The Chicane Podcast

3D Printed Sim Racing?

• Track Ghost Sim Racing • Episode 43

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Ever thought beans on toast could spark a global debate? Neither did we, but here we are unraveling the heated discussion that left half our listeners craving the British staple and the other half utterly bewildered. Join Jason Rivera, Eric Kelly, and Jeff Smart for a rollicking ride through the world of sim racing and British culinary oddities. Jeff shares a hilarious tale of tracking down UK beans in Hawaii, while Eric's story of receiving a 3D printer from his wife for Valentine's Day sets off a cascade of creative possibilities. 

Get ready to immerse yourself in the vibrant worlds of sim racing and vintage gaming. We spotlight the passionate community behind the revival of Richard Burns Rally, a classic game given new life by Rally Sim Fans in Hungary. From examining co-driver pace notes to the dynamics of AMS2 and Assetto Corsa, we explore the intricacies that make sim racing an exhilarating experience. Along the way, we highlight the camaraderie within the racing community, offering insights and tips for both seasoned racers and eager newcomers.

Our adventure doesn’t stop there; we also explore how 3D printing is revolutionizing sim racing setups. We rave about the Bamboo Lab A1 printer, discussing everything from its user-friendly features to the creative potential of various 3D printing materials. Whether you're crafting custom components for your rig or just dreaming of your next project, we're here to inspire your creativity. Finally, we journey through the storied history of Sebring International Raceway, celebrating its legacy and reflecting on its evolution over the years. Tune in for a blend of humor, history, and hands-on advice that promises entertainment and enlightenment in equal measure.

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Jason:

The Hello and welcome to the Chicane Podcast, where we discuss all things in the sim racing world. I'm your host, jason Rivera, and I'm joined here by Mr Eric Kelly and Jeff Smart. How's it going, fellas?

Jeff:

Going good man, Going good Good to see you guys Going well, going well, ready to see you guys, ready to dig into it. Got a bunch of stuff to cover today.

Jason:

Yes, sir, we are 43 episodes in. I'm counting down to that.

Jeff:

Chugging right along.

Jason:

Yeah, man, so excited. I don't really have that many announcements. This week it's been relatively quiet. Um weather's been all over the place here in hawaii I know right jeff can tell you, uh, probably ruined some people's plans because it was very nice when you woke up and then, when you went to leave, it was a thunderstorm, and if it's raining on this side of the island, it's raining everywhere.

Erick:

That is the truth. Yeah, that is the truth.

Jason:

If you go outside and it's raining here, oh man, it's raining everywhere. So not much from me, just excited to be here and happy to see the many comments on the YouTube channel. It's been fun to engage with you that way, so keep that coming, and I think today-.

Jeff:

Can I yeah, go ahead. I just got a statement. I guess this is here, but God bless America. Of all the stuff we talked about last episode, the thing that got people triggered was what they put on their toast and how they put on oh look, I knew that was going to be a sticking point.

Erick:

I've seen some other stuff online people talking about beans on toast and it's. It's really kind of polarizing. It's like you're for it or it's the most disgusting concept known to man and that's. I knew that was going to be-.

Jeff:

Dude, there was like tuna fish, there was like fried something or other.

Jason:

I'm Puerto Rican guys, that's not a secret on this feed here. I just I can't get. I tried it. I told Daniel Newman, dnr shout out to DNR, the GOAT, which is on vacation right now in NYC.

Jeff:

So watch your back bro, it's not UK.

Jason:

NYC could be. Be careful. Be careful out there.

Erick:

Keep your head on a swivel. Yes, sir, that's it.

Jason:

Walking down the street. It's beautiful in the daytime, but at night just be careful. I tried it and I tried the beans on toast. It was edible. That's all I'm going to say, rob Markman.

Erick:

Jr. That's a hell of a take. It was edible.

Jason:

It was. I gave it the time of day. I'm a man of my word. I said I would do it. And newsflash they don't have these beans in Hawaii so I had to order the stuff. It cost me a fortune, like $20 for a can, For like a can, a pack of six or something.

Jeff:

It probably cost you, oh, man yeah $1.99 at Walmart back in the state or the mainland?

Erick:

What you going to do with the other five?

Jason:

and a half cans. Man, that's what I was going to say. We haven't really done a giveaway on the show. We're not there yet, we're not at that capacity yet. I will send you some beans from the UK. Let me know if that interests you. I'm dead serious. You might get a package and I'll use this from Jeff, from Max Verstappen just to conceal that identity which? Is kind of amazing. So anyway, that's it for me, man. So over to Eric. What's going on with your week, man? How's it going?

Erick:

Yeah, my week was great. Valentine's was this past Friday and lo and and behold, my wife she's, you know, she's great. She heard me talking about 3d printers and she kind of asked me some probate questions earlier in the week and I didn't give her enough detail for her to make the decision on her own. But while we were out friday, I took the day off and we went um, did some valentine's stuff. We went, did some Valentine's stuff. We went to one of our favorite coffee spots and then took her to get a mani-pedi and we got something to eat and we were just kind of going around and, if you don't know, she's a developer, so she's very tech savvy, borderline nerdy, if you will. And there's a place here called Giga Parts which is like best buy but for actual people with like hobbies, like you want to build a ham radio.

Jason:

Like circuit boards and stuff.

Erick:

Yeah, like they have all the parts there. Like you want to build a Raspberry Pi from scratch? They got them right there ready to pick up, like it's a cool, cool local place. And we were there and she asked me about a 3D printer. Again I was like, oh yeah, this is the one that I was looking at getting. And she was like that's it. I was like, yeah, she was like I was looking at getting one that was like $800, $900, but oh man, really.

Jeff:

Misjudged the temperature on that one.

Erick:

Oh man, but because this is the particular one I've been researching, went ahead and got it, but I'll save that for my actual discussion piece. But I do have a 3D printer and I want to give you guys some feedback on it.

Jason:

Oh, that's what's up, I mean. So she bought the printer. That's the most important thing. It didn't come out of pocket.

Erick:

Best Valentine's ever. So how about that Best Valentine's ever?

Jeff:

So how about?

Jason:

that.

Jeff:

Now you can print the mounts.

Jason:

Now you can print the mounts to mount it up.

Erick:

I've got a whole. It's crazy.

Jason:

The ecosystem, the you know you messed up.

Erick:

Eric, big time, it's crazy.

Jason:

Yeah, you let the wrong two individuals know that you have a printer.

Erick:

Hey look, I'll be sharing with you guys. I hope so. You're kind of far though. So I'll say this If I give you guys an app, you can just send stuff to print to my printer.

Jeff:

Oh, that's cool.

Erick:

But we'll talk about it in the discussion.

Jason:

Dude be careful what you ask for, bro, what you wish for.

Jeff:

He's going to wake up and have some-.

Jason:

I know he's going to wake up and the machine is like smoking.

Erick:

That's what I was worried about these past couple of days. For real, it's been printing nonstop.

Jason:

Is it printing now? Can't wait to hear about it.

Erick:

Is it printing now? Pretty, it's not printing now because you, okay, definitely hear it all right.

Jason:

Well, that's awesome news. That sounds like a great week all right so over to jeff. What's up, jeff? What's going on with you?

Jeff:

no, just uh kind of quite like you, gentlemen, uh, just kind of chugging along, had a nice weekend. Um, then I had a little moment of weakness. My good good friend, crown, royal and Coke got me. Oh, and I pulled the trigger on that Simagic Q1 sequential shifter because I've been doing a bunch of the racing where you really need a. It just adds to the immersion having one and not the round wheel. So, yeah, so that will be arriving here shortly. I go on travel for work here, uh, in a couple days, so when I come back it'll be waiting for me. So I got that to look forward to.

Jason:

So this always happens to you. You always order stuff and then you leave and then you're like hey, can I ship this to your house bro? I did sure can you go pick it up? What if they leave it outside? My wife will be here, no, but I'm saying every time he orders something high end or whatever he leaves.

Jeff:

I know and it's the crazy part Like I'm only gone for two nights, so maybe it probably won't beat me by the time I'm gone. But yeah, I'm excited to get back from that trip and get it going.

Jason:

I hope it does, man, because no better feeling. You come home and it's there, so let's go baby.

Jeff:

Yeah, hey wife, hey kids, see you later. No, no, no, handle your business, of course.

Jason:

By all means Don't get beat up.

Jeff:

You know, you know late at night and you um quick unboxing. You know, yeah, I'm a little nervous. They say it's it like one of the downfalls, or the cons, if you will, is it's, it's got a good click to it as you're switching gears. But that's a first world problem it is a loud ass shifter it is I'm gonna tell you right now but everybody's like that. You didn't the price, you didn't consult me, man you consulted Crown, Royal and Crown.

