The Chicane Podcast

Sim Racing Across Different Platforms; LMU Update Inbound!

• Track Ghost Sim Racing • Episode 58

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Ever wondered why sim racers are so particular about their monitor setups? This episode dives deep into the controversy of mixed monitor triple-screen configurations—combining an ultrawide with smaller displays—and why it might not deliver the immersion you're hoping for. The hosts share invaluable insights about panel matching, refresh rates, and why "just because something seems like it's working doesn't mean that it's working correctly."

Le Mans Ultimate takes center stage with its June 10th update that introduces driver swaps, team management, and custom liveries. We break down the new subscription model ranging from free to $85/year, examining whether the value proposition stacks up against competitors like iRacing. Plus, we explore how the addition of engineer and manager roles brings a new dimension to endurance racing simulation.

The Track of the Week segment transports us to Monaco, that glamorous yet frustratingly narrow circuit that's remained largely unchanged since 1929. Discover why this parade-like race maintains its place on the F1 calendar despite limited overtaking opportunities, and learn about the incredible wealth that surrounds the most prestigious street circuit in motorsport.

Ambient lighting enthusiasts will appreciate our detailed SimHub tips for creating car-specific profiles that dramatically enhance immersion. We explain how targeting specific zones and understanding how virtual sunlight interacts with different vehicle types can transform your racing experience. Whether you're preparing for a 24-hour endurance race or just looking to upgrade your setup, this episode offers practical advice for sim racers at every level.

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Jason:

This episode is brought to you by Trophyai. We discuss all things in the sim racing world. I'm your host, jason Rivera, and I'm joined here by Mr Eric Kelly and Jeff Smart. How's everybody doing today?

Erick:

Good man, Another week, Another week closer to the conference man man, the week's just whipping by.

Jeff:

But again back to the best time of the week, you know, talking, sim racing with the boys. Yes, sir.

Jason:

Hell yeah, that's what's up man, today. This week the pedals work fine. This week the pedals work fine. It's been a whole week since the incident of the shitty situation on the pedals and I freaked out because Simucube had an update. It was a minor bug fix and I did have an issue. And the first thing, I thought of was my dog, but a quick reboot and everything came back to normal.

Jason:

So this case good to hear, buddy yeah, uneventful, uneventful, uh week so far just a little busy on working on things and uneventful is good sometimes yeah yes, yes, and we're in the midst of summertime, summertime's hereertime's here, and a lot of people go on, travel and sim racing takes a backseat for most. I understand that, especially folks with families. So by all means, get out there. Kids are out of school. There's no traffic. That's the only, that's the greatest thing ever. There's no traffic.

Jeff:

I got crushed. Today you got crushed today.

Jason:

It is what it is. It's hit and miss, man. Usually it's a little lighter. There's some truth to that. Yeah, eric, how was your week, man?

Erick:

Man, my week was pretty good. I spent some time in the rig. I actually posted a question to the sim rig setup facebook group uh, earlier, just kind of trying to dial stuff in. Um, you know, watching back our episode and thinking about my homie testing my rig out, I um I ended up kind of modifying my ambient lighting a little bit and just kind of asking the facebook group if anybody had any tips or tricks for ambient lighting. You know, I know we talked about it, jason, and you know it's nice when it hits, especially like when it's dark, like it is now, and you know you have a big change in lighting. It just, you know, just adds to the immersion. But sometimes I'm feeling like it's not, as like there's times where I expect something to happen or to notice something and I'm not. So I might need to play around with it a little bit more.

Jeff:

I do wish it was more dramatic. You know, it's just like small and I find if I turn my overhead lights off it helps a lot.

Erick:

Yeah, if I'm in like, if it's like if I turn these lights off, this room would pretty much be dark, except for my screens. So there'll be times where the brightness of the screen will kind of wash out and you have two lights right. Yeah, I got two of them, but they're on like this single kind of arm, like kind of real close to each other, probably about three or four inches apart. So I might look at doing two arms, with them separate, just to get a little more space.

Jason:

I would play with the position and also save a profile per car in SimHub. Why?

Jason:

Because, yes, because cars are different. Um, and the reason why, Jeff, you may not see much of action is because you mostly race open wheeler, which is direct sunlight on top of the, on top of the you know fuselage and the car. It's not like a hooded car where there's some shadows, and when light comes in and it hits parts of of the car, then then you have some light. So my recommendation is to do per profile and try to get the corners. That's what I do. So I aim for the pillar where the sun meets the dash in the middle, because that's always changing based off the time of day and where you are.

Jason:

When you're moving around the track, the sun is shifting or you're moving around the sun shifting the light around, and that's how you get that left side effect and then you can do the right side, even for a single screen, Because if you're looking at a single screen, your FOV is probably way back to where you can actually see the whole dash you could still toss your light on the far edge of the corner. And if you have triple screens I have triple screens I have three lights, so I have two overheads which you see in the frame there and then on the arm, where my triples, where my right side of my monitor, my, my third monitor, you know, I guess I have a strip of lights literally on the profile uh, Govi lights, cause they're inexpensive and they're pretty good. Um, and I have that light, or the capture to that light, down inside where the dash, where the footwell of a passenger would go, even though these cars don't really hold passengers but then you get that sunlight that's hitting down the floor and I see that same light.

Erick:

So it's very subtle. Yeah, I've never thought about that. That's cool.

Jason:

Oh yeah, do his ass bro.

Erick:

Yeah, so we talked yeah, so we talked about it and I knew how to kind of bring it up.

Jason:

I know I'm breaking your on the pod, but um, but man shout out shout out to SimHub, because it automatically creates a profile for each car yeah automatically.

Erick:

so I just kind of take the, you know, the little spots and I'm doing something similar where, for each light, the three zones, I kind of have those, I mean like real small, to where they can like sit across the dash on one side and sit across the dash on the other.

Jason:

The smaller the zone, the better. The more accurate the smaller it is. If it's huge, then you're going to get white mixed with green mixed with blue. You know what I'm trying to say. You want that one color and if your dashboard is red, you might have to play around with that because the light's going to read it as red. Does that make sense? Or if it's too close to the actual screen of the car? You know, you got to think about all those things, you know? Another good tip before we move on and ask Jeff about his week I know we're still in the announcements phase.

Jason:

It's a good topic when you're setting up lights and you create a profile and you set it up. What I like to do even though SimHub automatically does it if I'm driving GT cars, right, gt cars are similar format from each other, so what I do is I make a copy of a profile. Let's say I'm racing a Mercedes. I make a copy of that and then I say, hey, I want you to use, I want this profile to be connected to the current car that I'm driving right now, because the game, the sim hub, recognizes the car and the car id and that way you don't have to do much right, because then you're just making micro adjustments instead of doing a whole thing all over again. And, honestly, who the hell has time to do every single car? Just do the ones you do the most.

Jason:

You drive the most, excuse me and go from there. If you found that you love the Ford Mustang GT3, then that's when you hook it up and you're like all right, I'm going to get the lighting right for this car and then you have a generic one, basically A generic one that kind of works with.

Erick:

Everything might not be to the exact point right might not be to the exact point right.

Jason:

Yeah, It'll get the highlights.

Erick:

Yeah.

Jason:

It'll get you going.

Jeff:

I didn't know that you could mix Govee and Hugh Jason.

Jason:

Yes, that's pretty dope. A few months ago they added Govee lights to-.

