so we have an og sim racer here, so good time someone. That's not a free time yeah, someone that just didn't.

Jason:

We had a covid pandemic and then we're like well, I guess I'm starting to sim racing now, but guilty as charged, yeah same same both, both here. Oh, that's what's up, man. So you mentioned a subtle course.

Jared:

I'm assuming the original subtle right yep, yeah, I've played too much of the acc or, I guess, the new ones since this came out.

Jeff:

I haven't even seen it yeah, I haven't even seen it I'm as fast as you are, I racing.

Jared:

I sure wouldn't either I feel so out of touch with all the updates and everything.

Jason:

I'm just you hammer down on I racing. Now you found, uh see, the thing is the grids on iRacing. You know, I've always said it here on the show and we interviewed Nim Cross. If you haven't seen that, jared, you should check that episode out and and for to all our listeners as well, if you haven't. Um, that man broke it down and he really made me love the sim more right Than what I had, than the love that I found for it in the first place, because and I'll keep this very short but we got into iRacing because Jeff wanted to do Formula Racing and I said, jeff, you should get on iRacing, because F120, whatever it was, they're all the same, it's just not going cut it, you know, for realism. And then I ended up racing with him and then I kind of stuck with it and here I am.

Jared:

So and we live in hawaii too. So grids here are like impossible almost oh yeah, that's fair, but a set of courses like what is it? 11 bucks on steam, all the mods for it, someone content manager oh yeah, content manager, that's if you're looking to get that's all you need, bro. That's all you need that's all you need, and there's tons of leagues for it too.

Jason:

So you know, if you reach out in the community, find some I'm part of the nation or the tog, something I used to drift there with all those guys, man, and that's like I don't know. I don't don't know how many thousands of people on that server alone, and it's crazy, you know, rob Markman.

Jeff:

I mean you could argue that some of their mods for F1 are the best there are. You know, I'm a big Formula guy open wheel and some of those you know, for like $8, you get a car and the skins, rob Markman, oh, the RSS ones, right, those things are are.

Jason:

yes, they come with a manual and everything, and they tell you how the car, how do you got, how you start the car, how do you mess with it? That is next level stuff, man. I mean we did some, we gave content managers some love on the show, but I think we need to do it like a real uh breakdown here.

Jeff:

But um, you get the online, the discord servers. I mean, we can go on and on and on. Oh man's on there.

Jared:

But this is cool because it's $11. It's $11 on Steam.

Jason:

We have a pro driver here, that's wild that didn't start on iRacing, because most of them either start on iRacing or they start on a different, like you are very. You got me intrigued now. So if we're ready to, so you started with a setup. What about your rig? If we're ready to, so you started with a settle. What about your rig? You said you made. You mentioned the, the thrust master on a on a wooden setup.

Jared:

And how did that change? Man, walk, walk us through. Yeah, it was a really rough first setup. It was kind of just a desk like big enough for the T300. I think it's. I think that's what it was. But I'd set it in front of my tv and just on xbox play a set, of course, and uh, rip the nerver green and eventually I got a um, I think it's a next level racing rig okay that was.

Jason:

That was a step up um is that the one that had the, the leather seat on it? Yeah, and I had the same rig, did you really? It was like a thousand dollars or something like that no, is this a fold one?

Jared:

no it was it was a stationary, but it was. I mean, it was only a couple hundred bucks no mine, was a thousand.

Jason:

It had had caster wheels on it. Oh, mine wasn't that nice, okay. Okay, we're talking 2019. Yeah, so probably, this was probably way back then. Um, so, then you. So then you change to that and yep, and is is that, what is that what we're running still today? Or what are we running today?

Jared:

sir. Um, so right now I have the tony kanon from you know special from micro center. Um, it's just aluminum extrusion solid, solid rig. I don't really have anything to complain about it. And then I got asetek and victa pedals. I pre-ordered them and then, whenever they came out with the pedals that you could separate, I was so mad because I was like that's, my only complaint is that you can't adjust how far apart they are. Oh, they're fixed yeah, and then semi-cube two there you go.

Jared:

Semi-cube for the win that's the way to go, and then that's the way to go.

Jason:

Thank you, bro, that's awesome.

Jared:

I love semi-cube I love semi-cube too.

Jason:

And then for the wheel, I have a bunch different wheels have you guys heard of uh picorny engineering yes, the, the 3d printed, the ones that you can make yourself, and they're like oh, this guy's legit. Uh, you know, so you've made one yourself.

Jared:

Oh, I've made it. Yeah, I've made a couple of them oh, dude, this is what I'm eventually.

Jeff:

I want to do that.

Jared:

I think that it's so rewarding I mean you can if you're really doing it right. Uh, you can end up putting a lot of money into it.

Jason:

Defeats the purpose if you're doing it right. Yeah, use a straight dump. I mean, we got 3D printing machines now and that was kind of what motivated me to. I think Jeff too I mean Jeff and I, we were always looking at damn man, if I can just print this, then maybe we can just order the circuit board and just put it all together, right, yep, and you know you can yeah, go ahead, you can learn to make your own circuit boards.

Jared:

You know, for that kind of stuff, the button boxes, it's super easy.

Jason:

KeyCAD's free, which is a CAD software for making circuit boards, which is something I've been learning how to do, so I'll tell you this. I know this interview is about Jared, but I have to shout him out here.

Jeff:

Jeff's son has taken Tinkercad to another level, where jeff, I need to let you have this you need. Yeah, so I'll just, man, I think, once a week I give. So I taught him how to use a micrometer, um, some calipers, um in, uh, in millimeters, because we didn't go into inches, because you know it's seven. Fractions are difficult. I hate fractions.

Jared:

Yeah, yeah, even at like I don't know why we use fractions, bro, so I give them.

