The Chicane Podcast

Tips for the Aspiring Sim Racer

• Track Ghost Sim Racing • Episode 28

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Unlock the secrets of sim racing success with Jason Rivera, Eric Kelly, and Jeff Smart as they share their insights and experiences in the latest episode of the Chicane Podcast. Discover how Eric's journey of building a new PC and upgrading his sim racing equipment has transformed his racing experience, boosting his performance in Gran Turismo 7 and Assetto Corsa. We explore the holiday season's impact on sim racing sales and discuss the thrill of advancing through different driver classes, offering tips and tricks to elevate your own sim racing game.

From the latest in sim racing gear to the tantalizing allure of high-end replica steering wheels, join us in navigating the dynamic world of sim racing equipment. Uncover the benefits of proper footwear and Sim Core pedals, as we provide practical advice for those looking to enhance their racing setup. Our conversation dives into the world of exclusive sim racing products, pondering the potential collaborations between sim racing companies and F1 teams that could lead to groundbreaking innovations in the field.

Get ready to strap in as we shift gears to discuss the intricacies of racing seats and their impact on your sim racing journey. We highlight the importance of choosing the right seat and offer recommendations on brands that balance comfort with performance. Plus, experience the excitement of F1 simulators and the latest developments within the teams, as we speculate on the potential of these cutting-edge technologies. Join us as we celebrate the passion for sim racing, sharing valuable insights and stories that resonate with enthusiasts around the globe.

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Jason:

The Hello and welcome to the Chicane Podcast, where we discuss all things in the sim racing world. I'm your host, jason Rivera, and I'm joined here by Eric Kelly and Jeff Smart. How's everybody doing today?

Erick:

Doing good man.

Jeff:

Doing good as always, man. Great seeing you guys out here again.

Jason:

Hell, yes, man. Just earlier man, it was funny Jeff got out of work and checked his phone. How many messages do you have on the group chat.

Jeff:

Bro, I almost took a screen grab. Oh, I did, I did and send it to you guys. I came out to my phone and I had 73 missed text messages and I was like, okay, so, like a lot of people, the election's going on random text messaging from spam stuff. No, no, no, just from these two knuckleheads. I had 72 text messages.

Erick:

Hey man, the chat was hot today. Man Took me like 20 minutes to read through.

Jason:

We're approaching the holiday season, we're just stepping into November and you know what that means.

Jeff:

That means a lot of sim racing sales, a lot of and then you don't even have to say they gave it to me. You could just say I got it on sale.

Jason:

There you go On sale.

Jeff:

It's going to be a lot of money spending.

Jason:

I can feel it, man. So it's an exciting time, man. Eric Kelly just built a PC. I'm really excited for him.

Jason:

I want weekly updates, man. I want weekly updates on what's going on because everybody knows when you first build a PC, let alone a rig to add to that, it's kind of like, damn yo, I got this brand new machine and it needs attention, and then I also have a rig that needs to be set up with that. So, eric, just give us a quick snap, right, man? What's going on on the rig this week at the Kelly's house? What's going on?

Erick:

Well, so I'm taking my time getting to know it. You know taking it slow. This is a new relationship, but so I still go between as far as the rig goes, still go between the PC and my PS5. They're both hooked up to it, moved up to rank C in GT7, which- oh, hell, yeah, yeah, rank C.

Jason:

That's what's up, man.

Erick:

Yeah, I'm happy about because I've been able to drive fast, but it's really we talked about it before when you're actually racing, like being able to drive the same speed, you know the same pace or similar pace for your qualifying lap.

Jason:

Consistency yes, yeah.

Erick:

And so being consistent, but also just, I feel like I'm to a point where I kind of understand what people are going to do enough to where.

Erick:

I can kind of anticipate like, oh, this guy, he's coming up fast behind me so I'm going to dive bomb. I can kind of, you know, adjust. I think I sent a clip where it was like bumper cars in front of me and I was kind of having to, you know, split guys and slow up and let guys run off and stuff. It's GT7 is the wild, wild west right now, but moved up to rank C, Happy about that. But on the PC front, Assetto Corsa, with some mods installed, I was telling that's the reason why the chat was so long. For the first time I felt like my wheel was trying to kill me. For the first time I felt like my wheel was trying to kill me because of what I was getting from Assetto Corsa. I took a Ferrari 458 Italia on the Nürburgring and I mean I've never felt my wheel just respond like that. I mean everything. And it wasn't. That is addictive, Like woke up, it's scary.