Jeff:

I just didn't know you could do both at the same I knew you could do one or the other, I didn't know you could do both. That's pretty dope.

Jason:

You could do both. Look at that.

Jeff:

I learned something new from the Chicane podcast today. There you go.

Jason:

It's crazy and even shout out to DNR. Danny Newman Racing. Even his lighting effects work on as many lights as you want. I think he's got a quad option, but I think sky's the limit, because you can also tie Dude. You can do all kinds of shit. There's lights that have built-in sections. Have you ever seen those lights, those strips that have section one, two, three, four, five? You can program that in SimHub as well. I know because I had a headache with the Gobi lights because they were sectioned out like that they can do that yeah.

Jason:

I didn't want it like that, I just wanted it a single light on all the time.

Erick:

Do they have a Philips?

Jason:

or the.

Erick:

Philips big section.

Jason:

Yeah, the Philips is just one. You see it up there, those guys on the top, there you go. They're doing their thing, that's their DNR doing that with the yellow flags or whatever, but it's just one single bow is what it is. Oh, okay, it's just a single, it's just this huge. The thing is, and I'll say this here, go with the Phillips Hue. They're more expensive, but go with them. I just recently purchased what is it called? Um? A pack of neewer lights for some other parts of the studio here. They're not bright at all, bro. The things are 100 right now. You put these things at 100, they're gonna blind you. So depending, you know, because it depends on where the target's set and at night, same thing. So, anyways, I hope that helped. Give it a try.

Erick:

Yeah, definitely Hit us up, man, if y'all got any ideas or tips.

Jason:

And real quick. I think your boy responded on the YouTube video.

Erick:

Oh yeah, I saw that this morning you got to check, or just now, yeah, he responded.

Jason:

So shout out yeah, you can see me in the picture. Follow me, Justin.

Erick:

My first official co-driver, I guess.

Jason:

I'll call it the first stranger in your room. Oh man, that's your baby. So, jeff, how was your week? Man, what's going on with you?

Jeff:

It was good man. I did quite a bit of driving this week, dude. I have been in AC with the content manager and it blows me away of how old Assetto Corsa is. But you start doing, loading up some of those custom shader patches and pure all those. You know all the, the, the patches that you the um, I don't know what you would call them, but it looks fantastic and I'll argue you mean the plugins.

Jeff:

The plugins, yeah, thank you mods plug yeah, the mods, mods and plugins, right, um, for three dollars and 99 cents, you can buy the brand new f1 car for 2025. Download some free skins and it is head and shoulders better than f1. Whatever year you want to talk yeah, it's, it's fantastic, like I was, and I trace the week that, whatever the f1, whatever year you want to talk yeah, it's, it's fantastic, like I was, and I trace the week that, whatever the f1 circuits on, bro.

Jeff:

They got the sound and everything, whatever the, and I understand some people like ams2 for f1, but I don't know man um content manager is it's a close second, though it is 100 and you could go one a, one B, that's fine, but to your uh, the, you know the um, the Govi lights, um racing Monaco, and you go through the tunnel and the tunnels, that yellowy colored lights, and they just, and it's dude, it's it's just shocking getting in there and knowing how good that game is, that SIM is, um, and how old it is, and then we just haven't, you know, kind of topped it in f1 world and I'll kind of go into.

Jeff:

The other one is I did see some news that, uh, there were some publications that pushed out that f1 had renewed its two-year uh agreement with ea. Or ea agree, uh, agreed to to the extension with F1. And and then F1 came out and was like to no, you know, you know credit of their own. That website that released that information was inaccurate. We are not renewing our relationship with F1. And I was like, yes, maybe somebody else will pick it up, you know, inside, but anyways, there's hope.

Jason:

There's hope. Yeah, didn't Lewis Hamilton do like a commercial or something?

Jeff:

He did yeah, he's really well. I mean, they're probably paying a shot. Who was it?

Jason:

It was the guy that plays for Paris, the soccer guy I forgot Mbappe. They were playing F125.

Erick:

Oh yeah.

Jason:

They weren't on Sims, though they were using PS5 controllers, they weren't on Sims though they were using PS5 controllers.

Jeff:

There's hope down the road.

Jason:

Maybe there's hope for Hamilton being an eSport, because right now he's doing too hot man.

Jeff:

That's a whole other topic. Yeah, I've been driving a lot of F1, buddy.

Jason:

That's kind of my week in a summary. Okay, that's what's up. How about you Triple header driving? Well see, here's the's up. How about you Triple header driving? Well see, here's the problem, and I messed this up. We're doing a 24-hour Norse Life on Friday, and this episode is now in the past, because I don't.

Jeff:

The magic of it. I hope I.

Jason:

You see the face. The face is nice and happy Because I don't know what's going to happen on Friday. I don't know if my PC is going to die, I don't know if the car is going to make it, I don't know if one of the guys is going to show up. So we have a six-man squad. You could probably see the replay. Hopefully things didn't go too crazy. But we're racing a Porsche GT3R and there's going to be the cup car Porsche on track. There's going to be TCR cars on track and the GT4. 60 cars total is the grid size On a 24 hour race.

Jason:

That is going to start late at night for me and then it's going to go through Saturday all the way to almost five in the morning. Sunday For some, not for me. For me it'll end. I don't know. I don't know. We have a big spreadsheet. We just had a big meeting about it. What's the breakdowns? So we're doing two hours each.

Jason:

So we're doing a double stint is what we call it, because a full tank of gas give you like six laps and right now I'm averaging around. I'm pretty fast. I was down in the 830s in the Porsche and the Porsche, I think the all-time fastest right now or not the all-time, but the meta right now is in the 820s 819s. But it's North's life, it's huge. There's a lot of places to gain time right With a full tank of gas. That's over an hour. We're pulling in, putting gas in and then I'm going out and then, as as soon as I come back, uh, another guy's gonna pick up the car. Then that person's gonna do the same thing. I'm probably gonna go to sleep, because it'll be one, two in the morning and it's like five, six, seven o'clock in the morning and somewhere part of the world.

Jason:

But this rig will be streaming all of it on its own, whether I'm there or not there, and the guys already agreed to read the comments for me or keep an eye on the stream. But it's a six-man, it's a six-team effort right now and I've never done it before. It's kind of like a milestone or not a milestone. It's kind of like something I've always wanted to do. I just didn't have people that were. I didn't know people that were a good enough to compete in there and to have the time to do it, cause that's a big one is having the time to do this.

Erick:

So you got to practice too.

Jason:

We did, we practiced for an hour and that was like a few laps.

Erick:

It's not even there's not many laps. I don't know what's laughing. So what's the weather-?

Jeff:

You know what I was going to say, Jason.

Jason:

Oh, go ahead, Eric, the weather is-. Now hear this the weather is dynamic.

Jeff:

It's really dynamic.

Jason:

So if the track so let me explain a little bit about iRacing weather. When you look at the iRacing weather and it says 50%, that doesn't mean 50% for the whole track. That means 50% from where the car is located at the time. So if you're in the pits, there's a 50% chance of rain on that part of the track. So if we're looking at weather on North's life, three minutes down the road, a few miles down the road, it's raining, it's pouring, and then it dries up and you go around again and it's raining, it's pouring, and you go around.

Erick:

Yep, that's wild. You got dry track.

Jason:

And then you have we're racing. I don't know if the race starts at night, but we're going to be racing through the night, through the sunrise and down at night again.