Jeff:

I just give a random object like a mug, and I'll say, go upstairs, and you know, and he runs up the stairs and I'm like, oh, we're gonna have peace and quiet for like two hours, dad, I'm done. And I'm like 20 minutes later and we measure it. He gets it down to like you know the millimeter, you know the diameter is where the handle is. Yeah, so he loves it. It's the way of the future. These kids now like elementary school, middle school kids, now that's, they're gonna live a different life yep, no, cad's super important to learn.

Jared:

I mean, you can do so much stuff with it, like a lot of the stuff I have on my rig I've I've built Like I mean, how are you going to mount your USB hub? How are you going to mount your power strips? So we're friends now right, jared, we're friends.

Jason:

Right Because we're going to ask for some STLs.

Jared:

You know maybe oh yeah, no, I have tons man and I'm working on making some button boxes. This is so cool man.

Jared:

I love this community. Look at this. You know this is so cool. We'll do it whenever I start making button boxes and get those finished. Admittedly, I've been working at DDU for about a year but the USB hub circuitry in it because it has a vocore, it's been taking a bit too long because I'm not an electrical engineer, I'm just some guy with CAD and YouTube. But whenever I get the button boxes done I'll send you guys something. You guys can test them out that would be awesome.

Jason:

We'll feature them here on the show for sure, if you ever think about putting up like a shop too. We can feature that here as well, all day.

Jared:

So yeah, I, I technically have one now.

Jason:

It's really just a few small things, nothing too serious, we'll drop a link below, of course, man all right if you, if you allow us to do that, and the viewers might be interested and see what you're working on.

Jeff:

Um yeah, I think if it works for like a 4000 I rating iracer, probably works for everybody else. Just that's just a general assessment yeah, 4000 is nothing.

Jared:

uh, yeah, bro, that easy it is kind of the Pokorny engineering approach where I just tell you the 3D files I have build, guides, show you how to put it all together, how to program it. But yeah, eventually I'd like to team up with Simmons by Razors and sell physical products like button boxes, whenever I get to that point in TDUs.

Jason:

Oh, that will be.

Jared:

Eventually steering wheels. That's my next. That's the kind of that's.

Jason:

The goal is to make steering wheels so, before we move on to the next question, uh, we just did a podcast about the debrief of the sim gaming expo and we mentioned this. This is how people begin, um, you know, is is having the idea in your head and the skill set to make something that works for you. And then you find make something that works for you, and then you find out that it works for thousands of other drivers. So I wish you nothing but luck with that and I can't wait to see it. Man, we'll check that out, you know, after we, after we wrap up here. So, jeff, I think you have the next question.

Jeff:

Brother, yeah, so um, you've been in it for what? Six, seven years now doing iRacing?

Jared:

What is your class you race the most? Now it's GTPs. I used to race a lot of GT4s. That's kind of how I got to where I'm at Still a bit behind on my iRacing, if I'm being honest.

Jeff:

So what is it if you don't mind? Just so you can tell the audience. So if people don't know you, don't mind, just so you can tell the audience. So if people don't know you, it's just 4k flat right now, but okay all right it needs.

Jared:

It needs some work because I know I can get to five. It's just. I just need to do officials.

Jason:

That's the biggest thing I I've been doing so many leagues and just yes, yes, right so so I'm, I fluctuate between 1.9, 2k, 1.9, 2k, and then it's kind of like I do more league racing than anything. So I hear you, there's a lot of guys like that that are just low-key.

Jared:

The league racing is so good, it's so respectful, it's more respect. You have your moments, but it's racing, but it just seems to be so clean.

Jason:

It's hard to. Once you catch that that bug, it's hard to get out of. Yeah, because you know the guys there, you know the driving habits, you know the, you know the characters and you get to meet up with them and it's kind of like you're you're, you're meeting up on the track day with them in real life, but you're actually in the sim, that's. That's kind of what it's like. You jump in an official race, you don't know what is, who is next to you, you don't know what's going on, like yep well, you're gonna see them again next week too, right, if it gets.

Jeff:

If you did something you're not proud of, you're gonna make amends before the next week, because you know you're gonna have to see them again yep and the life stewarding and penalties are much better in leagues for the most part.

Jason:

I mean, you know and the name of this league, by the way, since. So we're talking about leagues, so it's ivra um okay and endurance they have a discord and everything that we can link here. Oh yeah, so tell us a little.

Jeff:

I mean, now that we're on here, tell us a little bit about it. So you said it was endurance. You know what? You know what type of uh events you guys doing?

Jared:

so it's classic it's classic, uh, msa style. So gs, lmp2s, gt3s. This is going to be my first time running it and it's kind of a I don't know what the correct adjective is, but kind of prestigious league where to race GTPs you have to be a minimum of 4K iRating and then, even if you are, that doesn't mean you're going to get in the league. So we have qualifying this Saturday and I have to do well enough in qualifying to be able to be in the league.

Jason:

wow, okay yeah, they don't have time for that. You know, gtps are dangerous, bro. That's like those are formula one speeds. You know, basically the same. Yeah, that's what I'm trying to get. I'm trying to talk to jeff to get him in. That too. I'm like, hey man you might like gt. You know, basically the same yeah.

Jared:

That's what I'm trying to get.

Jason:

I'm trying to talk to Jeff to get him in. That too I'm like hey, man, you might like TTP. You know, TTP is crazy.

Jeff:

I don't think the average person, like if you just, you know, like somebody that doesn't do iRacing and they were to watch that event, I don't think they understand the level of commitment and talent that you guys have in there doing that type of stuff. It's just not going to look impressive. You know, like if you look at formula one from an outside perspective, you're like, oh, the guys going, they're fast, but yeah, like once you know a little bit and you're like, dude, no, like that's stupid impressive oh yeah, and there's still guys like that that I look up to.

Jared:

I mean, I've been coaching with jordan johnson and he makes it just seem so easy. I'm just like I don't know how. I don't know how you guys are able to do that. You know what I mean.

