The Chicane Podcast

Surviving 24 Hours of Nürburgring

• Track Ghost Sim Racing • Episode 59

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Crossing the finish line after 24 hours at the Nürburgring isn't just completing a virtual race – it's checking off a major bucket list achievement in sim racing. Jason shares the rollercoaster journey of his team's participation in the iRacing 24 Hours of Nürburgring, from the dramatic first-lap collision that sent them to the back of the field, through night stints where drivers pushed their limits, to the emotional finish at P32.

The camaraderie forged through shared struggle becomes evident as Jason recounts how the seven-driver team managed the grueling schedule, with some members taking on multiple three-hour stints. The physical and mental challenges were substantial – from attempting to sleep while "dreaming about corners" to maintaining focus during foggy morning conditions after being awake for nearly 24 hours. A surprise visit from iRacing Chief Engineer Nim Cross to their livestream added another memorable dimension to their experience.

Meanwhile, drama unfolded elsewhere as prominent team Redline faced disqualification after attempting to exploit a technical loophole with wet tires at the race start. The podcast also explores exciting developments in the sim racing world, including Xiaomi's partnership with GT7 introducing their remarkable 1,525hp SU7 Ultra EV, and Sony's entertainment-focused Afeela electric vehicle. The episode concludes with impressive viewer-submitted sim racing rigs, including an ingenious folding triple-monitor setup that demonstrates the creativity within the community.

Whether you're a dedicated sim racer looking to tackle endurance events or simply curious about what drives people to spend 24 virtual hours at the world's most demanding circuit, this episode offers unique insights into the passion, challenges, and satisfaction that come from pushing boundaries in the digital racing world. Ready to add a 24-hour endurance race to your own bucket list?

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Jason:

This episode is brought to you by Trophyai. We discuss all things in the sim racing world. I'm your host, jason Rivera, and I'm joined here by Mr Eric Kelly and Jeff Smart. How's everybody doing today?

Erick:

Doing good man Over here trying to stay dry and getting ready for this new heat wave coming through. But outside of that we're doing good.

Jeff:

It's that summer in the South starting up.

Jason:

Yes, sir, it is here.

Jeff:

Another week down, another week closer to the Expo, let's go. This is correct. It's like that start where you can like see it in the horizon and you're like, dude, it's almost like you can almost start a countdown. But we're kind of there, right. I don't want to wish the summer away but there he goes it's kind of like right there.

Jeff:

I mean it's is. Is it any really different for us out here not to you know, uh, flex on the, on the, the weather, but uh it it's kind of 82 to 85 year round, maybe just rains a day or two, see extra.

Erick:

See y'all done. Went down to Hawaii and got soft.

Jeff:

Y'all don't know what it is anymore, 100%.

Jason:

Yeah, man, 70 degrees and below is cold. That's too cold, I ain't going outside?

Jeff:

Yeah, I am not going outside, man. That's too cold, I ain't going outside.

Jason:

Yeah, I am not going outside, man. That's what's up.

Erick:

Well, bring your parka. Huh, I said, make sure you bring a parka in Chicago then.

Jason:

Oh yeah, I'm ready, Look I'm rocking one right now. This is what I'm going to be rocking over there. Well, who knows, I'll probably I, jason.

Jeff:

We'll get to wear a hoodie and stuff. Hoodie and jeans and stuff. I haven't worn jeans in. I don't even know the last time I wore jeans.

Jason:

Don't close it Brand new right now. It looked like you just bought them.

Erick:

Oh man, I'm jealous.

Jason:

Eric? How was your week, brother? What's going on with you over there, man?

Erick:

My week went good, man. I did get to watch y'all's race, the 24-hour Nurburgring. I feel bad calling a race, because it's almost like a torture test.

Jason:

That was 24 hours of hell. That's what that was.

Erick:

Y'all made it look easy, man, but it inspired me. I know we talked a little bit before. I had not purchased the Nurburgring in iRacing yet, and so I actually went ahead and bought it and went ahead and wrapped, you know, ran the car to a couple of walls and stuff like that, just to get things going, man.

Jason:

Yeah.

Erick:

I have not completed a lap yet without destroying the car, but but yeah it's. It's given me something I can tell it's going to be something I do in my spare time, just trying to get better. I'll tell you what that's a good track.

Jason:

to straight up, it has everything to practice on. If you could push there, you could push anywhere. In my opinion, it has something. Maybe it doesn't have the tight chicane into another chicane, like slow speeds, but it's a very, very, very fast track, bro.

Erick:

And when you do it for 24 hours, bro, you start seeing stuff I can't imagine, especially because all of my Nür, my nerve agreeing experience has essentially been in gt7 and so just the differences in like elevation, like they're, you know, obviously, places in gt7 where you can go flat out and, yeah, trying to take that same car on, uh, the nerve agreeing, and I racing, and it's like, oh yeah, your tires are no longer on the ground, you're expecting to be glued to the ground, you're expecting to have auto aero Down force.

Erick:

Physics exists here. Once you go over this little hump now, your tires are on the ground. You can't be in the area and turn.

Jason:

at the same time, eric Carley has left the chat. That's it Disconnected. Yep Instant and Jerry.

Erick:

Carely, has left the chat. That's. It Disconnected Yep Instant back to the pits.

Jason:

I'll give some sort of summarized thing that happened this weekend and our last episode. We were talking for the future. I had no idea what was at stake here. I'm good at the track, but there's a clear difference which we will get into. Don't spill the beans. But I'm glad you bought it. I'm glad you bought it because it's a great track. It's used many different events. They got the Rainmeister, they got the 24 hour, they have GT racing there.

Jason:

It's all over the place and it comes. It's got like three or four configurations right, so combined you can race all of them. So it's kind of cool.

Erick:

Rob Markman. Yeah, I'll say this, it was 35 bucks just for the track, rob.

Jason:

Mark, it's that much, huh.

Erick:

Yeah, that was-.

Jason:

That was a jab to the gut. You'll be all right.

Erick:

Yeah, but I've forgotten about it already.

Jason:

There you go.

Erick:

Now I have a new challenge on my hands, so, yeah, it's definitely worth it.

Jason:

What did you take on the track?

Erick:

The Porsche that you guys race in. The Porsche yeah.

Jeff:

The P-Cup. Let's start with something difficult, yeah.

Erick:

Well, so the thing is I'm most familiar with the GT3. If I try to take that BMW M2 out there, man, I'm just going to oh no, get bored.

Jason:

You'll be on the straight for like 20 minutes that long straight. You'll fall asleep. I won't make it to the straight.

Erick:

And that BMW I won't make it to the straight just because, having learned that car, and that car takes a lot more finesse with the Porsche At least I can slow down and kind of drive carefully and it won't kill me. But with that BMW it's like, oh, you're going straight and the weight balance is weird.

Jason:

That's it.

Erick:

You hit a hump and the back end is going that way, and now you're back in pits. I'll tell you man.

Jason:

We did a race before the 24-hour event. We did a GRL race at the Nürburgring in the P cup and it was raining when we did it, so that was a good practice, but we didn't run. I'll get into the. I'll get into the details soon, jeff. How was your week man? Thanks, eric.