Jeff:

That's dope.

Jason:

Yeah, so the stream. Youtube has a limitation of 12 hours a stream and then it'll break it up into pieces. Twitch doesn't have that problem. So if you want to watch a continuous stream, then go to Twitch, but you might see it in pieces. Uh, because that's just how it is. There's a limitation with youtube and streaming, I don't know. It'll let you stream, it, just won't let you. You know the the recording of it to have a maximum of 12 hours, so, or nine hours, something like that jason, just remember you can't win the race in the first stint.

Jeff:

I know Sure Lose it.

Jason:

So I'm more. I'm more concerned about bathroom breaks and drinking too much water. I might, I might install a bladder You're not worried about like are you worried?

Jeff:

about like letting the team down, Like you being the one that crashes.

Jason:

I've always thought it's more more pressure just to not let the team down. I'd rather lose this position than then destroy the car totally understandable and that's what I told the guys. I was like we are not. So the lap times that I told you that I was pushing, those are push laps. There's no way in hell I'm driving that car in that manner when there's cars around me and there's slower cars and then it starts to rain.

Jason:

It's at night, it gets slippery. Maybe I have the wrong set of tires on and I have to make a whole lap around before I can put wet tires on. What happens if I put wet tires on and then it stops raining? Now I have too much grip. It's going to be. It was a monstrosity, because this it already happened. It's kind of confusing. We're recording it. It already happened. So I don't know. I really don't know what's going to happen. So that's that's in two days. Um, so that's what I'm gearing up for and overall, doing some cleanup around the podcast and making sure that things are a little more efficient. That's basically what my goal was for this last two weeks was making sure that we have a future planned ahead for the show. The show is doing really well, so I want to make a shout out here. We crossed a thousand subs here on YouTube. That means that we are.

Jason:

This channel is an official YouTube partner now, so it's very it's kind of like a light bulb went out of my head and said well, we need to. It's not like we weren't tidy anyway, but just that little more, that little touch of coherence. I don't know loss of words, I guess I don't know Loss of words. I guess Continuity, continuity, continuity, continuity is the key word here Continuity and making sure that we cover all our bases here. I know last episode we went over questions and we have a plethora of more questions and that's working through the. Some of them are new and one of them is working through a backlog. So if you've been waiting for your question, I highly apologize. It's just, it's a lot to, it's a lot to handle, but with this you know the way I set things up.

Jason:

Now I believe that there's a little bit of a better, more efficient way forward and with that, let's get down with the fun stuff. That's some boring stuff, except for the Norse life. Let's get all the boring stuff out the way. Main discussion I think Eric has our first topic, which is a main, major, massive thing, coming on June 10th. At the time of this recording, it should be out literally the next day right, if I'm not mistaken.

Erick:

Yeah, because I think Monday is the 9th and then Tuesday the 10th.

Jason:

Yes, this will be taking place Live Perfect time. It will be live?

Erick:

Yes, sir. So getting into the topic, as Jason mentioned, the 10th is going to be a big day in sim racing, especially for a little title called LMU or Le Mans Ultimate. If you're not familiar with Leont Ultimate, they are technically still in early access. They've been in early access for what A year and a half now, Forever.

Jeff:

Forever, and they're going to be forever Too long.

Erick:

Yeah, totally too long, very difficult to tell.

Jason:

No console date no, nothing.

Erick:

Yeah, it's um, you know, for good reasons and bad reasons, it's a, it's a good sim, it's a great sim yeah, I've, I've done a couple of races in it, but just kind of for me, the learning curve, especially for some of the cars and the way their online racing is set up, it's very limited, so you're kind of limited to certain cars without starting to dump money into it. So I kind of reserve all my funds for iRacing at this point.

Jason:

Don't worry, that bill gets a lot cheaper right, jeff After a while you stop spending that much. Jeff Lerner Jr Real cheaper Rob Markman Jr you just got to put a lot up front.

Erick:

Jeff Lerner Jr. Yeah, and the thing is like we talked about before. I give IRA some money and I'm not disappointed. I'm not sad. Every Rob Markman sad.

Jason:

Oh, they take care of you. Yeah, oh, we just went over some huge. That's a great point, yeah.

Erick:

I feel like it's worth it, so you can't be too upset about that.

Jason:

Right, it's like paying for an extended warranty and they actually do something Instead of calling you on the phone saying your warranty is about to expire.

Erick:

We need more money, just in case I see the funds every time I get into my car, every time I get on track when I race. Yeah, but with LMU. So they got some major changes coming and what you mentioned in the 24-hour at Norwich Slifer.

Jason:

I know, I see, I see.

Erick:

That's very interesting, because my ultimate is adding driver swaps. They're adding teams they're adding different positions. It seems pretty cool, it makes sense.

Jason:

Right, it's freaking hello. It's Le Mans, like that is the 24 hour.

Erick:

They're known for that right so now you'll be able to get, I guess, the real 24 hour experience in Le finally, a year and a half later, here we go, yeah, so so it seems pretty pretty interesting um, I know I talked to you, jason, a little bit about how driver swaps work in our racing, um, but in le mans ultimate, the way they'll happen is essentially, you'll use the MFD to select the next driver.

Jason:

Okay.

Erick:

And you'll have some different positions. So you'll have a team that you can create and you can have different team what do they call them? Team lineups, positions For certain cars, and so you'll have the driver who basically just pretty much drives the car. That's all they can do. If you're the driver, they have an engineer who can spectate team events also like roles, so they have roles yep and so that's so it's kind of cool. So I think this is, if I'm not mistaken. This is kind of like a step further than what?

Jason:

To a certain degree, to a certain degree. So iRacing does have a spec, a spotter mode. When you're doing driver swaps in these events, caveat, be very careful with that, because if you select let's say, eric you're racing, or Jeff, both of you racing on the Nords with me, and one of you click on spotter, that's going to disable the game spotter because it's going to think that you're now the actual spotter. So I don't know how Le Mans Ultimate is going to implement that, but we already spot each other right. We're on the comms, we tell you the weather, we tell you the tires, we tell you how much fuel you got. We have pit walls for that big giant screen back there. That's how we monitor how close people are to you. So race engineer right here. But that's good that they have it in game. I'm not knocking it. I'm not knocking it, yeah.

Erick:

And so to wrap up the engineer role, they'll obviously be able to see telemetry and they can set pit stop actions, so they can basically set with tires.

Jason:

That's different Stuff like that as well, because I have to manually select if I want to switch out tires or fuel.

Erick:

Yeah, Yep, they can set that for you, which I thought was pretty cool. Oh, that is.

Jeff:

Yeah.

Erick:

I always like nervous it.

Jeff:

take your mind off having to do that right yeah.

Jason:

Yeah. Because you're handing off the car, right, you're handing it off. Yep off the car, right, you're handing it off and you just handed off the car without fuel and now you waste more time In North Slate. You might not make it around again.

Erick:

Oh, you're not.

Jason:

No, it hasn't happened to me.

Erick:

It hasn't happened.

Jason:

That was back in my LFM days when I used to run out of fuel, bro, never again. I learned my lesson the hard way, bro.

Erick:

I'm happy to hear that man, I'm happy to hear that. So they have a couple more positions. They have the manager who can assign players to different car lineups, and you can assign liveries and register them for races.