Jeff:

Like there's there's so many levels to it yeah that wild jason like yeah, that's crazy we look at jared as like the dude, and then there's a dude that he looks up to as the dude. That's wild.

Jason:

That's usually how it goes. It's just we don't put it together right all the time. But yeah, that's usually how it goes, man. So, now that we're talking about leagues and we're talking about you know, you actually made a drastic move up the chain, right, you went from a settle in the iRacing. Now we find out that you're trying to get into gt, that you're trying to qualify for this gtp league. Um, when, when did when? Did you realize? Hey, I'm, you know, I have pace, I'm good enough to to compete at, you know, at a pro level, like how did that? How did you? How did you realize that?

Jared:

um, honestly, it was uh, back when I was racing gt4s and I don't feel like I'm able to race at like a pro level, like we're pretty good, but, um, everyone says this, but keep going, but uh, I believe it is.

Jeff:

You know, you run into other people. You're like Keep going.

Jared:

We've heard this before. Yeah, daniel Morris, just continue. I believe it.

Jason:

You run into other people and you're like that's the thing about sim racers we don't really brag about ourselves, we brag about other people. We never really brag about ourselves, you know what. I mean. But there's a lot of respect here, so I'll let you continue.

Jared:

I appreciate it. Yeah, like back when I was racing GT4s. You know my teammate back at the time it was a different team, he was like 6K or pushing it. He eventually was 6K but being as close, like I was never on pace with him. I'll just put that out there right now. I was never on pace, but like how close I was consistently to him.

Jeff:

I was like, okay, you know, I might, I might be onto something. So, if you don't mind me, asking from you to him from a four slash five to a six, what is pace? What's the difference in pace?

Jared:

back then. So I think I was 3k to 3.5 okay back then and it was like anywhere from two and a half tenths to half a second, sometimes more. I mean sometimes, you know, I had my bad days. He never had his bad days. But okay.

Jason:

So a tenth to me is to me, because all right, let's compare right. Look at Formula One drivers. We as fans, we give them a hard time, especially Lance Stroll that's my favorite one, especially Lance Lowe that guy is. But then you can't. When you look at the time board and they're literally split by tenths of a second and you're telling me that you're a tenth slower in some corners or whatever, on some tracks or whatever, that tells me that you have the pace of a 6K driver that you have it.

Jared:

Well, I wouldn't say that I think I can get to 5K Come on man.

Jason:

You need to give yourself a little more credit, bro. That's how I feel about it.

Jared:

I need to start doing officials, more officials, and I think my confidence will boost up.

Jason:

It's hard to stand out in iRacing because the higher you go, when something happens on the track they penalize you hard. I have a friend that's part of our SRC team. He's a 4K like yourself and whenever he hits a streak of two races there'll be a bad race. Somebody hit him and they take 120 iR for him. Like, like, like that, like in a snap and like, damn, it's like that and it's like, yeah, dude, if you, it's really hard to maintain that number. You know, the higher you go, so I had that happen recently.

Jared:

I was at uh road atlanta and I was like I was up to like 4.2k and then one race. It was just cold tires. Someone just spun in front of me, didn't have anywhere to go and just into the race lost like 130.

Jeff:

Well, that Right, because I-rating help me out here, because I-rating doesn't see your safety rating. It just sees flat out from where you started to where you finished in your strength of field.

Jason:

Grid positioning Yep.

Jeff:

That's all. It is Binary number. Yep, you started to where you finished in your strength of field grid positioning yep binary number.

Jason:

Yep, like you're expected to do, so well if your strength of field is at level, at your level you need the field is two.

Jeff:

Yeah, mine's like two, seven thousand four.

Jason:

Stop it. No, it's way too low. But you know what I'm saying? Your strength of field. It determines where the strength of field right, the strength of everybody's eye rating and their safety. So there's a certain expectation from you to be placed somewhere. It doesn't matter how good you quality, it doesn't matter how safe you were, they're going to hammer you if you don't do well in the race. That's what happens at the higher end of the spectrum. If you're not on the podium, bro, we're taking those numbers away from you. Don't deserve it. I kind of like that, though, because that means when you meet somebody that is a 9K driver, which I've met before, 7k, 8k, which I've met before 7K, 8k that's a lot of dedication to have that number and to keep it. You know it's like a champion, right, it's like boxing. You can be the heavyweight champion, but if you don't defend your title, you're nothing. You know what I mean, and as soon as somebody knocks you out, they're taking all the titles away. Everybody forgets about you.

Jared:

Yep, like the guy who I'm getting coaching from Jordan johnson. He's um, I think he's like 8.2, 8.3 right now, but he was. He was telling me about um racing officials and he was like, yeah, if I don't get first or second, I'm losing in some races. Like if I don't win, I lose I rating.

Jeff:

Yep, yeah, so let me ask, kind of dovetailed onto this when you walk in, when you, you know, when you roll into an official, do you have? I don't want to say you probably don't know any different people race you harder? Because, I see it, I look, I'm like oh shit, like that's a 4k dude. I want to try to keep up. I want to. You know, uh, you know, I want to compete with him. You know, people kind of race beyond their skill level. Uh, well, I don't, I don't know how to, unless you're racing only a classes, you know. If you're not, you know, dabbling into the lower classes well, usually no, no, no.

Jared:

I don't like the a classes honestly, like c and d has some amazing racing, but, um, no, it's kind of just interesting skill. If you can just get away, you're fine, because there's usually that gap between, kind of the midfield and the front of the field and if you can just pull away, if you're able to, you just get away that first lap, keep it clean hell yeah, man, that's what's up with all the all the smurfs.

Jared:

It makes it kind of hard to answer that question honestly, because you'll have, you know, 1.6k guy who's like on your butt and you're like, oh god, yeah, you don't know you.