Jeff:

It was good man. I've been super busy. Work's been absolutely crushing me. I don't know if you guys had the IndyCar, since it was no F1. Indycar was at Detroit, but the IndyCar didn't take the news of Detroit, the F4 cars. I don't know if you gentlemen had a chance to see the I use parent the air quotes race, but, dudes, it was exactly how you think. So it's a road course right, super narrow, exactly how you think an i-racing f4 d-class race would be on a super narrow street course. Oh, my god, bro, this is no word of a lot. I will, I will. We'll put a link into the incident I'm talking about in description. There was a crash in the second corner and another crash, another crash and it stopped the race.

Jason:

It's blocked the track, all cars, oh I think I seen a dominoes, a highlight, or?

Erick:

something that was recent. I thought that was like some blooper reel from something. No that just happened Wow. Like is this Idiot of the Week in?

Jeff:

iRacing.

Jason:

Yeah, oh no.

Jeff:

It's actually a real F4 in Detroit.

Jason:

Oh, wow.

Jeff:

It was like, exactly like an F4 D-Class race would be.

Jason:

And you're like not much different.

Jeff:

Maybe we don't have anything to really complain about. This is how it is in real racing, but uh, yeah, I was.

Jason:

It sucks for everybody involved, uh, but it was entertaining for us that were watching it well, yeah, I mean you're trying to find that something to cure the fix of not having a formula one race hey, you got that right.

Jeff:

You got that right. And then more people are talking about this than the indycar. I don't even know who won the indycar. I don't know who won that four race either, but it was a cool. Like I don't say cool, that's not the right word, but uh, it was a highlight it was, got us talking about it, or or a low light, yeah, yeah, a low light.

Jason:

Well, that's what's up, man.

Jeff:

How was?

Jason:

yours Well.

Jeff:

Without spilling the beans. How was yours yeah?

Jason:

Well, I'm having trouble adjusting back to a regular sleep schedule because of this race and I'll get into that, but other than that it's been a great week, got a lot done. Thank you guys again for all the hard work, and you know what I mean when I say that. We put some new stuff in place for the show to keep it running more efficient, and it's working. So thank you. I want to say thank you here in front of everybody. And now the green hill 24-hour race Achievement unlocked, basically. And now the green hell 24 hour race achievement unlocked, basically ever since I started sim racing and I'm quoting the man, the myth, the legend, uh, michael from the sim racing. Then we have the same insight, and it's ever since I started sim racing. Um, this has been a goal for me was to participate in one of these, because it used to be me looking at these streamers and wishing I had a team to go and or the time, or the equipment, or the pace, all of it, all together, to participate in an event like this. And it happened, and it happened fast, meaning the preparation. I mean there was little to no preparation. Rob Markman, what preparation? There was no preparation. We had shout out to my boy, mark Thompson AKA. He streams. He has many names Bruiser King, sorry, and Pixel Busters. I think he has like two brands, so shout out to him. He built a spreadsheet at the last minute. He even added the Hawaiian time zone so people can understand where the hell I'm at.

Jason:

And we started filling in the slots. We started filling it up and I was getting excited and one of us canceled and one of us canceled. So I hit up one of my friends that we race with in the Global Racing League, but he's a pro driver. This guy is way faster than us. His I rating is higher. So I reached out to him and I said listen, man, I didn't want to reach out to you because I'm not as fast as you, but right now I'm kind of in a corner. Right now we need somebody to open up this race. And he was so cool man. Shout out to Gene. You know who you are too Another Puerto Rican brother. So he was all for it. He said dude, don't worry about that, we're going to go over there, we're gonna kill it. So then we started doing some practice and I started following him and I was maybe a second off his best. So I was kind of really excited and happy.

Jason:

Yeah, I was really yeah, at the I started out in the high 835s, then I went down to 8031, then I went down to an 825 in the actual event, which was a 10 second gain. So I don't know how, maybe it's just practice or just repetition and, yeah, knowing the track, because it's really knowing the track yeah, it's knowing the track, and then we're racing a gt3 car.

Jason:

So the gt3 car allows for more speed, it allows for more, more, it wants more and you think you're not going to make it, but somehow the car makes it, which is what makes them special. And it's rather controversial because we race P-cups and P-cups. There's always that person that races P-cups that's saying, oh man, peacups. Where the challenge is, if you could drive a Peacup, you could drive anything. So now my views on that have changed a little, because we have professional drivers that race Peacup had to learn or not learn, but had to practice on a GT3 car, which you would think the opposite, right. And he's like yeah, this car is asking for more speed, more, and I don't.

Jason:

Our braking points, a hundred percent different. Everything, slip, angle, weight transfer, everything about it is a different animal. And doing that with cars on track is another different animal. So anyways, fast forward. We practice, got a group together, our first. The start was at 9 pm local time and we put our fastest driver, which was Gene, in the car. So Gene qualified. I think it was 39th Excuse me 39th place out of the 60 teams, out of the 1,000 teams total that signed up for this event, wow.

Erick:

Okay, okay, yeah, that went zero to 100 real quick yeah.

Jason:

The fraction started adding up there.

Erick:

Yeah.

Jason:

So we started the race, I started the stream, everything was going well, had a little glitch in the beginning and he gets taken out. Lap one gets taken out, lap one. We got a seven minute uh, damage repair in the pits.

Jeff:

Oh, so you didn. So you got taken out.

Jason:

Yeah, he got pushed into a wall and then Like heavy damage.

Jeff:

Yeah, it was on turn one too.

Jason:

Turn one, somebody came out of respect and put a BMW into our Porsche.

Jeff:

That sucks Like you can't win the race in the first corner, right, but you can sure ruin it for a bunch of people.

Jason:

Yeah, and it was him, it was only Gene and I, everybody else. It was like two, three o'clock in the morning for everybody else. So I'm like, okay, so I'm trying to be there for him too. And A, I got to start the stream and I need to be there for him. Mark was there for a little bit and I said don't worry about it, the main goal here is survival. We're just trying to. We're not top split. We qualified in the mid pack, but then we lost the mid pack. So then I think we ended up like P47 or P48 after that. And okay, so two hours later I took the wheel. I gained 14 positions on my stint. I don't know how. Yeah, boy, I don't know how?

Erick:

Yeah boy.

Jason:

I don't know how I did it.

Jeff:

Chicane podcast coming for you.

Jason:

Good for you, buddy 825 was my fastest lap there 825?. Yeah, aliens were doing 818, 819, and then the odd 813, which was like I don't know it was like a 7, 8,000 eye rating or something, something stupid.

Jeff:

But you were saying you were doing that as, like, your fastest lap, though Pretty close yeah.

Jason:

That is my all time fastest lap without draft.

Jeff:

And you're doing it with 20 and it's you know so you're not like on the edge, especially in a 24, like, so you must've been feeling it, dude.

Jason:

That was completely. One of the laps was completely on edge, like tires were. Yeah, tires were scraping. You can go back and watch the replay. Tires were scraping the grass, they were scraping each corner. I connected really well. I think Neil the top shotter was there watching me. He was, it was maybe he's probably like ah, he, he, yeah. So I ended up being maybe, maybe close to I don't know, maybe three, four o'clock in the morning. He got up super early, was making coffee, gene was racing from Vegas. So by the time he got off, did quality, did practice. It was five o'clock in the morning for him when he went to bed and that's the thing he said I'm going to bed. And I said the same thing when I gave up the car to Neil. I could not sleep, I couldn't. I was dreaming about corners.