Jason:

Yep, that's awesome. And you also have the team owner, who basically has all those roles, but also they can transfer ownership of the team to other owners. Rob Markman, I wonder if these skins liveries can be custom liveries and not just in game. Oh, they're custom. That's part of the update, rob Markman. Wow, okay, that's awesome.

Erick:

So I was like this I got the reading and you know this started out as like scrap notes, like let's see what's in here. Is it going to be anything really to talk about?

Jason:

And it turned into.

Erick:

okay, this is going to be a major topic, but some more notes about the team structure. Everybody can make a team for free. You can have a team of up to six players. Everybody can make a team for free. You can have a team of up to six players. But if you want bigger lineups, then you have to have a race control. Pro plus membership, of course.

Jason:

Here we go, here we go. Yeah, more of the more of the monies. And to have a team. Bro is free, well. Iracing isn't free, well, so fair.

Erick:

So you can have a team for free Up to six members. You just have one team, but if you want more than six on your team, then you have to have a ProPlus membership. And I'm just going to share real quickly.

Jason:

So listen, we're having A team, b team, c team. We're keeping this free man hey.

Jeff:

There is a free option.

Erick:

Yeah, so I'm not sure there is a free option.

Jeff:

There's a free option yeah, so you can.

Erick:

You know you can drive for free um, here we go with tears, oh my god no online.

Erick:

Yeah. So with the pro you know you get some features, uh. But the only thing you really don't get with the pro membership that you get with the pro plus. The pro plus includes DLC, so the LMU DLC and the R factor two DLC come with the pro plus membership, which kind of thought was interesting but yeah, but that's the price of it 84 bucks but it allows you to have up to a hundred members on a team and up to 10 different car lineups.

Jason:

So if you're really, basically, if you're like hosting a is this per person or is this for the owner of the team?

Erick:

The owner of the team. Okay, okay.

Jeff:

So if you split it across five people, that's reasonable.

Erick:

Yeah, so and then you're getting. No, obviously everybody has their own dlc, but, um, yeah, that's that aspect of it which you know. They started talking about subscriptions and all that kind of yeah, but fifty dollars a year, man, come on, that's.

Jason:

That's a little high in my opinion but that's not.

Erick:

You gotta have the, have the Pro Plus. You got $85 a year.

Jason:

Well, oh, yeah, cause, if you want the oh dude, yeah, that's kind of.

Erick:

It goes, goes zero to. A hundred real quick, yeah, but I guess kind of moving on a little bit. The custom liveries like you mentioned before you, you can load custom car deliveries for online events which will be visible to all participants. This feature is initially available for Race Control Pro and Pro Plus subscribers and for light players if their team owner has a pro account.

Jason:

Oh, I have some comments here, so let me wrap here.

Erick:

Yeah, so let me wrap up. Yeah, because it's eating at me, but yeah go ahead.

Jason:

Yeah, I don't know if you can see me.

Erick:

Yeah, so I'm going to go ahead.

Jason:

We're kind of at the end of it here.

Erick:

Yeah, yeah, so they do have some actual content as well. Yeah, so they got two cars in the track. They're adding. They're adding the Huracan GT3 Evo II, which is a beast of a car, dude, it just looks angry. Yeah, it looks mean. And they're also adding the Lexus. Ooh.

Jason:

I like that front end dude.

Erick:

Yeah, let me put the full respect on the Lexus. This is the Lexus RCF LMGT3. Carbon CF right Carbon fiber. Have a little carbon fiber huh, oh yeah, just a taste. That car looks like it's 3D printed.

Jeff:

By a crummy 3D printer. Oh my god, eric, but it's carbon fiber, that's a.

Jason:

that's a cool car I know jeff loves carbon fiber, bro, that that that's a little too much for my taste, but if he can get carbon fiber shorts he would, I promise you challenge accepted, if you can carbon fiber your boat, bro, would would you do it? No, make it all carbon, no Too hard, the black would just be brutal. Oh yeah, it's true, this is true.

Erick:

Painful and so the track that they're adding I'm not too familiar with it. I know they do some F1 races here. They're adding the large format and they're also adding the short circuit as well.

Jason:

What circuit is this? This is loose ale international circuit, so it's a laser scanned it looks like guys stay tuned in potential future track of the week here.

Jeff:

Yeah, yeah I think that's the one. They run f1 at it, um, is that bahrain? Um or saw or um what other? I forget. It's where they had the opening opening race that I thought oh, they did mention it.

Erick:

Uh, the laser scanned opening race circuit of the world championship I forget.

Jeff:

I feel ashamed of myself it's because we're asking you.

Erick:

That's all it is.

Jason:

No, I'm doing a fact check right now. This is Qatar, qatar. Yeah, this is Qatar.

Erick:

Oh, that's what this one is.

Jason:

So guys don't crucify us in the comments. We don't know every single track on existence. That's why we study them every week. That's why we do track of the week. Okay, so I think we'll add this to the lineup here, because it is very interesting.

Erick:

This is so. So is Qatar, also known as Luceo, Actually.

Jason:

I stand corrected, Jeff, you are correct. This is the. This is the Qatar international circuit. It's just when you watch F1, they don't really that's.

Jeff:

Qatar or Bahrain.

Jason:

No, it's the Qatar track.

Jeff:

Okay, yeah.

Erick:

Yeah.

Jason:

Yeah, it's the same track. I have it pulled up here. I didn't know it was called Luceo. That's kind of crazy. But yeah, it's Qatar.

Jeff:

It's a fast track.

Jason:

Again, we don't know every single track, guys, so apologies for that. We will do some studying and get back to you and update everybody. If you're interested, let us know in the comments below or email the show at thechicanepodcast at gmailcom. But, eric, please, I keep interrupting. Eric, I'm sorry.

Erick:

No, so that wraps up the update. Oh well, that wraps up the highlights of the updates. They're also going to be doing some changes to tire models, make some changes to car physics a little bit. They're also going to be making the changes, making some changes to the way the cars interact with the track to improve handling. They're also going to be eliminating the clutch after the first gear. Apparently, some people were abusing the clutch and getting crazy fuel savings.

Jason:

Oh, so they're cheating it yeah. They're making some changes, I see.

Erick:

Those are kind of my mind, kind of minors to some of the other things. But yeah, that wraps up the LMU update. Rob Markman.

Jason:

I would like to show real quick the Qatar so Jeff can see, or everybody can see, jeff. But this is the Qatar. When you look at it with the colors and all the graphics it's a little different. You guys see this.

Erick:

Oh, yeah, okay yeah, it says Luceo in the national right there.

Jason:

You see it right here, luceo, but then if you go up here, it says Formula One, qatar Airways. So we just call it Qatar. We didn't, I don't know that makes sense. Yeah, and Landon Norris, the homie, had the lap record last year. So, anyways, enough of that. Thank you, eric. Thank you so much LMU. Those are great changes. What I do want to say after the wrap-up is I have to be fair, we have to be fair. If LMU is your sim of choice and you don't race on iRacing and you prefer LMU, then by all means pay the money, because the money is going to give you all the DLC. It's going to give you, I say, at least the mid-tier right, the middle one, yeah, 100%. To you all the DLC. I say, at least the mid-tier right, the middle one, yeah, 100%. You don't need to have all the RF2 DLC. Rf2 is kind of old. Yeah, go ahead, eric, fight me out.

Erick:

So the thing is you have to get the top tier to include the LMU DLC. So that's kind of the only way.

Jeff:

Is that the only way you can get it?

Erick:

That's the only way you can get it oh.