Jason:

Royal said yeah, it'd be fine, don't worry about that. You didn't. I woke up to a message that says I bought it. I was like whoa damn. Not saying it's a bad thing, but it. Well. You have a room down there, maybe, if you close the doors.

Jeff:

Yeah, I mean, put some towels on the door. That shit is loud, bro.

Jason:

A big portion of it was that it was on like 30 off, so you know it's normally like three interesting.

Jeff:

So how much if we can ask man yeah, uh, it was like two and change low twos, oh, that's not bad that's what I paid for the q1s, which is a lesser. You got a better one than mine another thing was just like I was nervous that you know that was like 30% off is not insignificant, yeah, so yeah, can't wait to get back are there any mods to quiet it, though, like do those exist?

Jason:

you don't want to quiet that. I don't know if he gets it in.

Erick:

It's like unbearably loud getting complained every time he's running through the gears.

Jeff:

Yeah, then we'll research that, but until then, let freedom ring.

Jason:

I already told him a mod Eric, the towel on the door to insulate the sound.

Erick:

Touche, I did miss that.

Jason:

And if you really want to get fancy, put a white noise thing right by the door fancy put a white noise thing right by the door, problem solved.

Jason:

Yeah, just add more noise to cancel out the other noise. People will be falling asleep left and right. Well, that's what's up, guys. Welcome back to the show. Those are way better updates than mine, I guess, I mean. Yeah, happy Valentine's Day. I completely forgot about that. I went to the UB40 concert, which was kind of cool. That's kind of my date night, but I didn't get a 3D printer when I got home.

Erick:

Yeah, you know, Maybe my wife. She's the Valentine goat this year. I'll tell you that.

Jason:

I mean, if someone's watching the show hint, hint. So anyways, today is kind of exciting. So, anyways, today is kind of exciting. I have teased this a few times. You know, Richard Burns Valley, RBR Rally Racing is old as hell. I think it's like a 2004 game. And a lot of those games right, yeah, a lot of those games were built on the older DirectX 7 or 9. I forget which one it was, and they just simply don't work on modern PCs. However, a place called Rally Sim Fans out of Hungary found a way to mod the game with a plugin to get it to work on modern systems. And they have it all. They got triple screen support. They have SimHub support. They even created their own force feedback plugin right, it's the NGP plugin which I will share my screen right now, Dude people are awesome.

Jeff:

That's crazy. People are awesome.

Jason:

Oh, and guess what? You know how much this thing costs. It's $0. It's free of charge. You can go in there right now. They have over 400 tracks. 400 tracks over 90 gigs. Where's my notes? They got over 90 gigs of content for you to download right now for free.

Jeff:

And it's all in one spot. Content manager zone.

Jason:

Yeah, right, so content manager. Go ahead, eric. What's up?

Erick:

No, I'm just saying this definitely like content manager. That's crazy.

Jason:

So they created an installer which I'm going to walk you guys through, and content manager is great. It is probably the best modded thing I've ever used. You know modded uh, manager, I guess. Um, but these guys created a installation like a windows installation, where you have to click next multiple times and, if and if they ask you if you want to agree, you agree, cause you know you guys don't read this stuff. Come on, don't play with me. So yeah, so, let let me, let me share my screen, um, so I can walk you through what, where to get it, how to install it. Um, where are you there? It is. So this is the website.

Jeff:

Very simple, rally, it almost looks sketchy, you know it's got like a early 2000s internet, feel definitely definitely, yeah, definitely a dream weaver kind of feeling.

Jason:

So if you want me to go through the change log, as you can see, and this is dude. This is free of charge. I can continue. Dude somebody loves them.

Jeff:

Some rally racing.

Erick:

I was about to say this is a work of love, oh yeah, definitely.

Jason:

So here you have your leaderboards, you have your stages. I'm going to just click on this and these are the rallies that you can participate, because the game is online and they actually have events where they'll travel from Canada down into Mexico and you rally your way down every week. I'm serious, what that's cool.

Jason:

That is cool. So you have your championships here and you can see the number of rallies. You can see the score system. The rules See the rules. You can see the entry list. Let's see how many people are in here. So we got 11 entries. Okay, not too many people, let's go back.

Jeff:

I bet those 11 people are good.

Jason:

Oh yeah, there's bigger events, though I think it's well. There's so many to choose from. Holy cow, that's crazy, yeah. So look at this e-rally Croatia championship that it goes through. Let's check it out. Just an example. You can see the rules here again, this one's way more involved.

Erick:

Wow.

Jason:

Yeah, and you can see the categories of cards you can use. This is all free, guys. You can go and download this right now. So how do you get it? First of all, you create an account so that way you can register for these and use the, you know, basically play the game. You don't have to register to play the game offline, but everybody wants to play online at least, right? So you hit download Now you can read through this, but they have an installation guide here which I will share. Let me stop this one and I will share that installation and go through that with you guys, bear with me. So here it is no donations or charges. Ngp is the Next Generation Physics by Workerby up-to-date physics and general game improvements. And then these are all the plugins. So you got a paste note plugin. You have the RBR HUD, the controls. It works in VR, eric, so that might be something that interests you.

Erick:

What? 21 year old game working in VR? That's crazy man.

Jason:

Look at this RBR triples plugin so you can get NVIDIA Surround working natively in this game.

Jeff:

People are awesome.

Jason:

Yeah, dude, this is how you do it. You download. I'm gonna summarize this because it's a lot. So you, you download a torrent file very safe, just get a torrent, get bit torrent. I think they recommend qubit right here. The rsf team rally sim fans team recommends using open source qubit torrent as a torrent application. But any app, you know, any app will work. So you download the torrent, you put the files in. They tell you do not put it in this location. I'm summarizing. This is what the installer looks like and look 60 to 90 gigs worth of space, if you want, for the over 400 or so modded stages. That is wild, yeah, so good internet.

Jeff:

You're gonna be waiting forever, yeah yeah, they have a server.

Jason:

It's like you connect to their server and it's not like content manager I was just going to mention earlier. You know content manager. You have to find the mod and then put that into Content Manager and install it. This is one installation file. You click next and you choose what you want. These are the plugins that you can install if you want to use those. And then these are the updates updates tire, wear, flag icon, all the options, the Microsoft updates. You want to install those. You want to follow these to the T?

Jason:

Then it has a launcher. This is what their launcher looks like. If you want to launch it directly into virtual VR virtual reality then you click that button and you select your resolution, v-sync graphics, you name it. So here's another look at your, basically the launcher. And then this is how you register online and you sign in. You sign in through the launcher right here where you put your details, and it automatically sign you in when you start. And yeah, that covers the setup. Then it tells you keyboard shortcut guide, if you want to look at that, rob.

Erick:

Markmanis, is that a mouse?

Jason:

This guy mouse, rob Markmanis, it's a mouse, oh man, oh man, rob Markmanis. Oh, he went there, my man, rob Markmanis. This game is next level.

Jeff:

Man, ooh, that's low, that's low for you EA if you're watching oh that was the comment of the century 21-year game man Listen.

Jason:

EA. I will go back to school and learn some coding and put the damn mouse in your games.

Erick:

Please let me know. I'm just saying VR is one thing, but mouse support.

Jason:

Come on. Oh yeah, your mouse will work in VR too.

Erick:

It should. Okay, they're just flexing now.

Jason:

So that's Rally Sim fans. Guys, it is not the prettiest looking game, I want to tell you that. But the physics it is regarded as the most realistic rally physics you'll ever put your hands on. It's hard, it's difficult and I'm pretty sure when our users, when you guys, watch this video, there's probably RBR fans that can back me up here on how difficult it can be to drive these cars. But it's very rewarding and it works. With all our hardware, all the hardware that we have, it works. So if you're new to sim racing and you have a passion for rally, if, if, if rallies one of your passion, or if you have a low end PC, you can run this for free, you can download it for free and start driving away. So that's just a quick look, I guess, on RBR. It's cool man.

Jeff:

Because every now and again I want to get in and just jump back into WRC. But it's cool that there's. I didn't even know that this was out there, that there was another. So thanks for bringing it up. Man, I appreciate it. It's just, you know, every night I'm not a big rally guy. Obviously it's very hard with the wheel, but it is super fun to just get in there. And well, jeff, you just picked up a sequential shifter. It might be that time.

Jason:

It might be that time, and here's the thing, guys. So, like you know, a lot of us have different schedules, different times and stuff, you know, for racing for racing, I mean, and sometimes Jeff and I live out here and it's hard to find a race, sometimes depending on the sim, unless we've been using a lot of iRacing, because of that mainly, and iRacing is awesome At the same time it's a win-win. But with this online, the way it works, it's not, you're online in real time. It's just that this week we're in Croatia and we're on track two or stage three or whatever it is, and you just do your rally and you post your time and then next week it'll go to the next one. So there's a little flexibility on you know. Okay, you see what?