Jason:

Yeah, I was dreaming about corners and cars and the track and the track and the track and worried about the stream, or what if this person's pc crashes or whatever. Yeah, so I mean just to summarize uh, all three parts are up, uploaded on youtube. You can go and skim through and check it out. But one of the most interesting things happen to us. So a guy named Nim Cross joins our stream on Twitch and I had no idea who this person was. Right, nim Cross. I'm like, okay, what's up, nim Cross, how you doing? And he was very humble and he was asking me why are you going to sleep? You should be drinking, you should be going to the store getting five, five hour energies and staying up. And I said, dude, I'm almost 40. He's like I'm 59.

Jason:

So then, so Gene is still hanging out. And Gene is like, wait a minute, I know that name named Nim Cross. He is an official iRacing chief engineer. The iRacing chief engineer was in our street, wow, yeah, and we were joking because our skin, our bumper, had a chromed out bumper and it was really bright. And we were like, yeah, man, we're just trying to throw people off. You didn't get too close and you'll blind you and he put some emojis on. He was laughing. So after I found that out, I invited him to attend onto the Chicane podcast and he gladly accepted. Oh man, that's awesome, let's go. So Nim Cross will be coming onto the show to give us insight and sometime after he left my stream, a team called. What is that name of that team? Eric? What is that name? Something with Verstappen? Huh, what is the name of that team, bro? Someone got disqualified, I heard. I heard on the radio.

Jeff:

Red Spot, red oh.

Jason:

Red Line, right Red Line, yeah, so team Red.

Erick:

Line.

Jason:

They have no snackline, right it was Redline, redline.

Erick:

Yeah, so Team Redline, that was my foo huh.

Jeff:

Say it ain't so.

Jason:

So Nim Cross was the actual person to. If Nim, if you're here, correct me if I'm wrong, but I've watched many YouTube videos after the incident happened with them and it was Nim Cross that stewarded what happened and found a discrepancy and straight up disqualified them. Oh yeah, they started the pits. Yeah, go ahead, jeff.

Jeff:

No, it's because. So I mean, I don't know what happened in the background, but everything I watched said that they withdrew, so maybe Nim Cross was like. You got two options here, fellas you can get disqualified or you can withdraw. I'll let you decide.

Jason:

Yeah, you can withdraw yourself from this race. So what happened in a nutshell and probably Eric has more details about it, but in a nutshell is that they started the race from the pits and they put wet tires on on a bone dry race.

Jason:

And the reason why they put wet tires on was because the wet tires are thicker tire, so it allowed for them to drop the ride height lower than what was legally allowed on the dry tire. So their plan was yeah, we'll do a lap, come in and switch to the dry tire and drop down the car and get a five second. I don't know how many seconds, but get like a five second. Uh, gain every single lap. So it was a loophole that they thought they found, but all three of them went into the pits at the start of the race all three.

Jeff:

Yeah, you know it's interesting because I was watching videos and they said that if they did a lap and then went into the pits it would have been fine. Now I don't know if that's true or not, but there's nothing like bringing attention to yourself than, like one of the top five premier teams in all of iRacing starting in the pits.

Jason:

Yeah, Like why are you starting? In the pits.

Jeff:

Why are you on?

Jason:

a wet tire first of all, and yeah, it was very, very. We didn't know about this, we were racing.

Jeff:

Yeah, you got your head down. Literally we were hammered down Like yeah you got your head down.

Jason:

Literally. We were hammered down. It was kind of dope. The stream was kind of awesome. Midstream we'd have updates like yo. This team, gecko, is two places ahead of us. They're on their second stint. We had all kinds of stuff.

Jeff:

It was as an outsider, jason, it was cool because I know Eric and I dropped in combined maybe six times and it was cool to hear you guys talking and communicating to the dude that was driving over. Hey, you know we bumped up the last you know session driver, bumped up you know this many places and talking about how many laps you got in the thing and average lap times and especially like giving people the driver the SA of somebody who's coming up behind them. You know it looks like they're driving on the edge. Just don't take the risk and just let them pass let them go right.

Jason:

It's not worth, you know, battling yeah, we've been here for like 18, 15 hours.

Jeff:

Yeah, definitely, and it was super cool to see like the whole team doing this thing, not just passing it off and everybody goes and does their thing, Right?

Jason:

No, it was really it was really good, man, because we had a race engineer. That's any of us. And let's say, jeff, you're driving the car and you're getting ready to pull in the pit stops and to the pit stop, excuse me. And I'm the next driver and I want tires and I want full tank gas. Instead of making you do that in iRacing, you can actually take control of the person's button box and start clicking on the tires, start setting the fuel If there's a particular PSI on the tire you want. We were looking at everything the weather. We were looking at everything the weather. We were looking at radar. We were looking at how far ahead, um, our closest, if the guy behind us was faster, or like legitimately a race engineer.

Jeff:

Yeah, yeah, like sitting at the sitting in the pits looking at your data wall and the debt you know your data that you've compiled over the last hour hours. It was cool to watch. It really was just hearing you guys interact and stuff like that. The guys were awesome.

Jason:

They helped me out so much While I was away. They took care of the stream. They answered questions. Roy Wheeler.

Jeff:

I saw you dropped in I saw you dropped in.

Jason:

Roy didn't just drop in. Roy was with us 90% of the time and you know, what he did. I think we had like two or three hours left to complete this race. And he says guys, I got to go, but I'm setting up my alarm clock so I can get up and watch you guys finish the race. That's legit.

Jeff:

Roy Wheeler Shout out to.

Jason:

Roy Roy kept us alive. He kept us engaged. Shout out to Roy Roy, kept us alive, he kept us engaged. Shout out to Nimcross and shout out to Michael from the Sim Racing then, because after the race, he left a message that I'm going to share with you all. I'm going to read it to you and it says Achievement Unlocked iRacing 24-hour NERBR complete. This weekend I checked off a major sim racing bucket list goal, competing in and finishing a 24-hour endurance race alongside my team, sim Racing Coalition. That's the name of the team we came up with SRC, and it's the coalition of. It's the unison of brands, different brands together. So we had Neil Severin Jim X Sim Scene. He actually made the skin to the car Of course he did.

Jason:

Hit him up on Insta if you're looking for a skin. We have Bruiser King, which is a Twitch streamer. We had Michael from the Sim Racing then and you had TGSR here, so we crossed the line at 32nd place in the annual iRacing 24 Hours Nürburgring, One of the most grueling endurance events out there, combining the GP and the Norse Life layouts with eight to nine minute lap times and multi-class chaos. Yeah, because we had GT3s, GT4s, P-Cup, TCR and BMWs on the same track.

Jeff:

It was chaos, dude. There were cars there. When I dropped in, it seemed like there were cars everywhere. Go ahead. I'm sorry to interrupt.

Jason:

Freaking cars everywhere. Bro, he said we raced in a Porsche 911 GT3R wrapped in a custom livery by our own Neil Severin. There he is again Gen X Sim Scene, and every teammate played a crucial role. So Jason Rivera GGSR for streaming the full 24 hours and being a rock behind the wheel. Gene William Rivera set us up for success with a strong quali and ran one of the hardest opening stints Because he did. He did. Mark Thompson managed logistics, driver stints, fuel calculators and still laid down clean laps. John DeWayne this is another guy. John DeWayne is a 5.1 I rating, but in the Mazda MX-5.

Jeff:

What.

Jason:

And he took this car.