Jason:

So I missed, I missed Okay.

Erick:

Now granted, you know you're saving 36 bucks. So is LMU DLC. Would you spend more than 36 bucks out of pocket buying a DLC separately? That's really the only Okay.

Jason:

Let's compare apples to apples, because I'm sure people are going to go ballistic in the comments if I don't.

Erick:

Prepare the iRacing.

Jason:

Iracing ain't free iRacing has a flat rate of MSRP is $12, $13 a month. That's with no DLC, that's just the service. So if we're going to compare it that way, then yeah, lmu is definitely the cheaper option, 100%. Now LMU, you're locked into the content that you get from, obviously from LMU, right, but it's not a lot of content. With the iRacing subscription you have list of a plethora of different racing, right, you have NASCAR, you have Dirt Rally, you have Formula Sport and I'm probably missing a few. There's so many.

Jason:

So I'd say this I keep what I said. I'll stand by what I said. If LMU is your main sim and that's what you race on and you have no other subscription and it doesn't break the bank subscription and it doesn't break the bank, me personally, I would buy it. I would pay the higher tier. In this case I'll be a little salty about it because I'll still be a little salty about it, but I will pay the money if that was my main sim, because when ACC was my main sim, I didn't care what DLC, I didn't look at the price, I just hit buy because that's the sim that I race on and I want to have access to everything.

Jason:

Same with AC, right Content manager. We mentioned AC. You need to buy all the DLC before you can do any of these mods and stuff. So you need to have that first, because that's where the game's built off of mods. But then the assets come from the, the dlc. The assets, like the buildings, the track, the, the objects they come from. They don't come from thin air, you know, they're just modded pieces of uh. You know what I'm saying, without getting too nerdy, you know so that's how I feel about it.

Jeff:

If you like LMU and that's yours, just drop some comments and let us know why you chose that over iRacing. I'm just curious of why people chose it. I think a lot of it has to do with the cars you can drive. But past that, I'm curious. I mean it's pretty good, I don't own it, I haven't driven it. I'm really curious. I mean it's pretty good, I don't own it, I haven't driven it. I'm really curious.

Jason:

It drives really well.

Jeff:

The realism Like the car, okay.

Jason:

Feedback is awesome. Sense of speed Graphics.

Erick:

Scared me. Yeah, I ain't gonna lie.

Jeff:

I prefer iRacing, but Can you get an online race just about any time? Okay, yeah, yes, pretty much.

Erick:

For the most part Okay, for the most part. So they do have their own kind of rating progression system, which you'd have to be very intentional about going in and progressing to open up.

Jason:

Yeah, okay, got a profile. You got like yeah, your safety rating Sure, all that.

Erick:

In the beginning online races they give you the race. This is the race you can race online for this week. Have at it. The more you race, the more you progress. You can move on to the next tier and have more options open to you.

Jason:

So, jeff, if you decided to jump in down this, make sure you have some time, Because to get that game dialed in it takes a while.

Erick:

All right.

Jason:

Like feedback and all this stuff. It has a crap ton of settings that don't really.

Jeff:

It's not easy. Not Markman, not intuitive, okay.

Jason:

Yeah, it's way better now than what it was when it first came out, but still there's some glitches here and there or loss of feedback. All of a sudden. It's been happening so much that they had to create a button to reset feedback. I've never had to reset my force feedback on any other sim but this one. So those little negatives out the way it's pretty good. Okay, that's cool, all right.

Erick:

Yeah, man, yeah, all right use a workaround for sim hub? Yes, you do, but it's like very like one click kind of deal is you have to use a workaround for SimHub. Yes, you do, but it's very one-click kind of deal. It's just you have to do it before you launch the game.

Jason:

And. Simhub has built-in instructions too. You click on how do I do this, and then it opens SimHub. They thought of everything to make it easy. It's built-in, you just click on the button. It's not like a Windows, a Microsoft Windows, where the help button does nothing.

Erick:

It does nothing.

Jeff:

It would be better if it just wasn't there. Yeah, just take it off, because then you wouldn't be frustrated that it does nothing.

Jason:

Yeah, and the computer is like spinning for like three hours troubleshooting your issue and then it hits you with. Google search or worse, a Bing search. Oh my God.

Erick:

Yeah.

Jason:

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Jeff:

Yeah, so I've been watching. You know, I just enjoy looking at the sim racing setups on the Facebook page on the Facebook, just to see you know what everybody's said. Yeah, there you go Sporting the uh yeah. Um, it's just cool to see you know. If you've got a couple minutes I'll just jump in there and see what people are posting about, and just it's fun to see other people's rigs and what people are doing and how they set up stuff and things like that.

Jason:

It's like a newspaper, bro. That, that thing is like a newspaper.

Jeff:

Yeah, it's awesome there's topics being talked about people showing off their setups. But what I've seen a trend start to you know a lot of questions about it, but I think we'd be remiss if we didn't talk about it. But I've seen a lot of people asking and setups that have two different size monitors for triples. So what they have is they have like an ultra wide screen in front and then two smaller curved screens on the sides. Um, and I'm going to go through the kind of what, the way I see some pros and cons to each Um and then I'm going to pass it to you guys for kind of some comments and your thoughts to this Um. So just to start with some pros, I think that it's great because it moves the seams from your traditional triples out a little bit. So it's a little bit out of your main focus area If you're not going to use the uh, the uh seam eliminators or the um, the bezel eliminators. Uh, so that's one Um. I think another one.

Jeff:

Why people do it is it's a cheaper way into triples. So people are like oh, I can jump in, I'll get a nice curve monitor. You know samsung's pushing out some really nice, the 47s, and I think they just pushed out a 51 now, um, where that gets them into the racing, uh, and that's a, it's a great monitor, um. And then they're like they just want to take it that next level for the total wraparound peripheral vision and they're like I don't want to get rid of this super nice monitor right but I want to get more, you know uh, of the immersion in the surround.

Jeff:

So they buy a you know uh, whatever monitor. I would imagine that you try to and this kind of gets into a con that I'll get to us later, but your vertical screen size is going to be very difficult to match and I'll get into that in a second. But I think that kind of color matching, oh, absolutely yeah, I never thought of that as a panel, panel panel and color matching. So we'll move into the cons here.

Jason:

Oh, there's way more cons than positives.

Jeff:

Yeah, you know, and I think you know, and I'll kind of go back to, I think, why people are doing it is it's that logical step into triples, right? I have this super nice monitor.

Jason:

You got to do what you got to do, right? I?

Jeff:

got you A hundred percent. But the cons is like, jason you said there's resolution matching, color matching all of the things that you do when you research a monitor and now you're trying to combine the two, make model Samsung to Acer, all the things that just Different panel types.

Jeff:

Yeah, different panel types, a million different things that you're going to have to troubleshoot, finding the actual, you know the vertical size to match as best as possible. And let's not leave out if you're going to use NVIDIA Surround. I can't imagine the nightmare that would happen there as you try to. You know, even if you know, like I, was saying two different manufacturers.

Jason:

You can give NVIDIA Surround the best monitor ever. You can give it a monitor that was made by nvidia, that don't exist, and it'll still crash that's so true.