Jeff:

I'm trying to say you know that is super cool and and you know I know we we crap on f1 a bunch. But when I did use uh, you know the f1 23 is I think it was 23 was when I really started using. It was they had like the track that this f1 series was at and and you could do a. You know it was like post your fastest lap of the day or you know you'd race AI and whatever it was but and there would be a leader board throughout the season. That was cool. So in what you're saying is, hey, the Croatia series is there moving around and you just get in there when you can Exactly and run your stage.

Jason:

That's super cool up a little earlier, maybe do a little exercise. I know Jeff likes to go for runs sometimes in the morning. You can jump in there 15 minutes post your rally time and go about your business, and you're still competing in the championship, you're still trying to get better. I think it's great, that's super cool. I think it's absolutely awesome and it's free. You can't yeah, that's cool, that's hard to wrap your head around.

Jeff:

It's free. You can't. Yeah, that's cool.

Erick:

That's hard to wrap your head around. It's free. Another piece like are they interested in Midnight Club, Specifically Dub Edition? I'm just saying I know I know at least one person that would fully support you, buy you coffee or something like that. That's it, if you guys were to stand up. Midnight Club Dub Edition. I'm just saying Right One guy, right here, sure somebody else had that man.

Jason:

So RBR, that's kind of a I say a quick overview, because there's a lot With 90 gigs.

Jeff:

there's got to be a lot. Yeah, there's custom pace notes.

Jason:

You can customize the actual pace notes on the track so you know how you have your co-driver and he's telling you turn by turn. You listen to those guys.

Jeff:

It's like a different language. Sometimes you listen to it. They're like right two left over one, peak one, three, four, seven 80, hold break into yeah.

Jason:

But it's kind of nice when you learn how to listen to that and you stop looking at the prompt. I highly recommend people getting into rally. Just turn the prompts off. Turn the prompts off, keep your head, keep your eyes on the road, that's the best thing. And just listen, because the stuff that he's telling you is based off speed, how fast you're moving and how fast you're approaching. So he'll say, if you're going at full speed, he's going to say, all right, 80 meters, 20,. That means the next turn is coming.

Jason:

Five If it's a high number, the higher the number. I think the max number is six. If it's a six, right, then that's like the easiest. Six, like the what do you call this? A short, like a wide. If it's a four, three, then the smaller, smaller. You got to turn. You know what I mean. If it's a one, it's damn near 90. And if it's a hairpin, you're down in first gear and pulling the e-brake to get around the hairpin. So just look at it that way From the highest number to the lowest number, the lowest number meaning the sharpest turn. But sometimes it's not that simple. You got like a three into a one, into a two into a.

Jeff:

You're like oh shit, you know what I'm saying I can't remember what I ate for breakfast and he's giving me three turns ahead.

Jason:

Yeah, sometimes you straight up lose him. You're like, oh, what did he say? So rally is the only time where I turn music off. When I'm practicing, when I'm racing music's off, when I'm practicing music's on Rally, the music is always off.

Erick:

You gotta hear.

Jason:

The co-driver. Yeah, so that's RBR. If you guys have any questions, email the show at thechicanepodcasts at gmailcom or leave a comment. I'm pretty sure there's a healthy RBR fans out there that will chime on this and give this a try. I'll leave the links to where you can get this. And they have a big Discord community, which, of course. Discord is like the book to everything. Right, it's like the manual to everything, the digital manual you always need whatever you get into sim racing wise, you might want to check if they have a Discord Highly recommend. So that covers my section on RBR. It's really fun. It's a lot of fun. Check it out.

Erick:

Yeah, yeah, I'm going to download that man because I'm very interested in just this rally in general and taking your advice and turning off the prompts, because that usually is what happens. I'm trying to look at the prompts and I don't really pay attention to what they're saying and the prompts just aren't enough information.

Jason:

And they're fast.

Erick:

You know they're changing and moving and so, yeah, I think I'm gonna take that advice.

Jason:

And actually turn. I recommend anybody that has a sim racing setup on PC. I would turn the entire HUD off, you know, as you have a small dashboard that can let you know what you need to know, which. That's what Lovely Dashboard's for. You don't need to have any distractions on the screen. You really don't.

Jeff:

You don't need Like an immersion too, in my opinion.

Jason:

You don't need a map or any of this stuff unless you're practicing. If you want that, or if you're looking at lap times, again, practice. But if you're just racing, you just want road and vehicles. That's it, I understand that?

Erick:

Yeah, that definitely makes sense. All right, that's cool.

Jason:

So, eric, let's hear about this 3D printer, which I'm jealous, definitely makes sense. All right, that's cool. So, Eric, let's hear about this 3D printer, which I'm jealous. So, you know he beat us to it, Jeff.

Jeff:

I know, man, We've been complaining about it for a while too.

Erick:

Hey, I tried to give y'all some time, man. Oh yeah, my wife. She had a different plan in mind and of course I'm pretty sure there's some things she might have seen she wants printed as well.

Jason:

Oh yeah, it's never a one-way street.

Jeff:

Small price to pay, small price to pay.

Jason:

She knew exactly what she did when she bought that printer.

Erick:

Let me know. I'll print it out in between. Whatever I'm printing, for sure she's going to want that money back.

Jason:

That's how.

Erick:

Hey, however, she gets it, you know, in payments for real but, uh I want to share the website here. So, uh, the printer that I got was the bamboo lab a1 printer.

Jason:

It's definitely not it's not that one I was about to say.

Erick:

That's like no, I don't know why they're even showing me that. Matter of fact, let's go to their 3D printers.

Jason:

It looks beautiful though, that P1S bro, yeah, the P1S is nice. That looks dope too, you know, sorry, it looks like a microscope, almost like almost, with the platform you know, just without the to yeah it's, it's pretty cool.

Erick:

I actually have it. You can't see this just off camera right here, which uh just to show you guys right, quick.

Jason:

I bet you're in love with that thing, eric, I bet you, you.

Erick:

You got a smile on your face there, it is right there off to the side didn't have to really move anything, I just cleared some stuff off that spot. All right, we're gonna have to break it in his house.

Jason:

Just cleared some stuff off that spot.

Erick:

All right, we're going to have to break into his house. Hey look, hey man, y'all can just send something over to the printer For real.

Jeff:

And then Venmo yells $20 to send it over.

Jason:

Look at this freaking UI on this website. Man, yeah, man, that's dope.

Erick:

So this is so. It's another rabbit hole. Damn it, eric Now. So it's another rabbit hole.

Jason:

Damn it, Eric. Now I'm going to have to buy one.

Erick:

Look just the printer itself. And the thing that you'll appreciate, Jason, is they've thought of almost everything right as a way to make it user-friendly. They call it the Apple of printers, of 3D printers, and it's like that for a reason. It is so simple, it's so. Everything is so well thought out. Um, and just kind of using this ui trying to scroll down to see if they had some other that is a apple-ish ui too, by the way, kind of like their website but this is just clean, huh it's, it's clean, and this is really just a good way for me to kind of show off what all is going on here.

Erick:

So the printer head is here and this guy over here, this is a. There's a camera in here. There's a light that you can turn on, a camera that records time lapses, everything you're printing. Uh, damn, so you can monitor your, your prints you can monitor your prints. Wow, dude, you can either print from the screen. I've touched the screen like maybe once. I've been printing pretty much non-stop since friday bamboo.

Jason:

Can we get a collab bro? Can we? You know I'm saying can we look it's, it's dope.

Erick:

So when I say they've thought of everything, so they've thought of everything in the sense of, yeah, this printer, whenever it you know you need to change colors or anything like that, this little guy over here to the left is where it kind of like, gets rid of the excess filament, and if you don't have anything over here, it's just open space. So the first time it does is flicking chunks of just melted filament out to the side. You're like man, that sucks, wow, you know. But if you go here, they actually have something for you to print that attaches onto the side to catch the filament. No way, even this, uh, so this so you're like recycling basically it's, it's, it's so.

Erick:

It makes so much sense, right, you don't have to buy it you're buying a 3d printer, bro it's I'm telling you, man you have the same smile on your face

Jeff:

you have the same smile on your face, bro.

Erick:

So even off to the right here. So this is called ams.

Erick:

Uh, for you ams stand for, but essentially by default you come with just the ability to print from one second feeder, right like a feeder yeah, and this actually lets you print from four different colors and, if I'm not mistaken, you can actually connect two of these up, so you can have a total of eight. But maybe you don't have the footprint right. You don't have the space to have this off to the side, wherever you want to put it. They actually have something. Oh, that's fine, there's something for you to 3d print that lets you sit this on top of the printer on the rail.