Jason:

Oh yeah, he put it down, he's a weapon in the Mazda series, delivered some of the cleanest and fastest laps, like I think his fastest lap was like in the 820, low 820s, like he was flying bro. Neil Severin gave us style and speed with his livery and steady driving. And yours truly, let's just say my first stint in the pitch black was rough, but I bounced back with a strong, clean second run. So I have to add one more, david Crossan. He is a follower, a listener of the Chicane podcast. He joins the GRL, he's an MX5 driver and I reached out to him and said would you like to be part of this? And he said yes, and he's like I don't have my C license. And it was a minimum C license. He said I don't have my C license, I'm on travel. The guy gets off a plane, he drives maybe five or six hours straight, gets a C license, then he dumps three more hours into a car that he just purchased the same day.

Jeff:

Yeah, yeah, that dude's sleeping right now.

Jason:

And you know what? He went from a D 4.0, which bumped him up to a C 3.45. And now he's a C 4.99, which is over 4. You can't get any higher than that so all he has to do is participate in one more race, and this guy jumped from a D class to a B class In like four days.

Erick:

The way he was driving. I believe it, man.

Jason:

So shout out to David Crosson.

Jeff:

Whenever he wakes up, he'll be in B class.

Jason:

And then it says huge thanks to this amazing group of drivers and friends. We may have not been the fastest team out there, but I guarantee no one had more fun than we did. I'd go to war with these guys again in a heartbeat. So thank you so much, michael, for the kind words. Honestly, this experience you guys need to do this Seriously.

Jeff:

I'd like to do an endurance race, maybe not 24 hours the first pull, there's a Spa 24 too.

Jason:

That's coming soon. Talk dirty to me, jason. You know Spa bro, so yeah, it's kind of a bittersweet moment like um. Here I'll share.

Jeff:

I'll share a a picture of the I got a question for you too whenever yeah, go ahead, all right, does it give you a new respect for the guys that do this in like, oh, yeah, for real life, the cars, oh, 100. Like, can you imagine like how beat you were if you were to get out of the car, if you just drove a GT3, the board for two hours to get a couple hours break and then get in it again?

Jason:

This is the car. Yeah, man, I'm telling you. What killed me was that the limitation of YouTube. Youtube has a 12 hour limitation with live streams. Not saying that I can't stream over 12, but the recording can't be over 12, if that makes sense. So I go to bed at three o'clock in the morning, bed meaning tossed and turned.

Jason:

Yeah, laid down basically, and I had to get up at seven o'clock in the morning anyway to stop that stream, start another one and then after that I was just a zombie dude. I was a zombie. I tried going back to sleep. I couldn't man so imagine this in real life. I can imagine people. How do you sleep during an event like that? How do you get some rest? Rob Markman.

Jeff:

Obviously you don't want to take melatonin or nothing because you don't want to wake up groggy, or if you got to get in the car for something happens, I don't know.

Erick:

Rob Markman. That's the scary part If something happens or you get a call or something, rob, or something.

Jason:

Usually you wake up tired, way more tired than you would if you just did it naturally right. So, yeah, a lot of respect for the people that do this, but again this- Not trying to downplay what you guys did by any stretch of the imagination. I'll tell you-.

Jeff:

Super cool stuff.

Jason:

Yeah, I'll tell you Super cool stuff. If you go out there and look at the speed that we were moving to do that over and over and over, it was like 157 laps around the Nürburgring bro.

Erick:

That's crazy.

Jason:

Wait. I think it was like I don't know how many miles stupid amount of miles that we drove on the car. Like we were talking about that. We were joking around. I was like this engine's done bro.

Jeff:

Yeah, it is For sure, this engine is toast.

Erick:

Done deal, pack that up, man. That's crazy.

Jason:

Yeah, man. So maybe next time we'll get you guys in there.

Jeff:

Love to.

Jason:

Yeah, yeah, we need to do one. Honestly, it's uh, it'll change It'll, it'll change your your view on it. Like you, I thought I knew everything there was to know about endurance by just looking at it. But when you do it and I think about doing another event like that, I I have some ideas on how to fight certain things. Right, I would have never went that early. What I should have done was start at the stream, go to bed, then get up right before switching over, then take my stint. That's what I should have done and I would have been all right. But it is what it is. It's over now. We survived.

Jeff:

We're living. It is what it is. It's over now. One last question we survived, we're living. I'm sure everybody is interested. Anybody have to do a bathroom break while they were driving.

Jason:

No.

Jeff:

No, no, I was adrenaline kicked in.

Jason:

I didn't get shit on the pedals this time, I made sure, and I definitely tested the hardware. Trust me, everything's working.

Jeff:

Oh, I dropped in and somebody was talking about their computer overheating and I was like oh no.

Jason:

Oh, that was Mikey, but that was after way, after his stint was done.

Jeff:

Oh, was it Okay.

Jason:

Yeah, I mean, I was looking at my computer was fine until the very end I was looking at. It was getting hot already and you know being on all the time, bro, and that's the thing. This computer was on. The same thing you're viewing in the background is exactly what I woke up to and I didn't even want to look dude. When I woke up, like an hour later and I look at the screen, I'm like is the car still on track? Yeah, it's still on the track. Let's go.

Erick:

Rob Markman. Yeah, so it's funny, because when I got in the stream you were tossing and turning. I assumed you weren't asleep, but you weren't in the rig. Yeah, there's no way he's asleep. He's just probably taking a break or something like that, because I know I couldn't sleep if I had that going on upstairs in my house Bro.

Erick:

But just thinking about what you were saying, jeff, about all the stuff that has to go right, even with the sim racing, you about all the stuff that has to go right Even with the sim racing, you think about it. It was like five or six of you guys so that's five or six PCs that had to stay on and work in five or six iterations of our racing.

Jason:

We were working around the clock dude Because Neil was out with his wife all day. He was two hours away from his house. He drives back and I'm ready to take the wheel again and he's like no, I'm back, I'm good. So then he jumped in and then the other guy had to do something and it was just like the same thing we had. We had mentioned something like that here, like go about your day, do what you got to do, and then when it's your time to drive day, do, do what you got to do, and then, when it's your time, to drive then, but that's a solid two hours that you're there, yeah, at the nurburg, with some very, very fast uh competition out there, and then you have these slow cars and really fast cars people spinning out in front of you.

Jeff:

It's a lot, it's a lot going on at night too at night.

Jason:

So, yes, we started the. We started the race somewhere in midday and we drove it all through the night, through sunrise it it was even foggy in the morning it was so dope dude. So, yes, if you want to check it out. It's on there, all of it. It's uh, it's a little, you know it's R-rated. On part three. We were getting tired.

Erick:

Just like real racing man, Hallucinating.

Jason:

The effects. Yeah, man, we broke out the drinks at the tail end.

Jeff:

After you're done, your last stint, yeah.

Jason:

I ain't driving no more. Turn the steering wheel off and cheering our Gene because Gene finished, started and finished, that's what's up. Cheering him on. And he was rocking bro. He was pushing hard. He was like I'm making up for what I did in the beginning, I'm making it up right now. That sucks. I'm sure he felt terrible. He did, he did. He was really like he was. Yeah, it happened to me too. Some BMW clipped me in the back, put the car on the wall, but we didn't total the car. That was the most important thing was not totaling the car, it was just people. Just you got to understand. You're driving for that many hours. People are tired, they're exhausted.

Jeff:

Decision making is challenged. Rob Markman Jr, If you got three people doing this.