Jason:

You never know, dude, who's out there. That's, that's, that's facts. Like you go into a rookie race and you expect nothing but rookies to be there, and then you find this freaking, yeah yeah this monster in there. You're like what's going on, what are we doing? Yep, all right. So that kind of sums up your path right up to the. You know your path to 4k and and how to maintain it, so we'll move on right. Uh, jeff, I got the next one.

Jared:

Yeah, go ahead, I got one more thing to kind of add to that. Yeah, yeah, go ahead. I feel like the racing gets cleaner as you move up. I feel like that when you're trying to get to that 2K, it's so like I'm willing to risk it all, whereas those top guys, they don't want to crash. You can't finish first if you don't finish.

Jeff:

This is good to know.

Jason:

It is a bit cleaner so this is a good for me. Right, because I'm in the 2k zone and I have people sending, sending cars. Still they're relatively safe. Right, because they're fast. You know the problem. The problem with the lower tier uh I rating is their braking points are off and you can easily smash the back of the car because you're not expecting him to break this early. It's like this is way too early. You know what I mean, at least where I'm at, the braking is predictable and we can drive pretty close together at speed. But yes, we have those unsung heroes, the, the, you know the crazy, the crazy guy that wants to win the race at all costs those dudes that drive fast and break late.

Jeff:

There you go, those guys the sickos.

Jared:

We call them the sickos, yeah I think what helped me get from three to four k was just realizing if, if you just let this guy go like he's being way too aggressive, I'm just gonna let him go sit behind him. He's gonna make a mistake eventually. You know he's over, way too aggressive, I'm just going to let him go sit behind him. He's going to make a mistake Eventually. You know he's overdriving his car, just do just sit back, like you don't have to race someone corner for corner. Like just let them pass. They're going to make a mistake Cause they're driving like crazy, so just pay.

Jason:

They're overheating the tire there. The car is quickly and yeah, you, just you get to watch them. You know, lose it and get them right there I don't know especially especially at the end of the race.

Jared:

You know their tires. Yeah, you get them right there.

Jason:

The tires are cooked, bro. You're like oh okay, I see you struggling now. Yeah, that's what's up, man. So all right, we'll move on to the next one, man it's good, so this kind of ties into that.

Jeff:

So, uh, what's something that you would tell? You know the average racer that's looking to improve their I rating or just get faster to focus on.

Jared:

Stop overdriving, stop focusing so much on breaking points I mean not breaking points, but the entry of a corner really nailed down, the exit and mid speed like the minimum speed of the apex. If you can get that down down, the braking just going to be what it is. Don't try and push the car into the corner because it's going to overheat and I do this, I'm still, you know, working on this um but you'll overheat your front so you won't have that mid, uh, mid corner speed and you'll lose. On exit, you know your lines gonna be messed up because you you slam the brakes way too late.

Jason:

So there you go, guys. We got some free professional advice here, yeah so hey, listen, I got the man here.

Jeff:

I'm gonna ask a couple follow-up questions so I can get past here. Everybody else could take a commercial break here, but I want to. So you're talking about, you know, the apex. You know, find the ape, the speed that you can take the apex at fastest. Is that what you're you're really talking about here?

Jared:

It's making sure, like optimizing your exits, first and foremost, with the correct line and then kind of working that speed up until you're on the limit while still getting those perfect exits, and then you can work on the braking.

Jason:

I agree with jared. Sometimes it's better to sacrifice a corner to get the better exit and point the car straight. That way you can get quicker on the throttle. That's what. That's basically what he's saying. Um, well, it's. It's great to talk about it, jeff, but we don't always do that right.

Jeff:

I have the best intentions I've got the best we know this, right, jared.

Jared:

You're like yeah, I know this is still something that I do. I'm still like, hey, dude you're, you're overdriving the car right now. Like reel it back in yeah, I'll, yeah, I'll lift and coast. If I'm, if I'm catching it I mean not in officials, but like if and during practice I'll notice I'm like, all right, you're gonna. You're just gonna coast into the corner and just focus on the exit get that muscle memory down.

Jason:

Okay, this is great advice, and you know what it's, advice that I agree with a hundred percent, because we talk about dry fast and break late. But you know, we you want to tug and cheek.

Jason:

Yes, it's give and take Right, but I guess we'll move on to the next one which I have here, and now that we got your history down, um, we know where you came from and now we get to talk about the fun stuff you know tell us about, uh, team impact, sim sport, like how does what tell us everything about it?

Jared:

so everything they're probably gonna to hate me. I'm a bit new to the team, so keep that in mind. But we do a lot of leagues and special events is kind of the main thing.

Jason:

Okay.

Jared:

I don't know if you met him. Corbin Lenaway is our team boss. We had a booth at the Expo. I might have. I thought I saw that shirt, dude, we were all over the place at the expo I mean so much fun.

Jason:

Yeah, it was amazing, dude, but I'm pretty sure we did. I think we, I think we did shake hands at one point.

Jared:

Yes, yep, kind of a. He had the glasses blonde. Kind of ugly looking guy, shots, fired shots fired no, he was. Uh, he was actually rooming with me at at the expo.

Jason:

So we, we bumped I like this guy bro so jared, you're good on my book bro so now now I can say I was with the team boss?

Jared:

no, he's, he's a good guy, you know we're straight, uncut and unfiltered in here.

Jason:

I hope you know this is good, I was I was.

Jared:

I was hoping I would stay in like they'll get a good laugh out of that yeah, good, good, but um, no, I actually came over.

Jared:

Um, I've raced on a different team with one of the guys that we came over with who was doing the um, the gt3s, the gt3 race okay, I'm blanking on the name of it but um, him and I came over and then it's just kind of it's been, it's been nice because I was on a european team before and the time zone difference, like you know, you'd come home, get off of work and everyone be asleep and you're just like, all right, I'll practice alone. So being on an american-based team is is really nice, like I mean, we had like 10 guys on there earlier, just practicing yeah it was a lot of fun.