Jeff:

Yeah, we're just not fans frustration kicked in um, but there's still people, some, that do it and it it looks all right, it looks pretty decent. Um, I don't say, I think if you had unlimited budgets and all this other stuff, people would just go back to more traditional. But I've covered some of the pros and cons here. But I kind of see this is popping up more and more and, like I said, I think it's because people invest in that nice monitor and then, like we all do, we keep building our rig, but they don't want to get rid of that nice monitor. So what do you guys think of Erica? Go to you first. What are your thoughts on this, as somebody that's, you know, kind of got into the, the, the, the, the single, but it's a it's a nice, nice setup.

Erick:

Is this something you've thought about? Definitely, First time I saw it I never thought about it it's something to do. But the first time I saw it I never thought about it it's something to do. Um, but the first time I saw it I was like man, that that just the ratio of like, kind of like a wider, like you're saying like a wider front screen, and then they had the two screens kind of flanking it. I was like man, it looks kind of it's kind of nice, looks roomy, but very quickly, um, you know, dealing with my one ultra wide monitor, I want more vertical space. So just to me, an upgrade from the ultra wide would be going to a more standard and I would want that same vertical space on the sides as well. And then, like you said, unless you're going like ultra wide all the way around, which would be, you know if that's your thing, you know you can do that. But yeah, mixing and matching the aspect ratios and resolutions and all that stuff, I'm like that. That just seems like such a headache.

Jeff:

Yeah, I saw, but you know before.

Jason:

I go with JC.

Jeff:

I saw a dude and this is like when you got, like when you got more money than you know what to do with is like the triple 49s, oh, okay. But when you do that, it ends up making the screen like yeah you're getting a strip. Yeah just a strip of stuff and you're like Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should do something.

Jason:

Stretched out to hell, it'll look bad. So is it my turn? Yet I'm ready. So here's the thing computers, this is the year 2025. Everything works. You plug it in, everything works if the computer, if you plug something in that don't supposed to be there, the computer beeps. Back in my day and I'm not that old, this is not too long ago, but back in my day you plug something in the wrong area, nothing works and in some cases it gets fried. So why am I bringing this up? It's because just because something seems like it's working doesn't mean that it's working correctly.

Jason:

So, computers, let's say you had a monitor that was 144 hertz and then you have another monitor that has 240 hertz. The computer is going to find that happy medium and lower that 240 hertz to match that 144 compatibility. But here's the thing Usually a high refresh rate monitor typically is a VA panel. They're the highest refresh panels out there. And then you have IPS panels, that decent right 144, 120, 165, some weird numbers.

Jason:

And here's the problem With the VA panel. You have something called ghosting, and the lower the refresh rate, the more present it is. So you just took your. These guys are 239, whatever each, if I reduce them from 239, I'm reducing image clarity, quality and stability, because when you talk to NVIDIA, surround with that, you're adding a whole different variable to a problem that didn't exist, to a software that's full of problems, and I can sense it in my bones that someone in the comments is going to say well, I have it and I don't have issues. Right, because that's the answer. But you guys got to think not everybody. You know what I'm trying to say.

Jeff:

I have it, I have no issues, it works.

Jason:

You guys can go ahead. I'm just giving you the reality. The reality is you want panels to match because you want immersion. That's what triple screens are for. Triple screens don't make you faster, they make you more aware. That makes you a little faster. Right, being aware makes you faster, but 90% of it is immersion. And that awareness when you're racing door to door and you can see how far, or you can look into a turn, which you can do with an ultra wide, but then your FOV is so stretched back that you're not seeing more than I can see, does that make sense? You can see the track being wide, but it's small, it's tiny. So that means you had to pull this screen all the way up front. Here. It's better to have a triple screen that you can have some room, have the standard arms out, wrist over wheel, which is where you're supposed is, have the wrist on the wheel back, straight feet at a 45, whatever it is.

Jason:

Everybody's body is different too, so some people are taller and I faced that problem with Jeff. Jeff's a big guy. So when I jumped in his rig I felt like Bro, like I was on a spaceship, like I was on a SpaceX because it was like way over. I was like oh, and he's like, oh, no, I'm a big dude, I'm comfortable that way, and I said all right, I'm not touching it, you're comfortable and you don't have pains. But we're talking about monitors. I don't want to drift off too much. So the answer is it can work. I'm not saying it won't. The answer is it can work. I'm not saying it won't. And there's other options other than NVIDIA, because I know they'll hit me with that one too. I'm ready for you.

Jason:

Resize. Raccoon is one of them. Then you have the Windows one that stitches monitors together, and you know what happens when you do that. You lose G-Sync in most cases, and some people rely on G-Sync, some people don't. Sometimes, when you stitch monitors together, g-sync is working Again with PC. There's way too many variables with it to give you the clear answer. But the best answers I can give you is to save up for that and if all you can afford is to combine with the monitors you have, then do it.

Jeff:

Do it because Took the words out of my mouth, Jason.

Jason:

Do it, but don't invest your money that way. Invest your money in a proper triple screen setup and a proper one. You'll thank yourself later. The only thing you have to worry about is the software acting up, not your monitors, not your colors, because that's a big thing. You can have the same exact monitor and they both look different. Add now a totally different aspect ratio and then you're shrinking. No dude, it's just. One of them is going to be longer than the other. It's going to look funny as hell.

Jeff:

I think the big takeaway here is at least from bringing it up here is, if you're going to do it, at least we want you to do it with your eyes wide open.

Jason:

Yeah, be cognizant and know that this isn't the best way to do it. It really isn't. No matter who tells you, no matter who says that it works or not, I'm telling you that it works. I'm already confirming to you that it does work. Now, does it work correctly?

Jason:

I have a hard time to say, because if you look at my background right now and you see those triple screens and you see how perfect that bezel-less kid is triple screens and you see how perfect that bezel-less kit is, if you came to my house and Jeff can attest and looked at that in real life, it looks nothing like that. Am I wrong? When you look at something from a lens perspective, it tends to miss details, unless you're shooting with a $20,000 lens to get all that detail in, and at what color? So we can go, bro, I can go so hard on this Human eye. Your age, what is your color perception? You can see blues, different than I can see blues, but I can't see your blues. I will never be able to see your blues or greens. Does that make sense?

Erick:

Got it, Having one screen and, like I said, seeing that it didn't take me long to kind of get to the point where I'm like this seems like more problems, yeah.

Jason:

And ultrawide is good for people that are constrained on space. So I'm not knocking you for having that, or if you have a single monitor, not knocking you. If you can get in the rig and race and be fast, that's all that should ever matter. But if you're, if you're getting in the rig for immersion right, when they show you these setups they're like yo, I can get this more immersive then that's where I have to say something. That's where I have something to say about it.

Erick:

You know like there's definitely a better way to do it. I mean, there's a better way the ultra wides hold their value.

Jeff:

You know, you could throw that on facebook marketplace or something and yeah, group like 75 to put towards triples, right, correct.

Jason:

So anyways, I just thought it would be it's you can also use it as a fourth monitor too.

Jeff:

That's a hell of a fourth monitor. Yeah, I was saying that'd be dope.

Jason:

Oh, but what's the problem with it being up top? You know what I'm saying.

Jeff:

You can pull it off, go for it.

Jason:

You see, same concept, same concept, all right. So thank you so much, jeff. Do you have anything to say about it yourself?

Jeff:

I think it just becomes attractive to people that want to get into triples, like I was saying, and just view this as a quicker, easier, more economical way to do it. So I don't knock it. I just wanted at least people to be eyes wide open if they were thinking about it and they're listening to this. At least now they're knowledgeable about it to make that decision.