Erick:

Wow, that's free attachment yeah, it's, it's like it makes so much sense once you start 3d printing stuff like oh, I'll just print that, even when it comes down to like the type of materials, because there are so many like, so I'm going to show. Um, I'll show that in a second. I want to show a couple of other things. As far as websites go, this is the website. If you want to buy it, we'll look at the prices.

Jason:

I got to ask you about price, man.

Erick:

This printer with the AMS right now is on sale for $509. I'll let you know the AMS by itself is $250. So that is a heck of a deal. The printer by itself is $400. So right now, this $509 price for both of them is pretty solid.

Jason:

Yeah, it's pretty good man, because you know you want the option to to mix in colors. And yeah, you don't want to, you don't want to straight, you don't want to limit yourself, so I get it yep, but uh, once again, you also have the option to add that on later.

Erick:

Like you can buy the ams. Like I said, it comes by default with one spool holder and they even have something where you can use the default spool holder. They don't even show it here, but it's just something that clips on top, like what I have on mine. They have where you can just 3D print another arm for it and just stick a second roll on there and use that. You don't even have to buy the AMS out the gate is is such a like you're, it's, it's, I'm. I'm at a loss for words just because the concept has existed, but I'm just now discovering it and the idea that, oh, you just make whatever you need and you're buying something to make what you need, so it's designed for you to make what you need. Like it's. It seems simple once simple once you start using it, but they've literally thought of everything.

Jeff:

Eric, it's cool that they didn't try to nickel and dime you to buy the mount to put it on top.

Erick:

They're like oh no, just press this button, you can print your own yep and it comes with filament right for you to even do that too so, depending on which one you buy, um, I don't know about the ams if it comes with filament, but with mine it came with like a little bit of filament. But it also came with a a boat to print. So you're thinking about like, oh, you're going to print the boat, but what did it come with? So it actually comes with like a little motor that you put on the back of the boat once you're done printing it, and the box that it comes in has a QR code and you just scan the QR code and it pulls up the app.

Jason:

Oh, my God Eric.

Erick:

And and you go into the app and you pick all your parameters I, parameters I need to mute this man, I'm gonna.

Jason:

Hey, man, look, go ahead if you're gonna. Is this payback, bro, for all the money I made you spend? Is that?

Erick:

what that is. Oh, I've only, I've only begun. So, as our listeners know, they hear us talking about why you should not go to etsy, so I'm just gonna, you know, pop up etsy here, right quick oh, this is one of the reasons why we don't go to Etsy. You go to Etsy, you put in sim racing and it's all kind of stuff. You want to build a Macho Wheel. You want to build an enclosure for a Race Logic. You want to build your own flag.

Jason:

Look at that phone dude. Look at that racing seat phone holder.

Erick:

Look at that. You want to make this racing seat seat. You can literally just print that on the laying it on thick, all of this yes, he is. You want to print it this, even this thing she's holding. You're like, oh, that's entirely too big. It'll print it sections for you to be able to connect up together and just have one big, one big piece. I mean it's. The options are limitless and etsy is where people have been just taking advantage of this is like propaganda bro I'm getting infected right now.

Erick:

Oh yeah, look, and it's not gonna be curable man it's just continues.

Jason:

It's like all right man, all that is 3d printing.

Erick:

You're right oh, so the and the thing that I've learned about 3d printing is in my mind. Initially it was oh, you hit, print and a finished thing comes out and that's that's. The reality is that's not always the case, depending on what you're printing, right, some of the stuff you need to finish, right, you might need to stand it a little bit, but the fact that you can choose what type of material you want. If I want to print a uh, a vinyl label, I can use a 3d printer, as long as I'm using the correct filament. You can print it in tpu and like put that vinyl label on whatever you want to want to put it on. Like. The options are are limitless, but the I guess now we'll have like a little bit of show and tell, just some of the stuff that I've been printing.

Erick:

So I want to just kind of speak into all the filament options.

Jason:

They should hire this guy Freaking salesman right here.

Erick:

Hey, I'm available. So, if you're curious, you know well, how many different filaments do they really have? So they give you in the box they give you this some. How many different filaments do they really have? So they give you in the box they give you this some little filament samples, and so this is not how they came. This actually is something that you just hit in 3D print. It prints in like 40 minutes to put the samples in, but I have to print three more of these.

Jason:

My wallet is screaming right now.

Erick:

Why do you got?

Jason:

to print more of these. My wallet is screaming.

Erick:

Right now I have to print three more of these, because it's not just those samples, there are so many. It's like all these different samples of the different filaments you can have, and it's ABS, it's smooth, it's matte, it's shiny, it's fluorescent. Whatever you want to print, however you want to print it, you can pick a color, pick a filament type, depending on.

Jeff:

What's the damage on a?

Erick:

roll of filament. So right now, a base roll of filament like what I have, uh, if you don't have the spool is 20 bucks 20 to 24 bucks depending on where you get it from. If you have a spool, you you can get a refill for $14 to $19. The reason why I say that is if you buy just one, it'll be $19. If you buy at least four from Bamboo, it'll end up being $14 per. And, once again, if you don't have a spool, instead of spending $20 to $24, you literally can just print a spool to put the refill on, of course. So now you only have to buy the refills, like it's. It's it's self-licking ice cream cone, exactly, man, it's such a crazy concept. It's like, hey, you don't have to buy this stuff from you. Like, just buy the filament and print it. Whatever it is, as long as you got filament, you can print it. So something else, um, just thinking about rig stuff. So I have, uh, I think like Jason used to have as well.

Erick:

I have the steel series Nova pro wireless, which has this nice little deck here, and if you want to attach it to your SIM rig, you have to. You know, some people do use double-sided tape and things like that, but I don't know. Um, I went on and somebody actually had a file for a mount and it actually has Arctic Nova Pro in the back.

Erick:

Let's go you just pop it in. And now this will attach to my rig. It has a spot for the battery Clearance in the back for all the ports, screw it down and it's solid. I can mount it from the top, mount it on the side, however you want to put it in there.

Jason:

This printed in probably an hour and a half you could be at work and just send it to print. Come home and it's ready.

Erick:

I found this and sent it to the printer while we were eating dinner. Eating dinner, I'm like, oh, you got to go to the bathroom, okay, yeah.

Jason:

Yeah, come home Click.

Erick:

Off the printer. Yeah, just come home, just pull it off the printer. And so early, when I mentioned being able to print things that are bigger than essentially what your printer can do in one shot, uh, you can piece things together. So this right here is something that one of my homies print yo, this is like a two-piece deal, and it even has this it looks high quality you can't see any of the lines or nothing, and and we mentioned the colors what the hell is that.

Erick:

So this is a little base and I wish I could Base. It's like a rock. Oh, oh, oh, oh. So I just have this sitting underneath my TV, for the Colts Get a little rowdy.

Jason:

Which, if you were to buy something like that Colts with the Colts name on it, hundreds of dollars.

Erick:

Yeah, bro, this would be a hundred bucks easily. But the handle is one print and the mallet is another print, and then you print the colored pieces and glue them on individually. But I mean, this is just something I printed, another one I'm making one for my homie. He likes the bears I printed one, Rob Markman.

Jason:

So you're printing weapons now, Rob Markman? That escalated quickly, Rob Markman.

Jeff:

So you're printing weapons now? Rob Markman, that escalated quickly.

Erick:

Rob Markman yeah, but I mean just the options are-. Rob Markman, I'm going to hit you over the head with my freaking printed hammer.

Jason:

Hold on, give me like three hours.

Erick:

Rob Markman. Oh yeah, rob Markman. Exactly Rob Markman. How long did that?

Jason:

take.

Erick:

Rob Markman Like, count your time. All right, it's coming, because you're about. The last thing I want to show you guys is the app, so try to do this best I can how much time for the hammer? So the hammer is total probably about eight and a half hours.

Erick:

No, okay, so the machine took it like a champ no overheating, no nothing when I said I've been printing non-stop, I literally I printed the mallet, the mallet head, the handle started printing and the girls I told them we'd have a movie night up here. So I hit pause, it paused the printing. We watched the movie for two and a half hours. I hit unpause and it kept printing the handle oh.

Jason:

The second one's ready to go, and so it was like you give this to Jeff man Dude, He'll have crates of shit.

Jeff:

Dude, I have stuff for the rig for fishing, for the boat Boat, for mountain biking.

Erick:

So this is just the beginning, right?

Jason:

Your go-karts too, you can fit stuff.