Jason:

Group group practicing is the best. It's the best because you, when you're by yourself, you have no one. It's kind of like when you go to the gym, right, you go to the gym and you want to. You want to be an athlete, you want to not an athlete, you want to be a bodybuilder, but you don't have a spotter to push you more, to get you to do more. You you're just going to drive your comfort, drive your laps and then that's it. But when you have people, you see that lap times they're doing. You're like man, what am I doing?

Jared:

I got another 10th in me.

Jason:

There you go, yes there, it is right there, exactly. That's awesome yeah.

Jared:

I hate seeing number two, so how did you find?

Jason:

them? How did you find them? I know you, you came from a european team, right, yeah? And how did you end up with uh, with team impact, like how did you? Did you apply for it or did they find?

Jared:

you, or not really. So I think d mills, uh, one of the guys, the guy that came over with, uh, daniel mills, he knew corbin in some way and he was like, hey, we got a bunch of Americans that are looking for a new team. Okay, they're kind of that eye reading you're looking for. And yeah, yeah just just kind of happened to be honest with you, is there a tryout? No, no, not, not for, not for us. Just kind of I got lucky, you know, knowing the right people being in the right place, right time. To be honest with you.

Jason:

Okay, you know I'm a free agent. You know there's no tryout, you know.

Jared:

Let me know Our practice sessions are open. I'm hosting them every single day besides Thursday. Well, I guess it's just tomorrow now, but Thursday, Friday, we have the official practice sessions, but I'll be hosting.

Jason:

Okay, that's cool. Yeah, yeah, do you stream them too?

Jared:

no, I'm dude. I don't have the brain power to read, chat and stream. Yes, you do, bro dude.

Jason:

I I'm dyslexic dude, so I like I have to sit there and I used to feel the same way and then I just kind of learned how to do it. I don't know.

Jeff:

You just read them on the straights bro just try to remain, keep uh trying to get to five thousand, five thousand I read I know I'm reading no tech he's caring about the chat.

Jared:

He's focused on track and then you see, like streamers who are, you know, really really fast just casually just looking over and reading while they're driving, I don't get it.

Jeff:

That's, that's another level okay, I'm already thinking like, hey, he's making me feel good. Now what's my?

Jason:

I'm just not a 4k, though you know not yet not yet.

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Jeff:

So I got to follow on Jason here, so you know what's some of the events that you and your team or you just you in general are focusing on up here coming up in the near future.

Jared:

Ifra is the biggest one.

Jeff:

Um, I've been prepping my ass off for that and I still feel well, tell us a little bit about it if you don't mind, cause not everybody's probably going to know.

Jared:

Um, so it's that, um, that league where you have to be 4k to raise gtps and then oh, oh, oh the one you mentioned earlier.

Jeff:

The tryout one got you yep, so the season starts here soon yep pre-qualifying saturday it's a two-hour race at uh the bend dude, I'm so sorry we're taking time away from you right now doing this recording.

Jared:

You're good. I it's late enough in the evening my mind's kind of gone. I was on for two hours, this like after work, so we're good okay, okay have you guys? Have you guys raced the bin?

Jeff:

I have not. No, no, it doesn't usually come up in formula it is worth the drive.

Jared:

It is so much fun. The bend international it's so much fun okay, I don't know.

Jason:

We might do a track of the week on that too.

Jared:

Okay, that's fair.

Jason:

Take note of that. There you go.

Jared:

But, I don't know how multi-class is going to go on that, I've heard it's. I heard it's all right, but I've also heard it's horrible.

Jeff:

So we'll find out. Yeah, we'll find out soon enough, right, or how does that work out?

Jared:

I think it's about once a month.

Jeff:

Okay, so you get some time to practice on it.

Jared:

Yeah, I mean I'll definitely need it because I'll probably be one of the lowest ranked people in there.

Jason:

Dude, you got to let us know. I need to update the show on how you turned out. We want to know if you made it. If you didn't make it, what's going on? Man, if you want to share, you know, yeah, if you tell me hey, I didn't make it. And, by the way, don't say anything, I'll be like okay.

Jeff:

It'd be cool if you guys stream that.

Jason:

I'd jump in there to watch that.

Jeff:

I would love to watch this man.

Jason:

And the community would probably be ecstatic. I mean, by the time they watch this, you're already qualified, because I'm pretty sure you're going to qualify, I'm pretty sure you're going. That already happened, bro. So when you get to see this, you can be like oh yeah, that's my past self like flipping out or nervous about the event and I had no problem.

Jeff:

When I came in p3, I came in there and I killed it bro, yeah, yep and I passed the shit out of my ugly.

Jared:

Ass. Boss, he's in gt, he's racing gt3, so I'll be passing him good man. Don't hit him, though, for whatever reason, because oh no, and and they, uh, they judge you based on racecraft too. So even if you, you know, finish p5, if you're crashing into the gt3s, you're not going to get invited to the league so okay makes sense, racing matters yeah, it's a big responsibility with the faster car.

Jason:

We've always said that on the show, because there's a slower car and being in the faster car means you can maneuver around the slower car and that's your responsibility with the faster car.

Jared:

That's hands down 100%, and as long as the slow car just stays on its racing line, I'll figure it out.

Jason:

Just if you're a slow car, be predictable when you have a screaming machine behind you do not make any sudden movements, don't try and get out of our way, that's yes, if you're gonna situation this is the same we say. You know and and jeff might recognize if you're wrong, stay wrong. If you're wrong, stay wrong.

Jeff:

Do not try to correct it, because you're gonna I'm used to the guy that's just staying in my lane and yep, yeah, yeah, I'm good at that there's some nasty gtp drivers out there too yeah, man, I would.

Jason:

I mean I can, I can drive them. I'm not sure if I'm fast, fast in them, but I can drive them. And they are scary sometimes when you have slower cars because they're moving so slow, bro, like yeah, it's like a standing still there. There we were on road america. We did a six-hour race and we did the. We took the mustang uh gt3 out and there was freaking gtps there and you know that I don't know the name of the turn or what number it would have been. You know what I'm talking about. That right hand turn that is flat out in a GTP. Oh, turn one. No, it's not turn one, it's after. It's Road America, not Atlanta.