Jason:

Just do the math, bro. That's eight hours a person. That's no joke. That's no joke, bro. So the more the merrier, might I say. We had seven drivers and we still did two hours each. We still did. No, we did four, almost four hours each, like three hours and some change. And we would just do it by the gas tank. And that was one more thing. That's another thing I was going to tell Eric.

Jason:

There's a very, very different thing the car has. You can go through all the stages of the vehicle, because from when you first put gas in the car, it's really hard to turn the car really heavy. And then you start flying over curves and being really sketchy, bro, the tire catching and going like this, like oh man. But after a while we were just having conversations the car's doing like I don't know half a click on the road. And you know, I started watching and I was like dude, we're like joking around about nostalgic things and the car's just like screaming down the road. Yeah, you can see it in the back. That's us in the back racing the 911. So anyways, that's going to do it for Nuremberg. I can't wait to do it again. I can't wait. Thank God it's only once a year because I'm not ready right now.

Erick:

I need some time, but that's going to be my next, that's going to be my goal, man, to participate in that. You can do it, man, you can do it, you can do it.

Jason:

You get that pace going, you get that practice going, we will all do it. It was so sick, we will all jump in a practice run and we would just form a train bro, all seven cars, all six cars.

Jason:

That's super cool and we were just all doing like this and the guy in the front he's telling us the gear he's in to kind of help. If you want to find a yeah, All right. So that's going to do it for the Nürburgring experience the 24 hours. So over to Eric for the next topic. Want to have a live coach available on demand. With Trophy AI, you'll be able to practice with Mansell AI at your convenience A real-time coach in your headphones to navigate and guide you through the track, helping you achieve race pace. This tool is awesome as it provides full brake, throttle and steering telemetry on screen, with a live review getting you ready for your next big race. Check links to Trophy AI in the description and also use CHICAIN12 in all caps for a 12% discount.

Erick:

Yes, sir. So this man, you got me thinking about the Nürburgring. I'll probably do a couple of practice laps here later. But on to something else. That's not quite as exciting as a Nürburgring but it is. You know, it's exciting nonetheless. A little bit more GT7 news. Bit more GT7 news.

Erick:

So, if you guys don't know, gt7 just recently had a kickoff to their GT World Series, and so this is something they do every year. They have a series of race events where they have drivers that are qualified throughout the year to represent their countries and they get to pick manufacturers and basically just start the GT World Series. So the interesting thing about this year is normally GT7 has like a different partner. They might be a manufacturer or OEM or technology, just some company that's, you know, that partners with them and kind of sponsors the event, their headliner. This year it was interesting because it was Xiaomi. So Xiaomi is a Chinese um.

Erick:

They. They used to be just like a phone manufacturer. They started making watches, tablets, other electronics, but they've gotten really really really deep into um racing manufacturers, just all kind of stuff, um and so to, I guess, to solidify themselves, they invited the I can't remember who he is from GT7, but like the lead developer that got us over. It invited them out to their manufacturing facility and basically just took them around and showed them just their culture there. You know, they have this place where they're manufacturing cars. They're manufacturing um, they're doing all their testing and simulation for their cars and he got to drive um one of their evs and I have a picture of it here I'm gonna put up all right, let's see it, bro, let's see it, I think that these like, I think that company's like pumping these cars out and they're reasonably priced, like in the real world.

Jeff:

So I'm not surprised that.

Jason:

GT3 yeah, but reliability in them, you know, I don't know.

Erick:

It doesn't look terrible, so this is an.

Jason:

EV. It looks like a McLaren almost.

Jeff:

A little bit. That's the first thing I thought of.

Erick:

Yep, so it's an ev and I got some of the specs here. And the interesting thing about this car is, um, they have three iterations of it. They have just their regular, um, it's called the xiaomi su7. They have their regular version, which is kind of eerily tame, right so that one has a single motor and you get 295 horses out of it. You know 300 horses.

Jeff:

Electric motor probably get 300 horses is about a baseline.

Jason:

Is that a base model?

Erick:

yeah, that's base model single motor, which is crazy, because my Camry has more horsepower than that, that's why. But then you could bump it up to a dual motor and it has 664 horsepower.

Jason:

Okay, you got to have torque too. The zero torque, the zero to a hundred torque, is what makes them fast yeah.

Erick:

Yeah, with the electric ones, the torque is always the kind of star of the show, but more horsepower doesn't hurt. And Xavi took that to the moon, so the one you're looking at. If you look at the front tag, it says ultra. So there's the su ultra that one has 1525. What?

Jason:

you said a thousand. Oh, this looks like a sleeper bro, it will 1,525 horsepower 1,525.

Jeff:

That thing's a death trap.

Erick:

Oh yeah, it's definitely trying to kill you. They put on the Nurburgring and it set the record for the fastest four-door electric sedan to go around in Nurburgring.

Jason:

I'm telling you Nurburgring's where it's at. You want to test? Wow, oh yeah.

Erick:

Yeah, and it didn't. There was some kind of caveats with it, so it didn't take the fastest production car because they did do some weight reduction on it so it was kind of like stripped out on the inside so it didn't, you know, qualify for that, but it did beat the times for the fastest production cars to go around in nurburgring thousand horsepower. I'm not surprised, yeah. And so another big thing is they will be the newest manufacturer to be added to gt7 and they will be adding this car to gt7, which is, um, something we've kind of been complaining about. I think I showed in the last update what kind of cars they were adding and it wasn't exciting. What was that little truck?

Jeff:

that was like 97 horsepower three-cylinder.

Jason:

What was it a?

Jeff:

Honda.

Erick:

I forget what it was. I try to get that out of my mind. I try to use that space in my memory for something else.

Jason:

It's like this little work truck, the little mini work truck.

Jeff:

Eric, you got to hand it to GT3 or GT7, though, on their ability to just rapidly pump new cars into the game. That is impressive.

Erick:

I mean it's like every third episode we got new updates of cars getting put in that is impressive, I mean it's like every third episode we got new updates of cars getting put in. Yeah, and there is interesting because we were talking about, just like, the complexity of the cars and you know, if you're putting a little work truck, for instance, you're putting it in the game, the adjustability and all that stuff of it. It's pretty minimalistic, it's not very fast, you're not modifying it. No brake bias, no TCS, abs suspension. So the model itself is kind of simple, but the effort is still appreciated. If they were doing real race cars, it would be significantly more difficult to do, which sadly we don't get a lot of.

Jeff:

Imagine being the engineer that's doing that truck and he's like man, ain't, nobody gonna drive this thing. And his boss is like yo, when that truck gonna be done so we can push it to the game. And he's like man, nobody can drive this thing, yeah. I know right who's gonna drive this thing, who's gonna see?

Erick:

So the funny thing is yeah, I know right who's going to drive this thing. So the funny thing is they for Daily Race A that truck was. They put that truck on the Tokyo Expressway.

Jason:

Of course they would, that's perfect.

Erick:

It's like a goof race. Basically People hop in there and go down Tokyo Expressway at like 57 miles an hour, wide open or something like that.

Erick:

Wide open yeah it was kind of crazy, but go down Tokyo expressway at like 57 miles an hour, wide open, wide open. Yeah, it was kind of crazy, but but this kind of takes me to just like the kind of whole EV conversation, because this is the first time they partnered with somebody over an EV. You've never seen this car before. The one that I'm showing you right now. This is the Sony. What is this called Sony? The Sony Afila. So this car was one that they added last year and Sony basically worked up this entire car and the car has, especially in VR. It has everything. Everything's designed out the screens, the interfaces, sound system better be dope Sound system everything. This is not a race car at all. This car is like a rolling entertainment center.