Jason:

But it wasn't. That is addictive, like woke up.

Erick:

Dude I it's scary but it's addictive.

Jason:

I'm excited for you, man, for real. I know what you're going through and it's kind of cool, right, because you bought the SimMagic setup and you bought it for a PlayStation, to get it going, to get yourself going with some legitimate equipment. You know what I mean. Not legitimate, it is legitimate, let me correct myself. But that step up in equipment is what I'm talking about. And now you hook it up to a PC, to a different sim, and you're like, wow, this wheel does more stuff or is capable of way more, which is kind of exciting to hear. Man. I really, yes, I love hearing stuff like that man because, yeah, man, that's a feeling.

Erick:

Yeah, I want to give you your flowers because you know I I went sim magic, I bought what I bought after. You know intense discussions with you having potential thoughts about buying something else Logitech or whatever but this purchase is one where it's like-.

Jason:

There's 28 episodes, man, and you just continue. You just continue to roast me on that. I didn't sell you nothing, bro. I didn't do nothing.

Erick:

No, no, you definitely sold me because I would have went. I wouldn't necessarily spend less money. But the SimMagic ecosystem is really what kind of has me excited. You know, the different wheels and the future of SimMagic.

Erick:

A lot of it kind of just came out with a new batch of stuff, but they're kind of you know, still kind of lagging a little bit, but also just the fact that just plugging my same wheelbase I've been using for the past six months into a pc and it's like I have a new wheelbase, like I've upgraded again and so just you know, just wanted to give you a shot and your wheels too, because now all your buttons function um yeah they work yeah

Erick:

I was telling jason on the neo there are some rotaries. You know, if you've seen a gt neo, there's some red rotaries by the thumbs. Those completely left my mind that they were there. I didn't remember that they were there until jason showed me button mapper and I'm like wait, I can actually use these now because they don't register on the PlayStation. So it's just a world of discovery. I'm like a kid in a candy store right now. Man.

Jason:

You know, I know this is far off, man, but I don't see why PlayStation can't implement an X input, because that's technically, that's what it is right. Next input you know that can support what a 32? What 32 button setup? I mean it's not that hard.

Erick:

You know it's 2024, get with the program so my only assumption is how it's connected, because it's not natively supported. And that's really the biggest problem, because if you plug up the logitech g pro for playstation up to the playstation, it has a bunch of different buttons.

Jason:

I assume you'd be able to map all of those uh the same with the fanatec stuff but it's the same thing as I'm sorry for interrupting, but it's the same thing as plugging in a keyboard.

Erick:

You plug in a keyboard, a full-blown keyboard, into a PlayStation, and all those buttons work All those key presses work, so I mean, and that's why I was saying, if it was, I feel like it was fully supported, then I'd be able to access those. But because it's not, you know, going through the Cortex converter and emulating the DD Pro, then there's some limitations there with it. That's my assumption Because, like I said, when I look at the G Pro wheel from Logitech it has a good deal of buttons on it and I assume all those work because it has full support.

Jason:

So for me, playstation needs to open up the doors a little bit. Um with with support, I think yeah, and to close this, I don't think they will. Because they like their licensed products, they want their, yeah, so it's a money thing there's no competition right now.

Erick:

Right, just just them.

Jason:

So yeah, all right, man. Hey, congratulations on the c rank. Just a quick question on that um, what does that in gt7 being a c rank, does that allow more events, or is it a? Is it an extra? I know it's definitely yeah, what's, what's up with that?

Erick:

so there's no real access. That's given because you're c-ranked. It has more to do with the drivers that you're more than likely to be paired up with okay, so your strength of field type, yeah, strength of field, um, which is noticeably different because with so the lowest rank is e and I haven't encountered many E ranks. I've been kind of hovering in D, but in D you have drivers who might not know the racing line, might not know the track that are racing, and so just if you're able to stay on the track without being, you know, driven off or knocked off or whatever, then chances are you do pretty good.