Jason:

Yes, your mileage may vary, and that's it. That's where we're going to leave it. Mileage may vary. Things can look great, they can look perfect, and things may not look perfect or may not look great or they may look okay and you get used to it and then you sit in a proper setup. That's happening in September, so you can see proper setups. You can explore the floor and see what a proper setup is, if you can go, I understand that too. I know the not everybody's situation is the same, so I understand that too, but if you can go, We'll see you there.

Erick:

See you there.

Jason:

Chicane 10, get your 10% off all three days for the price of. F125. If I find out that you bought F125, bro or girl, and you didn't come to the Expo, I'll be upset. Anyways, it's that time.

Jeff:

What time?

Jason:

It's that time. It's that time for Track of the Week. It's that time, it's that time for Track of the Week. And today we're handing this over to Jeff for a rather controversial one. I saw a selection here.

Jeff:

Yeah, this might you know, anger some people. This might tickle. Some people Trigger some people. We live on the edge every now and then. This isn't a real track.

Jason:

We're going to lay it on thick.

Jeff:

You can't race here, so today we're talking about Monte.

Jason:

Carlo.

Jeff:

Or.

Jason:

Monaco.

Jeff:

Monte Carlo. The last track of the week we had was Indy, on Memorial Day weekend, and on the same day we had the F1 race in Monaco. So I figured it was fitting that we do the track that was on the same weekend as Indy and that it's just been the news with. It was just such a bad race. But anyways, I want to get into some of the history here. Gentlemen, before I do that, I just want to show the difference of when it started at 1929 to the current date. Jump over here Ready, massive changes here. You can sense the sarcasm coming off my voice here.

Jason:

Very little.

Jeff:

Very little, which is amazing for how long it's been you know, almost 100 years.

Jason:

I'm trying to see what the shape is like. You know, I usually like doing that.

Jeff:

Like a ladle or something Like a cigar pipe, like an old man cigar pipe.

Jason:

Yeah.

Jeff:

Well, all right. So before I dig into that, there's a quote that a Nelson Paquette I think he's just a local around Monaco, somebody will probably correct me here, but he has a great quote. It says it's quote like riding a bicycle around your living room. I thought that was pretty fitting, just how noticeably how tight the racing is at Monaco. So anyways, without further ado, I'm going to start digging into this. So racing has been held on the streets around the harbor of Monte Carlo since 1929.

Jeff:

It was the idea of the wealthy cigarette manufacturer in Monaco resident, anthony Nagojas. He plotted out a course that went around the area, the Boulevard Albert, up the Casino Square, down to Monte Carlo Station and around the harbor front, through a tunnel and then back around to basically the starting line. There used to be a big gas meter there. I don't think it's there anymore right by the start-finish line Proposed. It was approved and encouraged, took the place Let me remember where I lose my place. And so the Prince Louis III, who had to approve it, liked the idea and immediately saw the advantages it could bring in boosting the Monaco profile on the global stage, drawing in quote unquote the rich tourism across the continent in otherwise their off-season. Well, that dude hit the nail on the head. Prince Louis, yeah, that's pretty much. Monaco is where the rich and famous go to watch F1.

Jeff:

The date of the first Grand Prix was set for 14 April 1929. It was 100 laps, almost four hours, and Englishman William Groverver Williams racing under the the pseudo Williams, which I think is where the car uh racing team started from. Wow, he was dry. He won it in a Bugatti 35 Bravo. Ironically, the local hero, she wrong, was unable to take part as he was racing in this across the ocean in the indy 500. Even back in the day. It was on the same weekend. So this is interesting. I didn't you know it didn't uh that? Uh, he wanted to bugatti, but the guy was the chiron, so there had to be some linkage there. Uh, I don't know the history of bugatti, but the Bugatti Chiron is a very famous or expensive car that Bugatti makes. But I digress All right. The race grew popularity through the mid-30s Dudes, in the 30s 100,000 people came and watched the race in Monaco. Damn Regularly attended.

Jason:

They had 100,000 people in Monaco damn regularly attended. They had a hundred thousand people in monaco.

Jeff:

There hey, like spectators not just residents.

Jason:

Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, the whole city ain't it? Yeah, I mean it's still pretty.

Jeff:

I mean, it's like they just pile people on there for the for the race weekend. Um, they did uh change the chicane slightly just after the tunnel, so that is it's added. Where is it at? I think it's right after the boulevard as they go up the hill, right after the right turn from the start finish. Unfortunately, in the war, the as the war started in 1939, the cancellation of all racings uh happened. So this is just kind of interesting as our uh, you know, as the as the war starts in Europe, all these tracks kind of uh stop supporting racing for obvious reasons. Uh, when peace returns, uh, it was Anthony Nagos who once again was the event champion. He's won it a couple times.

Jeff:

No race in 1949. Here let me move along. Here, as you can see the massive changes to the track. Where am I at? Oh, we're still at this one. We're still at, yep, we're still in 49. So in 49, the death of Prince Louis III stopped the race. That year Everybody was mourning, apparently. But in 1950, it included the round two of the Formula One World Championship. The following year, the race was canceled due to budgetary concerns and because the rules for new cars had yet to be developed in 1953. Here I'll jump ahead, as we're about to switch over 1953, 1954, the.

Jeff:

Grand Prix was not held, but for 55, it was a regain its place in the world championship, continuing a run which has been unbroken to the present day. From that event onwards, the start moved forward. Unbroken to the present day. From that event onwards, the start moved forward, uh, moved next to the waterfront. If you watch this it goes. The race goes right along the water. It's pretty, um like, it's pretty spectacular to watch.

Jeff:

Um, a few hundred meters behind this gas meter corner, uh, famously, like I was just saying about the water, alberto a satyr plummeted into the harbor when he lost control through the chicane. I always thought about that. As they're driving like, has anybody happened to actually like go into the water? Uh, luckily, the foresighting for foresight, foresight, excuse me, of the planning team that put the race on, had patrolling frogmen who soon fished out the italian driver and rescued him and his car. Uh, shortly after the next year, surprise, gentlemen, the chicane was narrowed to slow down the cars. Um, surprise, surprise, we do see that, that the, the tracks are modified here to slow down some of the cars. Um 1963, still here, the start line moved back alongside the pits in 1963 and the new staggered two by two grid formation was introduced, uh, to try to slow down the the odds of the the first corner collisions. That ain't going to stop first corners.

Jason:

No no.

Jeff:

So they did that following the crash of Lorenz Bagatti in the chicane in 1967. And it was moved 100 meters closer to the first corner to slow down. That first corner issues 1973, again moving forward here, massive changes to the track.

Jason:

That one's uh 72 right, oh yep sorry, we'll go one more, one more a little bit.

Jeff:

You can see the so in 72, the demand of the drivers for future in or for further increases in safety and requirements for the pits, uh, had to be permanently barriers installed. Uh, you've seen the track. Currently the pits are brutally small. Um, so they built temporary repositioning with no room for the start finish line separation there the pits. If you watch it, the back of the pits is the start line. It's that tightly squeezed into monaco. There's just no room there, uh, to operate.

Jeff:

Yeah, um, so it's doubled basically yeah, I'm gonna move ahead here into 1976, excuse me. The alterations were made to rascasse and stay devant. So rascasse, uh is the corner, uh, kind of the two hairpin corners right before the start finish. This was done to slow down the cars, while in 1986. The left-right chicane, which had increasingly been taking it at alarming speed, was replaced with a new chicane closer to the tunnel, to the exit. This is the one currently. That, uh, I believe. Um, george russell just decided not to do and uh passed the williams car that was blocking him for like he just said I he's like I'll take, I'm going.