Jared:

Oh, okay, okay, yeah, yeah, I'm thinking of Road Atlanta. I might have said Road Atlanta. You know what I'm?

Jason:

talking about the one after the big, the big, the big. After that big, and then it's a massive straight after that. You know how fast the gtp is going. Yeah, and we're over there like in fifth gear.

Jared:

You guys are like it's. Yeah, it's always frustrating catching a gt3 at that corner too, because you're like I know I can't you can't overtake a lot of time, yeah yeah, and you can't overtake on the inside, that's just reckless. I mean, you can, but you should depend on the situation.

Jeff:

You really he's like you really shouldn't that's super frustrating because you've really, you know, given a lot of time on that lap, lifting over some, because then it's straight into, like you were saying, straight into that, straight away, where you're, oh yeah, sacrificing time. That's frustrating.

Jared:

I can see that sometimes if I, if I know I'm gonna catch him at that corner, I'll just lift coming out of the the uh, previous corner. I don't know what number it is, but that big, long, right-hander Right.

Jason:

So you lift. I mean, that's so what you know. To keep the story quick and short, um, one of our drivers lost the car. It was, you know, and he was literally sideways and a GTP was coming and he was, and a GTP was coming and he was. It was a P1, he was the P1 GTP guy.

Jason:

Yes, bro, and this guy, he sees our car in the middle of the road right and he decides to get off the grass to pass. I don't know why he did. I don't know why he does this, but our driver is thinking I need to get off the race line, right, because I'm on the race line, cars are coming through here, let me back this car up. So we kind of backed into the P1 of a GT. His car flipped a hundred million times. We got a lot of hate mail and, yeah, that was like the story of that race, six hours gone. It's a learning experience. But hearing from you that you would lift, especially knowing when there's a yellow flag, why wouldn't you lift? Why didn't you slow down a little, knowing that there's a yellow flag approaching, which was my? I don't know, but I think that's cool, man. I think that's cool that you acknowledge what I just said, and that's that you hold the bigger responsibility over the other cars because you're in the faster car. That's, that's gospel.

Jared:

A hundred percent.

Jason:

All right, so let's move on to the next question here. Um, you know where do you see most people here? Um, you know where do you see most people you know to have improvement in, like in racing, like where? Where? Give me your honest thoughts. I mean, I know you mentioned about, you know, the, the entering corners and stuff like that, but how do we, how do we get to a 4k, like, how do we do that?

Jared:

you know, I think a lot of it is. It's really hard to do and I still struggle with it. But just being honest with yourself, like, yeah, dude, I, I messed that up Like this is this is why I crashed, you know. Analyze your telemetry data. Data doesn't lie, you know. So look at the telemetry data. Be honest with yourself. Say, hey, I am overdriving this car.

Jason:

I can feel it under right, you know a lot, so and I'm triggering abs when I shouldn't. You know stuff like that. Yeah, I know, if I trigger abs, I know I'm already. I'm already off the off the pace if, if that's happening to me, that's like the indicator first one, I use.

Jared:

So, yeah, and the biggest thing is like when you get in a as far as racecraft goes, it's the same thing, it's just honesty like before you get on the mic and you know, cuss this guy out or send him a nasty message like watch that replay, my favorite part. When they do that, was it really his fault? Because I've had that where I've crashed out and I got so mad. And then you go back and look at the replay. It's like that was actually my fault. That was I. I messed that up, and that accountability is kind of what helps you progress. I think it's a big part of it.

Jeff:

Yeah, I learned that a while. You know, I was like man, what you know, that dude took me out. And then you watch the replay like yeah, you know it wasn't really my corner, was it?

Jeff:

yeah, yeah, it was his corner yeah so I think there's. That's a great point, though I think that there's something to be said about, you know, taking ownership, and I think nim cross really alluded to. I think that there's something to be said about taking ownership, and I think Nimcross really alluded to it. It was like, hey, people need to be, and that's why he's such a stickler for the high cost to safety when you crash.

Jason:

Yep, he was mentioning that too. We had a wreck in a 24-hour event. We did, and it wasn't our fault, but then we didn't. You need to kind of visualize what's happening in front of you, kind of like what you said earlier about being patient. So we saw these two cars doing this and trying to pass each other and we're hammered down behind them and they crashed and we ended up hitting them because there's nowhere to go and it's the Nurburgring, which is a fast. That's a tricky one. Yeah, it's a fast track, you know.

Jared:

Um, so I, I, you know, I appreciate that, that's, that's real talk, is to own yourself. I, I, I a hundred percent agree. Yeah, stay the student you know, stay the student constantly looking for stuff to improve on, cause we we all have stuff we can be better at. So find those things, look for them. Look at your telemetry data, watch your replays. There you go.

Jason:

All right. So, jeff, you got the next one brother.

Jeff:

So speaking of getting faster, practice is obviously clearly very important, but what's one piece of gear that's critical for you to be fast and it's enabled you to be fast okay, that's a great question pedals, pedals, pedals why? Without for those out there, why?

Jared:

um. So with the ace of tech and victors is they're very, very stiff and I feel I never got a real consistency or speed boost from when I got the direct drive wheel. People like to say that I eh, but the pedals allow you to be so much more consistent when you're, instead of with the brake, trying to figure out what position, what angle your foot's at, versus how much force you're putting into it. It's a lot easier to replicate that time and time again and you gain a lot of consistency from that okay so pedals yep, so pedals with the uh strength being the brake pedal.

Jason:

That's, that's where we're, that's where we're fast is the brake pedal, which is hard to say right, but the brake pedal is speed, the brake pedal is your beginner.

Jeff:

It's really hard to understand somebody says, yeah, the fastest thing you do is get a good break they're like what?