Erick:

You might have like like, whoever set the top time, whoever qualified one or two first or second, um, usually they'll just kind of be off to the races because they're not in the field with all the crazy people. Um, the hard part is getting up there just kind of depends on what they match you up with. Uh, with c, my time, usually putting me about mid-pack, would see, and these guys are very intentional about trying to win, like if it's a 14 lap race. Every the first lap they're fighting for, every position they're defending super hard. It's just like it. I'm not gonna say it's not fun, but it's intense because, but they're also kind of sloppy and don't really pay attention to racing etiquette. So there's, you know, pros and cons to it.

Jason:

But as far as access, no extra access, just faster, more serious guys, I guess okay, that's what's up and it's, and it's e, d, c, b, a, s, right s b, and I think they use s I don't know.

Erick:

They use s for driver ratings. I've never seen the s um. The highest I've seen is a plus and that's with like the guys that are competing in the world championship, yeah, the world championship.

Jason:

They're all a plus okay, maybe it is, uh, all right, that's what's up, man. Well, congratulations. And you know, you know how this goes. It's just like iRacing and any other sim the higher you go, the better drivers out there and the more confidence you'll feel, because you know that if you do wreck, it's usually just an incident, it's not somebody, uh, just that doesn't know how to drive and just you know cannonballs.

Jason:

You that happens, like it's been happening it's been happening to me lately and on iRacing, because of just my f1 record is not my best and you with iRacing the highs are very dude. The highs are very high and the lows are like.

Jeff:

It sounds very familiar to like a D class F4 race where if you survive the first lap it'd be a fun race. Yeah, it's just about that.

Erick:

That's where I was, jeff, like you say, man.

Jason:

My dumb ass was racing in the d class because I wanted to race it's fun.

Jeff:

You know I wanted, it is fun it's the most active right because absolutely it's more people there's more people on the on the d-ring. Yeah, after that, the higher you go, the less people.

Jason:

Yeah, it ends out true, all right.

Jason:

Well, awesome eric, good for me, yeah hell yeah man so my piece of the announcement portion um, the sim core pedals came in. They feel awesome. There are super high quality um, they're full cnc aluminum, so everything matches now and the only thing I'm going to say about them is that they are a little slippery. If you are a sim, how do you say this? If you sim race in socks, which I don't recommend anybody to do, that's another thing.

Jason:

We should cover the importance of having a proper shoe, because if you got the right shoes, man, you can, you can race for a long time and you can kind of um, it's just more comfortable for me. I race with shoes and now that I put these uh different faces on, uh the clutch and gas, there's no way, you know. So, even while there's no way, so they're kind of slippery, but other than that, you put a. I mean, I tried it just earlier with some jordans on. I know that's not proper wear, but you know it was uh drift racing and I know I spoke all this, all this stuff about having the proper footwear and I'm over here wearing jordans on the oh, bro, I mean I live in flip flops.

Jeff:

So I get in the rig, take my flip-flops off, leave them in the middle and then I'm driving bare feet, that's what happens in hawaii.

Jason:

So so barefoot might, might work on them. So I will say that you know, because you know barefoot has way more grip than socks, but uh, yeah yeah, I'm a barefoot, sometimes socks guy.

Erick:

I can at this one. I can't do shoes just because I feel like I don't feel the pedals. I know it's so. I know it sounds weird, but I'm with you, dude. I started out doing socks, but like if I went full shoes, unless they had, like some really thin shoes or something like that yeah, racing boots, that's what I mean.

Jason:

If you get, if you get the, the, the, it doesn't have to be a brand, you know, know what I mean. Any racing boots that are, because it's the curvature is what I'm talking about. On the toe, it's more comfortable to modulate the pedals, but very little diminishing, right, if you got proper technique. You got proper technique, you got proper technique. I'm not saying that you have to go out and spend money again. Trying makes sense. I'm trying not to. The show is not about you and go and spending money on things. It's about just giving you the options, right, just, uh, pointing them out. Yeah, essentially. So that's it for me. On the sim core, they're awesome. They cost a little bit to ship, so if you're thinking about them, they ship out of Australia and they have adapters for every major pedal set that you can think of. So, very nice, clean packaging. I wish I can show them to you, but I could not wait. I was like a little kid.