Jeff:

So this is this is super interesting part in uh. Monaco decided, uh, to do a land reclamation from the harbor. When you're that wealthy, you just build land over the water, giving the benefits of spaces for a small area of a runoff. It also slowed the cars down considerably, adding to the chicane because they had more land there to build over the water, and it also evened out a big bump there that is still there to this day. It's just not as bad.

Jeff:

And then 1997, the original S-Bend around the swimming pool here. So if you look here, there's a swimming pool here that the track goes around. It's a huge, olympic-sized swimming pool. It was redesigned with better barriers. What a novel idea. And then, like so there's a swimming pool here, but all right, in here is the harbor and there's like Just water boats Yep, gajillion dollar boats sitting there. The S-Bend around the swimming pool is redesigned, with the barriers moved further back, a new section named Verage Luis Chiron. Right in here, right by the swimming pool, uh was in in honor of the 1931 gp winner and the longtime clerk of the course in 2003. Where am I bam here? The land reclamation project was complete, giving a much needed additional space to the pits and it has pretty much remained unchanged since, just very minor track changes. I think they added this little runoff area here.

Jeff:

So if you have brake issues, you don't just go slamming into the tunnel, you actually have a little bit of runoff. But I'll leave it there for now just to walk through their formula e races here on a different week they have a little bit different modified track, but it is other than that. And the f1 weekend where they race f2, no other formula or, excuse me, no other class races um, but I think a big thing why monaco is um so um popular is just the vibe. If you haven't seen f1 in monaco, the vibe is like nothing you've ever seen before. Um, they have these gajillion dollar, but like I'm talking like half a billion, like legitimately $200 million yachts, jason, like 10 feet off the track. You know it's just spectacular to watch just the wealth that is around Monaco. F1 weekend is especially in the eighties, bro.

Jason:

Like the old formulas, like it there. Like you watch some memes or not. Memes reels on Instagram with 80s music.

Erick:

We missed it, man, we missed it. Yeah, we did, we missed it.

Jeff:

Like damn. There's a lot of things that are better now, but damn. Monaco in the 80s was like.

Erick:

Can you imagine watching F1 on a yacht, on a boat?

Jason:

I'm telling you, man, we're going to take Jeff's boat out there. Yeah, right up from Hawaii.

Jeff:

There's like bigger boats on people's boats than I have.

Jason:

How much fuel do we need to get there, Jeff? I don't know. Let me know.

Jeff:

I don't think my boat can carry enough fuel to get there. Jeff, I don't know, let me know. I don't think my boat can carry enough fuel to get there. Uh, super cool track. Uh, the track I won't say is super cool, but the vibe around the race is unmatched yes, it's a big party.

Jason:

It's like miami, even though miami's track is a little better, but it's a. It's a party city. It's a. It's a rich and famous glamorous.

Jeff:

the tradition, right, it's been racing there forever Um unfortunately yeah. F1 is signed on it for for the next like 10 years there's plenty of other tracks that I wish they'd get rid of, and it ain't going nowhere. Like spot is every other year. Now you know how unbelievable racing. But monaco is just the vibe. It is what the funds, funding everything money is what makes the world go round and, like 90 of the drivers live in monaco, I'm sure that helps yeah, yes, they do so I think uh.

Jason:

Uh, leclerc lives there. I forget. I know toto lives there. He's got an apartment in lando I won't say they live there.

Jeff:

They claim residence there because there is zero income tax in Monaco.

Jason:

Oh, yeah, oh so this is why? So we're moving to Monaco, all right, so the Shaquing podcast will be aired out of Monaco from here on out Out of Monaco, yeah, out of Monaco.

Jeff:

Like put a Monaco or uh yeah, monte carlo flag on so monte carlo, I, you know they have um.

Jason:

I'm not sure if it's related or not, um, but I know that rally racing happens up there too. It's not on the track, but it's in the same like geographic just out of the city area. Yeah, I know porsche started racing on there too. Um, if you have f1 tv you can see they, they, they do that porsche cup league that you saw in singapore.

Jeff:

I take it back. Yeah, so other, I think I said uh, f1 and f2 are the only ones that race there. There's only racing there on f1 weekends.

Jason:

They have the p cups, f2 the maybe have the ff, the f1 academy there yeah, but that's it, but that's it.

Jeff:

And then they have formula e some other weekend, and that's it. I mean it's crazy they open the track up like immediately after the race for like local people to get home there's not enough room in monaco, dude.

Jason:

This is really tiny and honestly, I don't roads I don't get it. I need to visit. I just I don't understand why it's so expensive over there. I really don't.

Jeff:

I there's so many a lot.

Jason:

I don't know. I don't know. Italy is right there. You go to italy. It has beautiful places for like a fraction of the cost. I don't know. It's is right there. You go to Italy. It has beautiful places for like a fraction of the cost.

Jeff:

I don't know. It's where the wealthy go to hide their money. Man, there you go.

Erick:

No income tax.

Jeff:

We're going to Monaco, it's a little bit of chop Chop. I don't know anything about chop Chop your credit card.

Jason:

Oh, man, I love that movie.

Jeff:

Buffalo Street man.

Jason:

I love that movie Buffalo Street guys highly recommend. Careful with the kids on that one, very careful with the kids on that one. But thank you so much, jeff, for taking care of track of the week. This week, monaco's it's a great track. It's just not the fastest track. Right, it's got its history, though. I agree with you, it's got its history, but it's not the most exciting track. This year felt like I was watching a parade. Basically they were parading F1 cars around for us to see them.

Jeff:

68 parade laps.

Jason:

Yeah, that's about it.

Erick:

Oh man.

Jason:

But it was an excuse to grab out a drink and hey, I take Monaco over no F1 weekend, all day, 100%.

Jeff:

Come on, come on, you know, it's true, we got no race this weekend, so I'd watch another Monaco 100%.

Jason:

I would watch. If Monaco was this week, I'd be watching Monaco.

Jeff:

Yeah, over no race 100% Over no race.

Jason:

100%, we got to look at. We got to reduce it all the way down to that because that's how bad it was, oh man, yeah. So we had some plans to go over questions today, but I'm looking at the clock here and we're reaching our limits here on time. So for those of you that have emailed the show and waiting for a response, just hang tight, we'll get to those. We'll make that top priority for the next episode. I think we had a bunch of things that we wanted to put in this episode and, like every other episode, we always run out of time. I mean, we just don't have enough time. So, any roundtables, guys, what you got for me.

Jeff:

I've got nothing. Man, Drive fast and break late.

Jason:

There you go. Thank you so much, guys. I really appreciate it For real. Keep emailing us, send us questions, leave comments below. Send us an email at the chicane podcast at gmailcom. I want to see you at this expo. We are now. We're peaking at the time I can see September is just down the road. So make a decision, decisions, decisions, make a decision. I'm telling you Go ahead and lock in. Lock it in, lock it in. So Chicane 10, we get zero kickback, by the way. You can ask George.

Erick:

Anyways, shout out to Big Georgie, anyways, shout out to Big Georgie.

Jason:

Yeah, shout out to Big Georgie and yeah, thank you guys and have a great Saturday week, thank you.

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