Erick:

Oh, yeah, yeah, so-.

Jason:

Like fog lights for him.

Erick:

Yeah, so so this is the app. So this is actually like a camera feed from the printer. You're actually watching it. That's cool. Yeah, so it's showing me what it just printed. It says it's 100% done and I can go into the printer and it gives me different options. I can cut the little light on and off.

Jason:

All right, I'm sold man. I've been sold five minutes ago. The little light on and off, all right, I'm sold man.

Erick:

I've been sold five minutes ago, but then also I have let me see.

Jason:

I see, I see Eric flexing with the, with the fold. I see you.

Erick:

Oh yeah, man, you got to be able to demonstrate, man. So when I mentioned the, you know he's been able to get stuff like. So this is a mic stand that you can just print out Right.

Jason:

Oh, a mic stand that you can just print out, right. Oh, that's from the.

Erick:

From like the app like a marketplace and it's free, right? Yep, so everything on here is free and it's called maker world, so it's in the app as well. So anything in here, like they got a little cage, like they got some, everything like you pull it up night.

Erick:

Yeah, you hit the item and you can go into it. And when you go into print, it knows what filament you have. You select which printer you have, it tells you how long it'll take if anybody has remixed it. So maybe somebody put up a file and somebody printed it out and they're like, oh, this file will be better if I tweak this a little bit.

Erick:

This is actually a V2 of this, so the original one, the deck just kind of sat in there pretty loose, and so somebody was like, hey, I'm going to adjust it just a little bit so the deck fits a little more snug. So when you go and you select what you're going to print, you can just swipe over to the V2 of it and it literally says like a little note, this one, you know, holds a little more snugly that one, and so, like I said, this is all stuff that everybody else is providing you. But you have a studio app that you can install and you can take these designs, you can tweak them yourself. There's an app you can download on your phone. You can scan something like when I tell you this is a hobby all on its own, obviously I'm, you know, I got into it for all right, jeff, we're gonna have to talk about shipping, when, whenever you decide to order one, and we'll, we'll split the shipping cost you know.

Jeff:

It just seems like it coming from. I mean, I know what a 3d printer is, but like past that basics of it, it seems like coming from. I mean, I know what a 3D printer is but like past that basics of it. It seems like that company, bamboo, kind of takes a lot of the back-end knowledge, if you will, or requirements to know how to do this stuff. They just kind of it seems like it has a pretty good GUI interface that takes a lot of that like beeps and squeaks out of figuring it out.

Erick:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was, that was really like simplicity homie, yeah, my homie, he has, uh, the p1s. And so in my mind I'm like, oh you, you spent a thousand dollars for yours. Of course yours is easy. But when you look at the technology, like, like the print quality, the features and JCL loved this, so you can select different modes for it to print in. You can have standard, which I have, you can have fast, you can have quiet, and it has a ludicrous mode.

Erick:

So, you can print ludicrous, so to print as fast as possible, ludicrous speed.

Erick:

Yeah, but obviously that'll be louder and probably a lot more vibrations and all that stuff. Like when you, when you set it up, you start, you really appreciate the thought that's been put into it and just what it can do, because the stand I have it on is not stable at all. Like I put feet on it because it's on carpet. It rocks a lot really and when you calibrate it it literally like tests all the parameters, like it shakes as hard as it can, it vibrates as loud as it can, it goes through the full spectrum from violent shaking to really fine shaking To make sure yeah.

Erick:

Once it's done, it's like okay, I understand it now I know exactly what I can do. And when it's printing like I was nervous, like when it's printing like I was nervous, like when it's printing like the whole little thing is like rocking back and forth and it's going fast and slow and it's wiping off the nozzle and coming back and going slow and like for this handle, this is on the bed and it's in the printers, is like going like back and forth and the whole thing is shaking, but it's still lining everything up perfectly. Ah, that's crazy. Yeah, and this is like 350 bucks and I don't have to use any tools on it.

Erick:

I don't have to tweak it, you know you go into these apps and you hit a button and it asks. It literally says do you have a bamboo printer, yes or no? You're like, yes, okay, which printer do you have? Which filament? Okay, I got you. Send it to the printer If you don't have a bamboo printer. It's like wait, here's a file. Good luck, yeah, whatever you got. Wow.

Jason:

Good luck. Wow, that's amazing, that's amazing.

Erick:

I don't think I've ever seen you this happy, seriously. Rob Markman. I've just gotten, because I'm just realizing what it's like a new world. I'm just realizing what all I can do Because I haven't even designed anything yet. I haven't. I go through a lot of phones and.

Erick:

I'm always in a place where I'm like it'd be nice if I had a phone cradle for this or that. And now it's like I can literally take a calorimeter and measure my phone down to the millimeter, put it into the designer and design me the perfect cradle at the right angle. Wow, all this stuff.

Jeff:

Boy, that rabbit hole goes way back there. It's deep.

Jason:

Yeah, but that's man. That's so awesome though.

Jeff:

Oh, it is super cool.

Jason:

Don't get me wrong Super cool.

Erick:

It's deep, but it's not pricey, though. It's really like how much time do you want to invest in learning how to 3D model or search for just the right file, print something and kind of adjust it how you want? It's different and it's to me it's kind of a worse rabbit hole, because a lot of this stuff is essentially free. Of course, you got to pay for the filament, but just to try it out, like you go online, hit a button and it appears hours later in real life, at your house, in real shipping, like it could be snowing outside. No, no.

Jason:

That's a great point yeah.

Erick:

I need something here.

Jeff:

The man says like it appears like a teleported over I said it before, we can have a COVID part two.

Jason:

We're going to be ready this time.

Erick:

I'm going to order a crap load of filament. I want to order a crap load of filament. I'll see y'all on the other side. That's it, bro man, that's, yeah, that. That's that's my discussion. If y'all got any questions anybody has any questions definitely drop them in the chat, because I, I'm a, I'm a believer. Now, okay, like I say, it's not a hundred percent. Some stuff you have to, you know, do some finishing work on, but to get a full, ready to go product in your house, you can't beat it.

Jason:

I'm already thinking about how I'm gonna get this thing over here, so yeah, oh, that's smart potatoes man, I think honestly, I think it's a great overview and you made a great point is the shipping. You know, every time I order something off Etsy, minimum is $10, $12. That's the cost of a refill and many items. I know those little plastic thingies that hold the wires together inside the 8020.

Jeff:

Oh, my goodness bro Jeff can tell you how many of those he ordered, so I'll tell you. Paid for somebody's 3D printer. There you go.

Erick:

I've been printing stuff since Friday, since I got it you kept this a secret, bro.

Jason:

We didn't know anything about this. I tried my best.

Erick:

You saw I was radio silent. I wasn't really saying much.

Jason:

I'm not kidding guys, we didn't know about this. No much, I'm not kidding guys.

Erick:

We didn't know about this at all. I was trying my best not to send a picture of anything that I printed of the printer.

Jason:

Oh, jeff, get your phone ready, because the news is out Now. We're going to get all kinds of content on that chat.

Erick:

Yeah it's coming While it's printing.

Jason:

I think that's great, I think that's awesome and we have we have somebody on the chicane podcast, a co-host, eric Kelly, that has a 3d printer. So if you have any questions about them, you know pretty recently purchased, it's a good resource, I mean and I might have to get one. I might have to get one. I know.

Erick:

Yeah, man, yeah, and if I don't know the answer I'll definitely ask, try to figure it out myself. Might be something I'm already trying to figure out. So definitely drop them in the comment section.

Jason:

I just think it's awesome, like having something. It's like having something that can be teleported or beamed to you while you're away, something that can be teleported or beamed to you while you're away, instead of waiting on the mail and then the package comes. It may come damaged, it may not come at all if you have those kind of people around at snag packages. Or, instead of paying for shipping, I'd rather invest my money in in the filament and just have a crap ton of filament and print whatever man. That's dangerous, bro, because the more you have, the more you print. Huh, it's kind of interesting.

Erick:

I mean you find, you find stuff, even like stuff for you, like around the house, like I said, the, the, the options are endless because there's you. You just start like none of that, I have it. I start thinking about stuff that I can print something for, because you don't even your mind isn't even in that mode of solving problems like that. Like you might look at your desk and be like, oh, I got crap in my desk, let me put it in the drawer. Like, oh, I could literally design and print and organize specifically for the stuff that I have to organize, you know, and put the right measurements in there. It just depends on how much effort you want to put into it. But I'm trying to customize everything now, that's what's up, man?

Jeff:

Repeat after me. They gave it to me.

Jason:

That's right. There you go, that's right.

Erick:

I'm just going to let that's the other slogan, man.