Jeff:

I just ripped the box open. We did get the text message picture.

Jason:

We got the text message picture. You got the picture. I should put up a picture man, but that literally just happened. Those things are like brand new.

Erick:

All right.

Jason:

Well, yeah, man. So just today we're going to talk about Rensport, and Rensport just had an update recently and they added an Aston Martin GT3 to the Arsenal and they also added a new track which I thought I had this open and I'm not ready, track which I thought I had this open and I'm not ready and um okay, so I haven't tried it. I need to find this link.

Jeff:

So, Eric, let's move over to the next topic is that I thought I had this up and this is my mistake.

Jason:

We'll jump back to it.

Erick:

Yeah, yeah, no problem, yeah, we'll get back to it, yeah so so my topic is, you know, obviously I'm just overwhelmed with all the options nowadays, especially with the new manufacturers coming in, but I kind of wanted to talk about the wheel collaborations. So you know, moza, they have several collaborations with Porsche and Lamborghini. Even Sim Lab has their Mercedes wheel which costs freaking $2,400. Oh, it's crazy. And I just wanted to yeah, I just, and I'm going to throw up.

Jason:

I think Fanatec came out with Bentley. Now Listen, bro, I know you thought about it, jeff, just by knowing you're an F1atic. Oh snap, here we go. We have some content being. I did, especially because I'm a mercedes guy.

Jeff:

But then I saw the price tag and it's just, it's just so, honestly, in my opinion, it it's not even really a great sim wheel. It is strictly for driving f1 at like the highest level, right, because 90 people aren't using any of those dials in the middle. You know, maybe brake balance, but rear diff, all that stuff on the fly, no yeah look at it, it's, it's sexy right there like but look at that, bro that's. I would buy that and just put it on the mantle. Yeah, look at it Look at it.

Jason:

Yeah, jeff is a Mercedes fanatic. This wheel was built for you, bro. I mean, don't you even?

Jeff:

start that, ricky Bobby, don't you even start that. No, no, no, no, no. This is Eric's topic. We're not talking about me.

Jason:

Okay, yeah.

Jeff:

Let me, I don't want to even look at that thing anymore, eric, what?

Jason:

are you doing to us, bro? Bro, it is a sick wheel. What are?

Erick:

you doing? I just wanted to get y'all's opinion on it because I didn't know if it was being new to sim racing. Is this like a thing that people kind of embrace, or do you feel like it's kind of gimmicky, it's just a money grab? What are y'all's opinions on these, because they seem to be coming out more and more?

Jeff:

often yeah eric can I jump in first because I've been thinking about this a bunch, especially with um the. I'm gonna screw it up the jason. What are you looking at? The shirt the? Um, he's a ticker.

Erick:

No the mclaren collab the artura yeah.

Jeff:

So when I was looking for my wheel, that I was eventually got the soul pack, I really honestly didn't want the mclaren logo on the wheel, you know, and I was like, hey, I would really think about this if it, and it's nothing against mclaren, I just wanted it nice and clean. And it wasn't until just recently, jason, I think that they come out now with no brand on there. So I think you're yeah, the ADAC right.

Jeff:

Yeah, I think it comes out both ways where some people if you're a diehard brand with Bentley or the McLaren, for the fan attack or whatever it is, you kind of it's a double-edged sword because a you're going to, I got to pay the um, the licensing fee, but then you're also stuck with whatever brand is on there, like if if I have a Mercedes on here, which is cool, but occasionally I jump into GT three and I'm driving a McLaren, you know, it's just, I like it clean, no branding. So that's me, it's kind of like it's cool, but then I don't always want a brand on there.

Jason:

I mean, I can respect that. I can respect that that is valid. A lot of sim racers feel that way and that's probably why Asher said hey, man, we're going to sell you a wheel and we could put a custom logo on it if you want, or a name Like imagine having J Smart on there. That'd be kind of sick on your own wheels, custom made for you. But, eric, to your question about if that's a really tough one to answer, man, because there's a lot of people that are fanatics and, in my personal opinion, this wheel doesn't cost twenty seven hundred dollars to make no damn way licensing, no a bunch there's a limit.