Jared:

and? It's more consistency, because once you can shrink that and become way more consistent, you can get up to that limit a lot more often than you can. If you know, you're way out here, I can't even show it on camera, but you guys know what I'm saying, I know what you're saying, brother.

Jason:

All right, so you know, I guess. General question, man, like you've been sim racing for longer than us, where do you see it headed? You know, like we did the expo. The expo was awesome, it was great. It was great hanging out with you. That was like a good time, man, we had it was.

Jared:

You know? Shout out to George too. I have, I can't. I can go on. I could spend a whole hour talking about how good of a guy that is, but I just want to shout out you should have had jared on the debrief man. Yeah, next time.

Jason:

Oh, yeah, yeah did you guys do another debrief. I'll be back there next year too, so oh no, you're a friend of the show already.

Jared:

Trust me that's already been established. I like it yeah.

Jason:

So where do you see the hobby right sim racing headed two to five years, like where do you? What are your overall thoughts on that?

Jared:

um, I've really been enjoying seeing a lot of the formula one guys get. I mean, show you know their experience with sim racing. I feel like it's really going to be a tool to help bridge that pay gap to get into racing, because I mean, yeah, gear is expensive, but you don't, you know, you don't need what I have. Like you can, you know, there's 7k guys who have that crappy thing bolted to a desk, you know, yeah, and I think I think that's going to be the biggest thing is decreasing that pay gap to real world racing, because we can both agree that real real life racing.

Jason:

I know, I know this is sim racing, but real life racing has always had this barrier between do you have enough money to race? Or do you versus the skills to race, because there's a lot of people that could do this, you know, and a lot of people are starting to realize that, oh, it's not just because they're super humans, it's because a lot of people, you know, there's humans that can actually do it more.

Jared:

They just can't afford it, you know, but they can do it you know, yep, exactly so yeah, I had a track bike for a little bit and, dude I, I was young, I every spare penny I had went to going to track days and doing that. But you, just you know you go.

Jason:

So you did, do, you did do track days?

Jared:

yeah, okay, on motorcycles, I had a cbr 600, okay.

Jason:

I have a CBR 600 RR right now in my garage.

Jeff:

I had one, I sold it.

Jason:

There you go, and I used to track it up in California back in the day Okay, what year is it?

Jared:

That's a 13, 2013. That's the same one I had. That's the same one I tracked. See, I love this guy already.

Jeff:

Yeah, good man.

Jason:

That's a good bike, honda.

Jared:

yeah, good man that's a good bike, honda guy too, and it's. It's the tri-color version. You know which one? The red, the red, blue, the red, white, white.

Jason:

I same one I had, I mean, yeah, mine's puerto rican just so you know, it's you know I have to come on, I mean fair enough, you can tell that yours is american, yeah mine's is a little just more obnoxious, you know that's funny it's a lot louder in the morning just because yeah you know, just because it has the flags on there, but uh, yeah, but I put a power commander dude.

Jared:

That's a totally different conversation, bro dude, we could go on about that, yeah but, um, yeah, I moved over.

Jason:

I used to. I started with q1s on that bike and I used to track q3s when they came out. Remember the q3s? Yep, yep, I I ran q3s for a little bit I didn't have a tire and half a day, jeff, there was no more tire left.

Jared:

I had no more I made the expensive mistake of thinking I could use them for two track days, and then no, you cannot, bro, and I mean not, you cannot and I did the crazy thing of trying to go back home with the tire. Yeah, I found out the hard way oh yeah, you go into that corner and the bike just goes. You're like, oh well, shit, I'm sliding now.

Jason:

So I have taping up my lights and stuff I forgot to. I'm on the road and I'm like, oh shit, I'm taking it off.

Jared:

Yeah, yeah good times, bro. I full on. Uh, I did so much. I mean not so much, but I did some weight reduction. I ended up removing the radiator fan. So anytime I was, you know, driving on the street because I took headlights, taillights, turn indicator like it was a full track bike. It was a full track bike, yeah, every time I was track bike, yeah Every time I was, you know, legally riding on the street. Uh, I couldn't sit at stoplights for too long without turning the bike off.

Jason:

Yeah, cause you overheat that to hell bro, hell yeah, all right, so we were down to the last question here and I think Jeff's going to have the the honors here.

Jeff:

Yeah, it's kind of similar to um, you know you? You said you've uh tracked the bike. Um, have you ever been in a real race car?

Jared:

Uh, nope, no, I would, I would like to. Um, I could barely, I really couldn't at the time, but I did somehow afford to do the track bike, um, and know, everything's twice as expensive with a car, if not more. You know, double cylinders, double the wheels, double the brakes. So I've done, I've done and double the cost, if you ever double that yes oh yeah, I mean just rear sets. You know, when you crash a motorcycle the rear sets are. You know what? A couple hundred bucks yeah, they're not bad.

Jason:

yeah, yeah, you can total them a lot easier, though you total bike easier than a car. Yeah, that's true you get some sliders. She might flip around a little bit, but hopefully she doesn't. Yeah, because that's what sliders do. I've seen some bad things, some very sad things, and you're watching it in slow motion. You see the bikes. Oh yeah, ka-ching, ka-ching, ka-ching, ka-ching pinball dude on the track.

Jeff:

I'm like, oh my god, you think you're gonna see. You know kind of to that topic. Do you think you're gonna see more drivers real car, in real life drivers coming up that have the sim experience?

Jared:

oh yeah, 100. I think we're already starting to see that kind of happen. I mean shoot. There's that whole movie about the guy from gran trismo making it into yes, that's real life yeah, yeah, that's real life, it's already happening there's a nascar guy too. The I racing nascar um, yes, I can't remember his name, but I know exactly what you're talking about so wait a minute.

Jason:

Is this a dream of yours? What if you got a shot today? What if some? What car are you jumping into?

Jeff:

if you had a chance to that, you would feel confident enough to get to run some fast laps.