Jason:

I'll put a blanket over it or something I don't know, yeah, yeah. So I can't even concentrate on the show right now. I'm thinking where is it going to go? I'm looking over here. There's this little space right there you know I might have to take some measurements or something.

Jason:

But thank you, eric, that was awesome. You become our new 3D expert. Anything you print out, that's crazy, crazy man. Just show it here on the show. Mean it, showcase it. Anything, anything sim racing related. I mean, the deck holder is awesome. You know it's it. It cleans up the setup and you guys gotta think, yes, you can double side, uh, you can sticky stuff together, right, but if you ever have to move this thing, something to consider, you know what I mean, because now you can break it or you can leave a nasty stain or something, but something clean, that screws on, that can be unbolted, is always going to be the better option, my opinion.

Erick:

So so this would be controversial. For sure you can 3D print 80-20.

Jason:

You can 3D print 80-20. You can 3D print the corner brackets.

Erick:

You can 3D print the end caps If you need, like a mouse holder. You want an arm to hold a button box. That's not a lot of weight.

Jason:

Okay, okay, I'm thinking the rig as a structure. I'm like, dude, I'm going to fall through this ABS. Yeah, not a whole rig, for sure, the butt kicker alone is going to destroy it, but I have an arm that just is For a button box or a phone holder display light duty, whatever light duty, yeah, yeah something light.

Erick:

You know, just print one okay.

Jason:

Yeah, man, I'm ready to move on from this topic. It's amazing, but but the man you're pulling the same type of tactics I do You've learned a lot from me is what it is.

Erick:

I appreciate it, you've been studying.

Jason:

He cannot get the smile off the face, man, I swear that's what's up, though I'm just thinking about more stuff to print Yo the 3D printer.

Jeff:

This episode is the greatest thing that happened to that printer so far. Because it's like finally, it's like oh, I get to take a break for a little bit I see.

Erick:

Oh yeah, it's the only time it's taking a break, besides that movie. Yeah, I pulled this off before we started shooting oh wow, hot off the press literally. I already got something that I'm gonna print up.

Jason:

Next, already at the core of the queue well, we have another banger of an episode, it sounds like, because this right here is a highlight, in my opinion. I mean, we still got some more stuff to cover, so let's move on, because I my mind is straight on 3d printer and I need one and I need to finish this episode so I can do some research. But over to jeff, jeff, what you got for us, man, alright my man, hey.

Jeff:

So I had a friend and family come over I think I talked about it last episode and he asked me a question and I thought it was pretty interesting. You know, we walked around the sim for I don't know an hour, hour and a half, just he was asking a bunch of questions, but I showed him all the different types of sims and games that there are and he's like eventually he was like, hey, man, if you had to, if you had to pick one sim for the rest of your life, you got to play what would it be? And I was like I racing. And then I started to think I was like, hmm, would it be? So while you guys are thinking about your answer, I'm gonna go with mine and it might be controversial, or maybe not your standard issue.

Jason:

I'm telling you it's F1, bro, because I'm going to walk out. I'm going to straight walk out.

Jeff:

It's not that controversial, let's be honest. Ams 2.

Jason:

I have to agree with him, eric oh really Wow, but I want to listen to why I was going to peg you a different one, but I'll go.

Jeff:

why I said it. First is the vast number of cars that it has, from new cars to the current model cars, for the most part Go-karts to F1. It just updated. The go-karts too was classic v-lan classic cars to you know, gt3s, the whole gamut. Then they have like a huge list of tracks that you can race and then you can grab. You know, each one of those tracks, like you know some of to iRacing, gives you the ability to race different years. That it was you know, etc.

Jeff:

Um vr compatible um one of the best vr titles on pc yeah, um, there are is a not nearly the modding community, that uh set of courses, but a pretty decent, um modern community. Like I got the, uh, the new skins for the F1 cars, um, and you can ingest those in and have the F. The F1 cars have the current skins and you can download the tracks et cetera for the F1 track that don't come with AMS too, um, I, and now that it's low fuel, motorsports has AMS in it, so it just kind of adds to the kind of just the robustness. The only thing that it's really missing their online community is there. I mean, let's not be honest, it can't hold a candle to the iRacing and stuff. But there is some.

Jason:

But you got low fuel for that, yeah, and that's probably where it's getting.

Jeff:

It's going to get bigger. But uh, I started I was like man, it's a pretty well-rounded sim. I mean the graphics are. I think the graphics are really are good, um, the handling's good, it's. It's just a pretty well-rounded um sim. So I've talked to a bunch we could have, you know, uh, eric or Jason, you guys want to tell me if you could only only load up one game, one sim, what would it be?

Erick:

So question.

Jason:

Yeah, eric, you want to go first Cause I kind of agree I that's a hard one man. Cause when you mentioned content manager, you just reminded me.

Jeff:

That's what I was going to tell. I'm like I had you as AC content manager for sure.

Jason:

Now I will say this before you go, eric, and this will be very easy, very easy. I say both of them and I'm going to pick both because I'm the host. I'm just kidding. But I say both because AMS is a package. You have all the content there, see Content Manager. It needs that content to be downloaded in. So, depending on your library size, if we go through the apocalypse tomorrow and the server shut down, ams will work, but Content Manager I'm stuck. I don't know.

Jeff:

I don't know. I don't know. There's always something, whenever I get into one of those Discord servers. There's always something that I'm missing.

Jason:

Back your games up.

Jeff:

I got to download something.

Jason:

Back your games up For real Back up your content, just in case but like for example, if this PC died and my backup got destroyed and I was to download content manager and compare that against AMS2, AMS2 will win because it's content, that's in it's. It's in the game already. It's included. Yes, that's my take.

Erick:

Yeah, I agree. Um, and it's funny you say that because I took a couple of laps in the AMS2, specifically in the go-kart, so I took a couple laps in the MS2 specifically in the go-kart, so I did Mount Panorama in a go-kart. It's kind of crazy that's crap it took forever. It took forever that last straight you were falling asleep. I literally drifted off, hit the grass.

Jeff:

Oh no.

Erick:

Grass and carts don't mix, so I crashed out. But yeah, I was kind of pleasantly surprised by how polished AMS2 was. I've never done any online or league racing with AMS2. I think that'll be cool. But you mentioned in that it's hard for me not to say um, not to say a set of course. So with content manager, just because for me, um, I like the gt3 cars but also like kind of like having more of an open world option, cruising as well, not just track racing. That's why, for me, I race and wouldn't really be in the in the running, because they don't have that and it's a service yeah, it's a service as well you cut the cord.

Erick:

It doesn't work no more yeah, it's a service as well. You cut the cord, it doesn't work, no more. Yeah, yeah, um, and funny, funny enough. When you first said it I was like man, like ask this question in a year and I think it'd be hard, not to say a set of course of evil. Oh, that's because it's going to have the package on. It are great. The visuals are great. Um, there's online components, but you know, we started playing it offline and you could do ai races on the tracks. Fine, there was no you know um kind of requirement to be connected to the network just to run the game, which is kind of becoming more and more rare these days. But, but right now I'd have to take AC with Content Manager. Obviously, if something happens to the servers I'd be screwed, but where everything is working, Well, I mean, just make sure you have the content.

Jeff:

Right, and all the plugins and all your what is it pure, and there's tons of them.

Jason:

Right, the physics and the picture and all of the things, the beauty of-, the beauty of-.

Jason:

Right and I was going to say I mean, you're right, eric, but the beauty of Content Manager with AC is that AC is a dead game. It's not getting updates. So you know how I made that truck, the American Truck Simulator video, right? Yeah, you know, I left a small caveat on. It is a PITA, a PA, to keep that game up to date with the mods. So anytime that ATS has an update and you want to update it because their updates are great they keep adding stuff that want you to upgrade, or fixes or whatever. Next thing, you know your mods half of them don't work, so you have to wait.

Jeff:

That's such a pain.

Jason:

Yes, so you got to go through each individual. A pain. Yes, so for you gotta. You gotta go through each individual developer oh and get it up to date.

Jason:

So that's how come sometimes it could be. It could be a pain when you mess with mods, but a content manager doesn't matter. You can have the version of pure that was two or three versions ago. It doesn't matter, because the game engine or, you know, the game itself didn't receive an update. Content Manager receives updates. The plugin for Content Manager I forget it right now, but that receives updates, but it never makes it incompatible, it's only trying to make it better. So that's kind of why, that's kind of the differences right, with games that are live and games that are dead.

Jason:

So you know AC EVO got a long way to go. We got to see if that game will run offline, because all we know is an open, not an open, what you call this a closed alpha or an early access so far. But I know Steam. If you don't have internet with Steam, there's a thing you have to do to it to make your games work offline, and you can only do it days at a time.