Erick:

So sound screens everything on the inside, and Sony actually built this car in real life as well, so it existed in real life as well.

Jeff:

So it existed in the virtual world first.

Erick:

And they built a real one in real life.

Jason:

And you can pre-order it now.

Erick:

Oh, how much are they going for? So they are it here.

Jason:

I think I got the link to it. How much you think it is? Jason? A hundred, a hundred thousand?

Jeff:

yeah, I guess it probably depends on the battery and stuff huh yeah, what's your guess?

Jason:

uh, I'll say starting 70 and 70 to 100.

Jeff:

Yeah I'll probably I'll say higher than that, just to make things interesting.

Erick:

Okay, so this is the Sony Afila.

Jeff:

Okay, starting at 90. Starting at 90.

Erick:

Starting at 90. What's he crying?

Jason:

for.

Erick:

He's getting to experience.

Jeff:

Yeah, he's Look at that. What the Not the way I would have gone if I was the marketer.

Jason:

All right, listen, we need you to cry when you're driving this car, bro?

Erick:

Yeah, man, hey, it's going to talk to you. You've got an external display.

Jason:

Oh, you and I would not want to buy this car.

Erick:

That's dope.

Jeff:

It would be some profanity all day. There's got to be a way.

Erick:

Learn to fucking drive yeah get on the right lane, don't travel on the left lane, yep but when I say this, like the idea of it is, it's a mobile, just like entertainment space, and you know this being a Japanese product, of course you have that just culture of you know, just creating an experience right, so you got you got speakers in the you know in your seats and you know, just creating an experience, right, yeah, you got. You got speakers in the, you know in your seats and you know spatial audio you know screens everywhere.

Erick:

It's just, you know just the full experience. And, and like I said this, when this first came to the game, of course we all hopped in and drove it. I'm like this car sucks because wait, it, it's a. It's a terrible car to have on the track, so serious too he's.

Jeff:

So this car is so because we were like it was one of those, so it was.

Erick:

You know, it was a time when, you know, people were complaining about gt7, not getting you know any cars, and they were kind of giving us some like you know weird stuff and they're like, oh, ev, and you know, from sony and all this stuff, maybe it'll be fast. It wasn't fast at all, but the inside was dope. And just to, I'm trying to get down to the specs here. Okay, they got two trims, the signature start with 103. Yeah, so 103 for the you know the signature version.

Erick:

Yep, um, trying to find where's that. So you get some bigger wheels. They don't have any speed or performance stuff, which, once again, right, every ev they're. They're putting that zero to 60 time. Up there they're. You know, the speed is, the speed is the easy button, selective motors you just dial them up and they go. So the fact that they're not advertising that at all, once again it's kind of sus. No, it reaffirms You're not buying this for the speed, 100%.

Jason:

It'll probably be there in some form. Every other manufacturer that makes EV is going to show you how fast they are.

Erick:

Yeah, so that's got to be-.

Jeff:

Yeah, this is not fair. Sundial slow.

Erick:

So remember right, Because when I was researching this-.

Jason:

Don't forget who we're talking to, Jeff. This guy is a Sony fanatic.

Jeff:

I like Sony too, but I know you are bro, You're a Sony fanatic.

Jason:

I like Sony too, but I know you are, bro. You're a Sony fan, bro. Stop playing with yourself. I'm a Sony fan. I'm not a fanatic, I know you.

Erick:

But I'm a realist right, so you know, just like.

Jason:

I know Sony does. Let me see that cup that's on your desk. Lift that cup up, bro. Let me see what's on there. You see, you see, look at him.

Erick:

No. But so the thing you got to remember about Sony is Sony does whatever the hell Sony wants to do. Right, when they made laptops, when they made phones, they do what they want to do and you either like it or you don't. And so for them to come out of the car and be like, yeah, if you ask us about speed, we'll say it's fast enough, it goes is about speed. We'll say it is fast enough, it it goes. I can totally see them saying that and not even really caring about you know performance and being like but did you sit in it? Did you get it in to close your eyes? Did it bring you to tears when you sat, when you drove it? Bro?

Jeff:

this is a fake ass tears. You bring a good point, like it was like one tear one I was completely dry. It was like bro but I think your point is like they're bringing the car to the entertainment, not the entertainment to the car. Right, you're buying it for the.

Jason:

You know the experience, not the acceleration I will say this there's not a sim out there. That's done.

Erick:

Electric cars right when it comes to feel, because they all feel slow, you know so I'll say this about GT7 they've got some, they've got some other EVs in there, and I've driven a Model 3. It wasn't a performance, but it was a Model 3. And one thing they do have right is that damn weight, because they are heavy and once they get going it is terrifying because, you because you know, unless you've done some hell of upgrades, that when you hit those brakes they are not going to be there.

Erick:

It is not going to slow down quick, just compared to what you normally expect in a lighter road car, especially compared to a race car.

Jason:

You should come down for a visit, because I have two of them.

Erick:

Yeah, the Model 3s.

Jason:

I have one Model 3 Performance and I got a Model Y Performance, and those things stop on a dime bro.

Erick:

They bring that 6,000 pounds.

Jason:

Oh yeah, Full stop so GT7. They got it wrong dude.

Erick:

So I'm not going to ask you how fast you're going, because of legality purposes.

Jason:

We're not going to incriminate ourselves on the Chicane podcast, but I will tell you that she has stopped better than anything else I've driven. So I don't know if the Model 3 was. You know, I don't know.

Erick:

I'll say probably the speeds I was going in the game had a lot to do with why the stopping distances were. I mean, it's not a race car but it's a performance car, my car has a track mode whatever.

Jason:

And see we can't.

Erick:

That's another problem. You can't change any modes. You can't like select anything. You get in and you just press the gas. So all of the different performance options or what is it? Press the go button. Press the go switch.

Jason:

The forward pedal, the accelerator, yeah, that's funny. I'm telling you, I've driven Model S's Plads and they're what I'm telling you sense of speed. I don't feel it in those games. I don't know, I don't feel it in any games. I've tried it in Assetto, Corsa, evo. They feel dead to me. But those cars are way more fun. They're way more fun in life, I would say are way more fun.

Erick:

They're way more fun in life.

Jason:

I would say I see it. I'm pretty sure some people are going to attack me, so come on and attack me in the comments. Yeah, I do my stick shift driving in the rig, but a business vehicle, get me to work Autopilot all day.

Jeff:

Oh dude, I'd love that. That'd be awesome man.

Erick:

Look, I need that for my girls, man, before they start driving. Whatever they got to do to figure that out.

Jason:

Especially Hawaii traffic, bro. Yeah, bro, you appreciate the little things in life at that point. Yeah, all right, gents. That's what's up. Eric, good topic again. Those are cool things, man, you showing off. I mean, are you going to buy one though, because I know you're a fan?

Erick:

So you know, my issue with the EV right now is we tend to go out into the boonies a little bit, and so, unless something happens, I win a lottery. I can't have a car that I can't take everywhere. I hope you do, bro. And so the lottery. I can't have a car that I can't take everywhere.

Jason:

I hope you do bro.

Erick:

I like that. I like that.

Jason:

I hope you do. If you do, don't forget about us.

Erick:

Both of us. I got you man Right yeah.

Jason:

All of us.