Jason:

Are you getting into? Gtp in real life.

Jared:

Hell. No, I'm not physically fit enough Hell no. No, my neck would be like a wet noodle after two laps, if that. I mean. If I could, I think GT4s, or honestly even the Miatas, would be a lot of fun. Okay, the Miatas. I think just how close the racing is and that it's just, it's hard to beat.

Jason:

I would do.

Jared:

GT4, dude.

Jeff:

But what yeah, but the Miata is a lot cheaper to fix than the GT4.

Jason:

I mean, this is very true. This is very true, and you all love it.

Jeff:

Those Miatas are like. I mean, it's like, yeah, it's aggressive out there.

Jason:

That's something I've seen yeah, that's the school of the hard knocks, bro with those guys. There's a bunch of memes on them too, all over the socials. It's funny, but uh what was your choice? Dude like like last question, like or sorry to cut you, jeff what, what you had something for him for? Jerry, nope go ahead, okay, yeah, so gt4, what was your? So my my favorite is the Mercedes, the Mercedes GT4. I'm a Porsche fanatic, but in GT4, it's a very different story.

Jared:

Which one is yours, merc, by far.

Jeff:

You see Look at this guy, look at this.

Jared:

This is crazy. Yeah, I know it was by far the Merc. I don't know what it was, I felt it just.

Jason:

He might be my brother or son or something in the past. I don't know, who knows?

Jared:

The McLaren was a pretty close second CBR.

Jason:

Merc McLaren. We love McLaren.

Jeff:

Yeah, McLaren's pretty good. I drove the shit out of it for a while.

Jared:

Yeah, it's a good. It felt light yeah not like.

Jeff:

I just liked it. It felt it was very. I feel like it was very pointy yeah, I could just point it, and it would kind of work its way into that direction so you know what yeah, go ahead, you like the mark, I like.

Jared:

I like the mark because I felt like I could rotate on the brakes a bit better than the other ones and I felt like having that adjustability of abs and traction control kind of gave a small advantage to the merc.

Jason:

It's just a smooth ride and you know what made me so. I never used to race gt4s. We had daniel morris on the show a year ago and you can go back and watch that if you want. Um, and he mentioned he's. He's a pro. You know mercedes guy, he's a pro mercedes driver for both, both classes, and he mentioned how smooth it was to turn the wheel, how nice and gentle it is, and then you have the power too. They have that thing sounds amazing too when you get on the gas. So I was like you know what, I'm going to buy it. I talked to Daniel and Daniel's got me thinking about mercedes all day and I drove it on the nurburg for two hours in the rain and she held together like nothing, bro, like nothing. That's when I was like oh, this is it, if I can drive this car in the rain for two hours at night on the nurburg ring uh, you could dude.

Jason:

That's kind of the worst case scenario, right? Yeah, yeah, maybe that, or Monza Monza's pretty bad in the rain too, I don't know. Oof Must be, I don't know if I've raced that in the rain? I don't know.

Jared:

I kind of avoid Monza. Everyone avoids Monza, bro Everyone. And if you play the f1 games. It's what is it? Monaco everybody was avoiding monaco back then, but yeah, oh yeah, it's such a good track and I feel like the racing is really good.

Jason:

It's just that first lap, you know, first two laps, it's just the giant straightaway dude that people just want to send the hell out of the car with cold tires. Yeah, it's no, you know, that's a first gear corner right, with cold tires, first gear, oh yeah, so All right. Well, you know, I'm happy to see the enthusiasm. If it is your dream to become a racer, I really hope that it comes true and I really hope that that you get a shot. And and also I want to wish you good luck on your, your journey into the gtp side of things with the, with the big boys. Um, good luck there. And yeah, this is gonna conclude the interview. Um, thank you so much for you know, making the time. I know it's late over there where you're at um, if we don't. Uh, jeff, do you have any other questions for jared here before we let him go?

Jeff:

no, jared, you got any uh shout outs. You want to give real quick.

Jared:

Yeah, shout out Impact Sims 4. There you go, my website, jbinnovationsorg. I'm going to get some more stuff up on there.

Jason:

So this guy is an upcoming professional slash hardware engineer. I would love to share his links. So, guys, please check him out, give him some love on the socials, check out the things that he's building and the awesome you know community that's you know forming around. We'll also look at this uh league that he's part of and maybe we can even race side by side.

Jason:

We might not be on pace, we might be side by side at at you know at the start, but at least side by side as he's part of, and maybe we can even race side by side. We might not be on pace, we might be side by side at the start, but at least Be side by side as he's about to go. He might be lapping us a few times.

Jeff:

I'll be shoulder to shoulder for a thousandth of a second.

Jason:

I'll take a screenshot when you're done, but don't worry, I'll just take a screenshot. There's Jared Look I'm in front of him no, shocked. There. There's jared look I'm in front of him no way. So yeah, I just wanted to. I just want to thank you and it was a pleasure meeting you at the at chicago and yeah, man, I wish you the best in everything that you decide to do.

Jared:

Brother so I did. I appreciate it and thank you guys so much for having me on. I mean, it felt weird at the end. You're like man, I'm going to have you on. I was like me, yeah, you.

Jason:

So yeah, I really do appreciate you guys, everybody's got a story and the Chicane Podcast does not categorize people. You know that way. You know, we've had professional drivers here, we've had sim racers here, we've had CEOs on the show. Everybody, everybody deserves their. Everybody has their story, as Jeff says. Everybody has their story, as Jeff says, everybody has their stories, and always interesting to hear. And Chicane Podcast is all about the community. For the SimRacer anyway, that is it's number one priority. And with that, guys, thank you so much. Jeff shout out to Mr Kelly could not make it today, but I'm pretty sure he would love to be here to talk to guests. He loves doing that. So, jared, good luck with everything and thank you so much again for making the time. And to all you viewers and listeners out there, have a great start of your week, thank you.

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