Erick:

I forgot about that piece. Yes, because you can only do it days at a time. So I'm starting to think about. I forgot about that piece. Yes, because you got to use themes. It's kind of everywhere For the game.

Jason:

You know, yeah, it's kind of everywhere. It's like PlayStation or Xbox. If you're offline for a certain amount of time let's say I don't know how long and you try and delete that game and you're signed off, or I don't know, the console does run checks for licenses for modded stuff or pirated stuff, which is a world we live in, with piracy being a big problem. That's where that comes from. That's why those checks are in place, because of piracy.

Erick:

Yeah, for sure.

Jason:

That's part of it. So there's options on PC guys. There's websites that will sell you non-DRM games, right? So non-DRM games are games that you will own. You have the setup. It's a folder now. It used to be a CD back in the day and you can install it anytime you want and it's your game. But whenever you buy things from steam, even though it's free and you own it, you own the license to it. You don't technically own the. You know the product itself.

Jeff:

Just remember that okay, if I just go real quick, jason. One more thing to the listeners. Uh, post a comment if you got to pick one oh yeah, for sure yeah, and, more importantly, why. It's just interesting to pick what. What people would choose what they choose I think it's a great choice.

Jason:

Ams2 is a high contender. It's a great game, has great graphics, it runs on anything. Um, you know, even back when I had a 3080 days, I would see 100, 200 frames a second and it looks crisp. It's a great looking game, so that's a good one, I agree. I agree with both. I'm leaning more on a content manager side because I drift. I can't be without drift and that's the only sim drifter out there that's one-to-one realistic. That's got the physics that you know. There's no other sim that I use to drift on or open world explore, you know, like the Tokyo Highway, you know, is one of them. Example All right, gents, great question. Actually, that one took me by surprise. That's a great question, jeff. Good topic this week. But it's that time and it's that time for track of the week, and today I have selected the track that I did terrible on just a few weeks ago. So let me go ahead and share my screen Once again. I'm on the podium and we are talking about Sebring.

Jeff:

Oh.

Jason:

Yes.

Jeff:

That's a tough track, man.

Jason:

Sebring. Let me get this nice and in shot here. Hopefully we can see that it is a tough track. It is a tough track, but we're going to go over the history of this track real quick. So Sebring you know it's always been famous for its 12-hour races. You know a lot of famous drivers have been on this track and one that you'll never guess, jeff and I'm speaking directly to you you'll never guess has the world record lap time on this thing. It was built on the runways and connecting roads of former us army air base, so that that straight away was part of an air base. Um, it's crazy. So let me get into the history here that's cool, I did.

Jeff:

I knew it was a runway. I didn't know it was a actual, I'm assuming former military base, but yeah yeah, so this again.

Jason:

Here we go with uh back in the world war stuff. It seems like thanks to world war, which we don't want, another one. Uh, we got racing somehow. This is kind of crazy.

Erick:

Or racing or tracks to race on um, seems to be a thing for sure.

Jason:

Right, it's like a trend. So the air base on which it stands was built at the height of World War II, when the city of Sebring donated land for a new air training school. In June 1941, construction crews moved in and began creating the runways and barracks with a network of buildings, roads, sewage, the whole thing Basically self-contained a small city they had there. Shortly before completion, the orders came through that the base was to be expanded to become the first combat crew training school in the United States for heavy bombers, requiring much more robust and large runways To withstand the pounding of a giant B-17 flying fortress bombers. Oh God, engineers poured multiple slabs of concrete to form the runways which crisscrossed the site in four directions. Named Hendricks Field in honor of a fallen flight instructor, the base spent the rest of the war training hundreds of pilots for B-17, b-24, and later B-29 Super Fortress flight crews. And then, at the end of the war, it soon became a surplus to requirements and after a short period of inactivity, the abandoned airfield was turned over to the city of Sebring to become Sebring Air Terminal, now Sebring Regional Airport and Commerce Park. So here's where the racing starts.

Jason:

It was in the geist that Sebring first came to the attention of the racing community. One day in 1949, just nine years later, a sports car racer called Sam Collier and Bob Gaggin, if I'm saying it correctly, were flying overhead. When they spotted the airfield below and decided to take a look. On landing, they asked to see the person in charge and asked if it would be possible to hold a race on the grounds. Alan Altvalder, who ran the air terminal, said it would be a matter of city council to decide, but took them on a tour of the facility. So you know, they saw it from the air. Evidently impressed by what they had seen, the pair departed to begin preparations, leaving the gentleman to talk to the council members to sound them out. Basically, at the Watkins Glen Road Race, which is another awesome track, we should do that one soon.

Jason:

In 1950, uh, collier and gegan evidently shared the idea with other racers. Uh, to sound them out. Uh, tragically, collier was killed at the very, at the very race, and it seemed that the idea might have been died with him. Enter fellow racer Ullman, who had been inspired by a trip to Le Mans and harbored ambitious to bring European-style racing to the United States of America, the former president of the Dowdy Equipment Corporation which manufactured landing gears for military aircraft. He was also keen on starting a new business, refitting war surplus aircraft for civilian uses. So here, dude, there's a lot to this man. In the book the Sebring Story, ullman writes that what he found seemed ideal for his vision. Oman writes that what he found seemed ideal for his vision two glorious one-mile straightaways, so necessary for top-speed competition, and other roads that could simulate Le Mans. So he was trying to bring Le Mans to America. Basically, I can see that yeah.

Jason:

Yeah, so right-angle turns, turns as Mon Lane, and if we look at, let me see if, yeah, you see there's a curve here called Le Mans curve.

Jeff:

Yeah, I did see that.

Jason:

Yeah, it's crazy. I would have never guessed why it was called that.

Erick:

Yeah, and then it was straight, sir, you going to be rolling.

Jason:

Yeah. So in the early years it it says here, held on new year's Eve 1950, around 30 cars from across the country turned out to the contest. Sam Collier, six hour memorial run to a complicated uh equivalence formula which ensured that the handful of local spectators have no clue who was winning. Rather, it was won by the team of Ralph Deshan and Fritz Koster, who had borrowed a spectator's tiny and otherwise unsporting Crossley hotshot to participate in the event. So yeah, man, just skipping, skipping, there's so much history here. In 1959 oldman pulled off something, a uh coupe, organizing first us grand prix for formula one machinery. 1959 jeff formula one, okay, in the, in the bumpy concrete, which I can concur proved a poor match for the sophisticated single-seaters, and the event failed.

Jeff:

It would be a great F1. I mean, looking at it, the picture, and then looking back on driving it, it would be a good track. It's got long straights and good turns, slower turns.

Jason:

Yeah, so it failed on the track. It didn't do well. So in 1966, the 12 Hours was self-established. It became another battleground between Ford and Ferrari in preparation for Le Mans. That year's race was to prove Sebring's grimmest hour, however, thanks to a string of fatalities which exposed basically the safety again. So it seems like a trend, right, every time we do track of the week, it seems like the track's view is for it to be super fast without accounting for safety, and then people start dying and then they start making changes. So yeah, uh. The first one was uh, canadian bob mclean was killed when his ford gt40 suffered mechanical trouble sending it in, uh carrying into a tele damn, a telegraph pole, uh telegram pole doing in the near-run racetrack crazy, I know so.

Jason:

The car bursted into flames with the mclaren trapped inside the yeah man that sucks yeah, further, further tragedy. Tragedy was to strike with two hours to go when mario andretti's ferrari slowed with gearbox trouble, only to be clipped by don uh wester's porsche, sending wester first into a group of spectators who were stood in a they stood in a restricted zone and then into the side of a warehouse. Four spectators, including a nine-year-old boy, were killed and Wester suffered multiple injuries.

Jeff:

That's terrible.

Erick:

I'm glad they got that under control, man.

Jeff:

That's the type of stuff that closes, tracks down.

Jason:

I mean so back then, you know 1959, I mean, was that 59 or 66? Yeah, 66. I mean the rules were kind of light. You know, even F1 drivers were dying at least every year. You know it was common back then.

Erick:

Yeah, and it was the beginnings, you know, of kind of motorsport essentially too.

Jason:

So there were a lot of sadly, a lot of lessons to be learned. To be learned. So I mean there's a bunch of lawsuits I'm reading here and the the track owner, pete mac, uh, mac mahan, mac mahan, if I'm saying this wrong, sorry. He was willing to invest 1.5 million in track upgrades. That would include extending its length from two miles to 5.5 miles. In addition, 80 covered pits would be built for the entrance, plus bleachers for the spectators so that they wouldn't be in the damn restricted zone that you know, what a novel idea.

Erick:

I know how about that?