Erick:

I'm going to be sprinkling some love in Hawaii man.

Jason:

There you go, bro, there you go. All right, well, you know so, all right, well, I well, we're cutting it really close on time. So I will be postponing the track of the week and I won't reveal what it is, what it was, but I did make a promise that we will go over the questions that we had on in queue for the week, so without further ado. Who's up? I think, Jeff, you're up first for the first one.

Jeff:

I got you, buddy. I'm going to get right into it here, so this is a short one, so I'm going to share it from the beginning here and give this a quick read. This is do we have a name for this one, peter? Hey, guys love your podcast. Watch it every Monday, hey, peter. Thanks, dude, we appreciate being part of your day. I'm from Sweden. I love sim racing. I thought I'd send you some pictures of my sim rig. Keep up the awesome podcast. And, dudes, if my rig looked like this, I'd be sharing the hell out of it too.

Jason:

I'm telling you that is clean.

Jeff:

Oh yeah, is that all wireless? Like where's the wires at?

Erick:

I don't know, he's figured out some magic Dude, but here's the best part.

Jason:

Probably tucked under somewhere.

Jeff:

Hey look at the wheel, Look at the wheel.

Erick:

Oh, the soul peg, that's why you picked this one. Huh yeah.

Jeff:

Dude, peter killer setup here. Dude, he's got the bass shakers in the four corners. Was that too active? Dang bro, this is a setup boys. Oh yeah, he's even got the light down there.

Jason:

Oh, it is two active pedals.

Jeff:

Yeah, and he's got a hue light down there.

Jason:

Yeah for dramatic effect man.

Jeff:

Dramatic. Oh, it was Dude, this was a nice rig, and then he had to go put that on the PC. The McLaren. Yeah, bro, man had to go put that on the pc, the mclaren. Yeah, bro, man, shout out to daniel newman, he'll like this one oh yeah, 100 yeah, oh oh yeah, this boy did.

Jason:

He's a, he's a oh, he's not playing around, not playing around, not at all.

Jeff:

Damn. He got a hand, a ton of spare filament.

Jason:

Huh yeah, I was thinking the same thing. So what are we printing, bro, let us what are we printing, bro, let us know, what are we printing.

Jeff:

Everything and anything I'm telling you Dude Peter.

Erick:

What's it look like?

Jeff:

Killer rig. Thanks for listening, buddy. Thanks for letting us be a part of your day. Keep the pictures coming. Buddy, you get some mod updates to the thing? Send it over here, Definitely 100%.

Jason:

Thank you, Peter.

Erick:

Appreciate Definitely 100%. Thank you, peter, appreciate it. All. Right, who's up next? I mean I can hop back in. Go for it. It's a little lengthy. Okay, we appreciate the effort, though, so I'm going to share.

Jason:

This one, oh, I think I know which one this is. Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah.

Erick:

I've been wanting to get to this one. So this one comes from Ramsey. He says hey guys, my name is Ramsey. So for my start in sim racing, back when Gran Turismo 4, or back when Gran Turismo 4, got the Logitech Driving Force GT tiny wheel. Lol says race the heck out of that. Then GT time trial came out, so I got a Z27 TV and PS3 to play a free game. Oh man, yeah. He says race my heart out. Trying to get to the top of the leaderboard. Made it to 198, then got pushed off top 200 two days before the end.

Jason:

Dang.

Erick:

So then he says he raced GT5 and 6, then kind of shoved it for a while and then COVID. A lot of people's story got come through the COVID time.

Jeff:

That's it bro.

Erick:

Guilty.

Jeff:

All of us.

Jason:

Most of us.

Erick:

He says, boom, I want to race again. Got a PC, logitech again, then Thrustmaster T300, then CSL, the Club Sport 2.5, the DD1, then SimMagic Alpha Mini. Wow Jeez, lost so much buying and selling, but this is where it's at now. So I just wanted to share my rig, as many do. Space is an issue and it took a few years to work up to triples, but finally got a way to make it much more compact when not in use. Don't mind the door, it's not used.

Erick:

house divided so one so that answers our question from uh before uh, so he said so. I wanted to have foldable screens for a while, but the issues that came up were getting reliable positioning each time. Then, once I got the bezel free kit, couldn't give that up, so I played around in cad until I found a pivot point that worked. Then 3d printed some bezel free kit mounts that attached to the center monitor. It has some laser cut hinges made for the arms there's a 3d printing again yep, uh, he says the clasp lock in place.

Erick:

It's solid and lines up exactly each time. A little bit about the rig Running SimMagic Alpha Mini, shout out. Simmagic Hyper PE wheel. As soon as Houston fails, sprints Says AT Sprints. Pe button box with relay switches. Above he says they turn on remotely Wheel-based shaker amps, wind sim and some more empty ones for future projects. All wires and PSU are mounted vertically behind center monitor, then 3D printed Again a cover for it. I sent another email with video of monitor folding. Ran out of room here.

Jeff:

Yo, that is a clean setup another clean setups again my setup looked like these people with wireless like ass stuff, I know right bro, I'm like when I first saw this, I was like I said oh, I said it's hidden, but still I mean I'm ashamed. I showed my ring last the other week.

Erick:

After looking at some of these, oh yeah, y'all ain't gonna never see my rig. Yeah, I mean like, just like from every angle look at the door though like normally I'm used to like okay. As soon as we start getting closer behind it, the wires are going to start poking out and you'll start seeing the guts and there.

Erick:

There are no guts in this thing it's all in the closet and even from the other side it's like, okay, there's nothing. And then I noticed this you guys, and there are no guts in this thing, it's all in the closet. And even from the other side it's like, okay, there's nothing.

Jeff:

And then I noticed this he has literally one cable going to his wall from the roof. That's almost as bonkers as everything else.

Jason:

Everything's under the rig. It has to be.

Erick:

But then this is what he was talking about with the hinge, the hinge yeah, the laser cut. And so he's got the monitors that fold, bro, you can start up a business. Dude, dude, I was thinking the same thing. Look at that.

Jason:

Compact.

Erick:

Look how tight that is. It's basically almost within the footprint of the rig Like look at this shot from behind. That's crazy. Wild. That is crazy. The triples and he says he gets it back to the same spot every time. There's the rig and their pc. Yeah, yeah, so we see a little bit of it that's a little too clean, man.

Jeff:

That's cheating I was definitely. Let's see this what no way locking mechanism.

Erick:

Nice bro okay, yeah, dumbfounded yeah, where there's a will, there's a way. There's oh yeah, oh yeah. So that's what.

Jeff:

Yo don't let the wife see that printing. Man don't let the wife see that no dude, send us the uh yeah man sharing is but you I mean he obviously is not a rookie in like cutting metals and 3D printing.

Erick:

I mean like the geometry and the math that I don't even know what it's called to build something like that, to have the perfect angles, yeah it's crazy angles is yeah, it's crazy because he said he played around in cad so he knows what he's doing in there enough to basically know how to model it and know once he gets to a point, okay, this will work in real life and risk his monitors, you know yeah 100 man.

Jason:

No, it's a yeah man, that's really super creative though super creative yeah creative. Yeah, I tell you All right. So I have the next one, and it's by Frankie Arocho and he, oh oh, something happened to my screen. Hold on, sorry, guys.