Jason:

So you know, Mother Nature had other ideas, however. The Palm Beach area suffered through two months of unprecedented rains, delaying the start of any construction work. So finally, in November, you know, the officials announced that it would be abandoning of the 10 year contract to hold the race because the rain and high water table prevented them from getting the track ready in time. So, almost, almost done here, resurrection. So you know, concessions to safety were made, including the moving of the warehouse straight onto a parallel road to keep the cars further away from the building. Let's move over to 66 here. Uh, before I continue, so you can, guys, get that on this on display, geez look at the change, drastic changes, yeah, man like make the track with a ruler they added 5.5 miles.

Jason:

Dude, look at this.

Erick:

Yes, a long, risking your life. After every turn, you were wide open forever.

Jason:

Wide open throttle, wide open throttle.

Jeff:

Breaks and wide open.

Jason:

Yeah, so they eliminated the old Western Corner and replaced it with the Green Park Chicane. Where is this Green Park Chicane? I see Green Park Boulevard, so I'm guessing that's what they mean. What year is this? 1966, still.

Erick:

Unless they added it in 67 or something, I don't know.

Jason:

It says, while nylon belting was designed to catch Navy planes that might overshot a carrier landing on a short runway was installed along the new warehouse straight the tracks. Insurance insurers also insisted spectators be kept at least 120 feet from the track rather than the previous 75 feet, while chain link fencing and armco barriers were also so a crap ton of safety features. So we're going to skip ahead to 1983. As you can see, it's definitely changed here. There goes that warehouse, there goes that chicane. It's just called chicane now according to this website. This is called chicane now according to this website. See, when the first of several course changes marked a push to reduce the circuit's impact on the operations of the airport, which we're seeing increasing flight traffic. This would ultimately see the portions using the north and south runway reduced and finally eliminated. Dang yeah dude.

Jeff:

They're still using the north and south runway, reduced and finally, eliminated.

Erick:

Dang yeah, dude, they were still using the runway.

Jason:

Yeah, they were still flying planes. That's crazy. This is an airport dude. In tandem came a general upgrade of paddock facilities, which saw the relocation of a backstretch in 1984. Let's go to 84.

Erick:

Okay, they moved it down a little bit, I see.

Jason:

I see, right here, this bend, right here.

Erick:

Yeah, they dropped it, softened it up a little bit and I guess dropped it down a little bit.

Jason:

They smoothed it out. The edges on there, yeah, it was sharp, yeah. So I kind of lost my position here. This would ultimately see the position. Okay, I read that. And then bigger changes came in 87, just to summarize guys when new sections were built for turn one and turn three, eliminating much of the concrete apron, and the track was rerouted away from North-South runway altogether, which a new stretch of permanent road which rejoined onto Almond Street. So let's go to 87. Wow, dude, what Dang. Yeah, look at the changes on this.

Jeff:

Wow, it's almost a mile shorter.

Erick:

Yeah, that's a whole different track.

Jason:

It looks like a bent spoon. I don't know. I see it. I got you you got that.

Erick:

Yeah, a little Matrix vibes.

Jason:

Yeah, a little bit, huh A little bit. So the track underwent ownership changes in 1990. Changes in 1990. Firstly, it was acquired by Scandia Racing boss, andy Evans, who sold it to Don Panaz in 97. So let's go to the 90s. We're in the 90s, let's go to 97. Still changing, still your spoon man, still a little spoon, yeah, under Panza's stewardship-.

Jason:

It's getting smaller and smaller yeah, they were further they've been shorter investment which has seen the construction of the chateau, chateau, whatever ellen hotel, overlooking the hairpin. Okay, in september 2012, let's go to 2012 should be this layout they just added. These are just different layouts for different events. The Panaz Motorsport Group was sold to NASCAR, which thus became the new owner of Sebring Raceway. The famous 12-hour continues part of the NASCAR-sanctioned United Sports Car Championship. Part of NASCAR-sanctioned United Sports Car Championship, while the track also holds the Legends of Motorsport and Historic Sports Car Racing Series and is the winner home of the Skip Barber Racing School. Many teams also continue to use Sebring for winter testing due to the harm climate. So there's a little bit of more information that's left for me to cover, but I will not read that. I will show you and this one is the one that's going to shock Jeff Hope he's ready. Send it. So here we have a full lap around, or I should say a qualifying, a record time for Mr Fernando Alonso.

Jeff:

Might have heard of him once or twice.

Jason:

That broke the record in 2019 and is still that record holder. Let's watch him.

Jeff:

Is he in a prototype? Yeah, damn, look, he is carrying the mail. It's at night too, man Jeez, he's going to work. He's driving that thing like he's angry at it, bro. You know, this is another reason why it's hard to not like Alonzo. The dude's just a gearhead, just loves to drive anything. He's driving the shit out of this thing right now. I'm telling you, man.

Jason:

This guy is wide open Like the whole time.

Jeff:

Oh, almost lost it. Why are they qualifying at night?

Erick:

There's like no lights on the track.

Jason:

Oh, they do have a little bit Ooh good, turning that turns hard man.

Jeff:

There's no curb or nothing to tell you where you're going. You can barely see.

Erick:

Wow oh yeah, jason, I remember you going around that thing.

Jeff:

Dude, that's a hell of a video.

Jason:

So the man laps, the man clocks in Six kilometers in a minute 40.124. Let that sink in, he is flying. Yeah four, let that sink in, he is flying. Yeah, bro, that's my dude. Alonzo man, that's your boy, that's my boy, alonzo. So that's about it for track of the week. That's Sebring for you. It's kind of interesting. It's had its ups and downs, you know for sure.

Erick:

But we're seeing a trend here of World War Two being the biggest influence so far, you know thus far, not just in Europe but in the United States. I mean, it's some of these facilities that they use for war. Once the war is over, it's kind of like, hey, we laid all these, you know all this infrastructure down here. We might as well drive fast on it.

Jason:

You know well, we got a plenty of that in hawaii man, but we ain't doing nothing.

Erick:

Hey, that's an opportunity right there man, it's tough because there's not.

Jeff:

They're not making new tracks like that one that those days are gone, right. Let's tough because there's not. They're not making new tracks like that one that those days are gone, right. Let's be honest, let's call a spade a spade, right? Nobody wants a track, everybody wants tracks. Nobody wants one in their backyard. Yeah, so if it's around, we got to keep it open because yep well, let's look at the cost of how much that would cost.

Jason:

Nowadays, the way things are going, I don't even want to.

Jeff:

Insane amount of money I couldn't even give an educated guess.

Jason:

That's probably why we're not seeing it, because there's no guarantee that they're going to do well and it's a lot of money for you to put forward. That's a hope and dream. That's a hope and dream.

Jeff:

that's that's a hope and dream, you know on that, I saw something, um, it came across my instagram that, like this dude in china has a track like in his backyard that him and his buddies just raised. That like world, I'll send you it's like world class of course china world class uh uh track, but just a couple dudes driving on it.

Jason:

All right, man, that's about it for this week. Guys, I don't have any roundtables, I don't have anything to cover. I think today was great. I think the highlight today was definitely the 3D printer, which is still on my mind. It's been on my mind the whole time I was presenting, even watching my boy, alonzo do his thing in 2019. So really happy with this. One Over to Eric or Jeff, whatever you guys got for this week to close.

Erick:

I've got nothing, man, I'll be printing away.

Jeff:

I just got a quick one. I just want to give uh one of the comments on the last video. Chatter nine gave some tips. I was talking about trophy truck driving and rallycross and, uh, he gave a couple tips in there. Uh, chatter nine just wanted to give you, you know. Hey, buddy, appreciate it. Um, I'll be researching the quote unquote scandinavian flick, or the Scandi, or the flick for short. So good, catch man. Yeah, appreciate it, dude. Yeah, he's like. Basically I'll summarize he's like hey, you don't really need an e-brake to do all this stuff, you know, and honestly, it becomes a hitch or a limp or a crutch, so learn to do it without it. Point taken, buddy, we'll start grinding away. When I come back from my trip I'll have a new gear shifter and, yeah, hopefully I'll get some time behind it. So, cheers, buddy, appreciate it. Yeah, all right, and drive fast and break even later.

Jeff:

Oh you didn't need to be reminded today.

Jason:

It was. You know when you're about to say something and you take that initial. You didn't see that though. Another great episode, another one bites the dust. Jeff, safe travels.

Erick:

Yes, bud Definitely.

Jason:

Eric, I hate you and I love you at the same time. Happy printing.

Erick:

Anytime man.

Jason:

And with that, guys, thank you so much for tuning in. If you have any questions of any kind, just email us at the chicane podcast at gmailcom. Leave a comment below, like and subscribe and have a great start of your week, thank you.

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