Jason:

I don't know, so hello guys Just wanted to say you guys are doing a great job and keep it up. I love that you guys cover all types of subjects regarding sim racing. Jason, I'm a fellow Puerto Rican Thank you as well and I've jumped in your lives as Commander PR. I'm not a big iRacer but my main sim is a Settl. And because of drifting but definitely going to excuse me because of drifting and definitely going to revisit iRacing, sorry I will share a couple of pictures of my old rig and I say old is because I had to sell it due to personal reasons, but I am rebuilding and I'm almost done, almost completely basically done.

Jason:

I will also share some of the 3D printed sim gear I've done If you guys need any help. I'm pretty familiar with how to make them. But anyway, keep up the great work and, like Jeff said, go fast and break late. But it's drive fast and break late. Frankie Arrocho, all right, let me share these pictures. Bring this, share my screen for a second. If all goes well, here we go, mr Commander, so we go. Mr Commander, so we got a DDU here, nice ISO DDU 3D printed.

Jason:

That's clean. Yeah, I like it. I see you with the lovely dashboard.

Erick:

Yeah, lovely dashboard, gotta have it.

Jason:

Then we have um oh, okay.

Jeff:

He's got those look like. Are those 32?

Erick:

American Sim Racing. Check out the top.

Jason:

Is that top monitor that size, or does the picture look weird? You see that the top monitor is like cut in half.

Jeff:

I think it's just the picture. Oh, it's the backside of the picture. Yeah, okay, okay, all right, I see you with the Mo's. The backside of the picture yeah, okay, okay All right, I see you with the moza.

Jason:

I like the lights.

Jeff:

Yeah, it's got this little. Oh, that's a cool button box.

Erick:

Oh, look at that button box there you go?

Jason:

Oh yeah, I see you A little carbon fiber action.

Jeff:

Yeah, custom buttons.

Erick:

Yep, I like that.

Jason:

Check him out, bro Look at the Winsome.

Erick:

This the kit, yeah.

Jason:

Yeah, got the Winsome Custom button box with a stream deck look like inside of it. It's kind of cool yeah.

Erick:

I need to get me one of those man.

Jason:

You need to print one of those. You mean we need to talk to Frankie.

Erick:

I can't print a stream deck. I print the box though.

Jason:

Freaking Eric, check him out.

Jeff:

That's a clean look man, yeah, that's clean. This guy's got his WinSim.

Jason:

Got to stay cool bro. That was key, bro, In that Nurburgring 24.

Erick:

Oh, yeah, I bet it was. That was key, that was key. You got race logic Okay.

Jeff:

Yep Check him out you got a nice little setup.

Erick:

Oh, yeah, yeah man, I need some more. I see the kind of Inspiration bro is. I need more LEDs, more lights. I think that's what I'm missing on my rig.

Jeff:

I like it's dark. I missing on my rig. I like it dark, I turn off all the lights. I turn off all the lights and just use the hue lights and that's it.

Jason:

That's what I do to each his own. I think we got one more by Harry Mazarakis yeah, I got this one buddy.

Jeff:

Hello, jason, eric and Jeff.

Jeff:

The tutorial we've been waiting for has finally dropped. So this dude has done I'm going to just cue this up, there's a little history behind it before I read it. He does mixed reality sim racing. He dropped a video, I don't know, maybe like probably two or three months ago now, and it was badass. The dude has like the VR, but he has passed through from basically I don't know his, you know he basically could see his wheel in hands and every his whole rig. But then you look up and it's the VR of the car and you can look over and see shifter and stuff and it's super cool. And I reached out to him. I was like, hey, dude, you can't post something like this and not tell us how to do this. I mean, that's cruel and unusual punishment. So I reached out and I was like, hey, man, I actually talked about it on the show. This is months ago. Hey, just let us know, we're super interested, we'll talk about it. So he actually followed up with an email and, uh, so I'm going to read it here.

Jeff:

The tutorial we've all been waiting for has finally dropped. Would really like your thoughts once you guys try it out. Uh, we'll be doing the same also, including some upcoming vr headsets that are starting to ship below. Uh, so I'm not gonna load it up, but I'll share it. We'll share it in the in the, in the video description here. Give it a watch. It's super cool how this guy uses, like you know, a v-through to create, like I said, his hands, his wheel and then the dashboard of the car and the road. So if you're somebody that has motion like the VR gives you motion sickness, give this a try. It might help you out with that. But anyways, some of the headsets that are coming down the pipeline the Pimax Super Crystal, the Maginex, the Big Screen Beyond 2, with and without eye tracking. He does comment that the Beyond Big Screen 2 does not have pass-through, so it won't work with what he's showing and displaying to us.

Jeff:

Play for the Dream, mr. And thank you, harry M Dude. Harry M, I think what you're doing is awesome pushing sim racing to where it hasn't been before. He comes up with a pretty creative solution to, like I said, kind of show his rig but then be have the immersion merciveness of VR. So, harry dude, thank you, thanks for reaching out, Thanks for you know, obviously watching and listening being letting us be a part of your day and everybody give it a look. It's awesome what he's doing, kind of pushing the hobby forward.

Jason:

We'll put the links in the description here to that video so you guys can see how to do it, because Jeff and I almost killed each other trying to figure out how to do this. Like where the hell to how to hit impatient sobs and we kind of went over. I think it was a few episodes back. We we did look into it, but then the room needs to be super dark, right for this type of thing to work.

Jeff:

Um, but I mean, we'll give you a little hint. He puts like a, a light on his chest and that it that's what super lights up the wheel and that's what enables the pass through. Uh, but his video talks about how he does it, and the videos look badass and I'm sure with some tweaking, you too can, um, can, do it.

Jason:

But uh, yeah, I just think it's cool that somebody's, you know, with some ingenuity, is pushing, yeah, pushing the hobby where it hasn't been before I think you would need like a canopy I've seen a lot of people use canopies and like sim roofs and to darken out the rig to get it to work better. So if you're 100 vr, this might be for you, you know, if you're 100 vr, vr but for us to have open style rigs like this, you know there's some compromises, like if the wife opens the door and light comes in, now you lost the wheel.

Erick:

Lost the wheel, lost the car, lost the race.

Jeff:

I mean, it's not a big deal.

Jason:

You lost the wife. No, God bless the wife. All right, gents Roundtable. I think that's about it. For me today it's good to be back here. Anything we need to cover before we close this one.

Jeff:

No, jason. Just one more to you and the team Great work with the 24-hour race there. That's pretty cool For my portion more to you and the team. Great work with the 24-hour race there. That's pretty cool. So for my portion, drive fast and brake late.

Jason:

All right. I mean I'll tell you what I wish that we could do this together next time. Maybe we'll have a Chicane podcast team and do it as a team. But 24 hours is no joke. So I mean maybe we could do a six hour, maybe we could do a three hour yeah, four hours.

Erick:

I think that's awesome split it in three.

Jason:

You know, divide, divvy it up.

Jeff:

So get you guys into f4s and we'll do it I would love to I'm waiting.

Erick:

You guys, let me know.

Jason:

Yeah, you guys, let me know when you want to do it, we'll do it. It's hell worth. It's a lot of fun. All right, it's very uh, um, how do you say this? Like some sort of achievement. Rewarding yeah, rewarding yeah yeah cool, all right guys.

Jason:

Thank you so much. Uh, we'll cover track of the week next week and thank you so much for the questions. Keep them coming. Leave a comment like subscribe. If you want your email posted on here, drop us an email at thechicanepodcast at gmailcom and with that, have a great start of your week. Thank you.

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