Jason:

I'm not rich. There's a limit, there is a limit. Now I know I know what material, I know what, I know what. Now that je, you have a high-end wheel, now you can definitely tell from a SimMagic wheel to your SoulPack, there's no comparison, there's none. You know what I'm saying? Agreed, and yes, materials, cost and construction and development and all this other stuff that goes with it. But slapping a logo on it and calling it Mercedes, I mean, it is a Mercedes wheel because it's licensed by Mercedes, but it's not a real wheel. I don't know, man, it's not a wheel.

Jeff:

A bunch of the reviews I said are saying that it's that's an Russell's car.

Erick:

But it's not an actual.

Jeff:

It's the same carbon fiber, that is yeah Right. Internals are internals right Because, at the end of the day, the electronics and the protocols and the blah blah, blah blah is different.

Jason:

No, but it's not like. This is a wheel that Lewis Hamilton put his hands on?

Jeff:

No, he didn't put his hands on sure, but oh yeah, it's still a badass, I mean, but again like it, it it's. It's to a very small niche people in this niche market and maybe that's why they have to charge so much is because they know they're not going to sell a whole lot and it I'd be curious to see how many they sold. I mean, I'd put it on the mantle?

Jason:

well, it has a mercedes on it. Yeah, you know, mercedes is a mercedes will sell you a hundred dollar towel just because it says mercedes on it.

Erick:

I don't know. I'm pretty sure they're not trying to stay afloat by selling these.

Jason:

I'm sure they're uh I sure hope not expecting to sell a bunch of other wheels because I mean listen, if you, if you're a fan, I say go for it, you know, because if, if you're a fan and you can afford it and it's not going to put you under, because that's the one thing um, I always say if you can afford something and it's not going to, you know you're going to miss a rent or a mortgage payment.

Erick:

Yeah, I was going to say that's a mortgage right there, man.

Jason:

Yeah, that bay's damn near Well not in Hawaii, Harry. Come to Hawaii, You'll see what a mortgage payment site is hey, that's why I would visit.

Erick:

I can't live there.

Jason:

Oh, you can come down anytime, bro, anytime.

Jeff:

Back to your question is it cool that you have options? You know, because there's some diehard you know porsche 911 people that want the actual wheel that's in the car and it gives them options. Right, because nobody's putting a gun to your head to go buy a specific wheel, but at least it gives you options yeah, and it's something that you can look forward to.

Jason:

Like you know, once you're done building your setups and you know you can, you can start saving for it and and just have it. But if I had a wheel like that, I wouldn't I wouldn't even touch it I. It would be in a locked case, you know, on display with a with a hole for a wire so I can plug it into the computer and boot it up or something. But I wouldn't want to put wear on this kind of wheel. That's very specialized, you know.

Jeff:

Good luck changing out grips on that if you ever need to honestly Lifetime supply of whatever warranty, if you ever need to honestly Lifetime supply of whatever warranty.

Jason:

Or maybe I'm being a little too harsh on it because, honestly, I've never worn out a steering wheel before. I don't know what wear is. And I'm telling you, I'm on this thing every day and I don't use gloves because I'm fortunate that I really don't sweat in my hands that much. I occasionally wipe them down. Every week I'll, you know a little Clorox wipe or something, Uh-oh. No, I'm not. You got there, man. You want some, I'm telling you man.

Jeff:

These things are dope.

Erick:

George Russell replica. Oh yeah, and you got it. We're looking for sponsorship, bro.

Jeff:

It's Etsy 100%. They're awesome though it makes me feel like I'm George Russell on the card Easily takes three-tenths of a second. A lap off wearing those things.

Erick:

Easily there, you go Easily there you go.

Jason:

Well, eric how do you feel about this same question that you asked? What are your thoughts?

Erick:

So for me, I kind of think about it like when I used to sell cars. People have an idea of what something should cost, but at the end of the day, are you able to get this somewhere else for less money. And so for this particular wheel, if you want the Mercedes F1 wheel, you don't have another option. Really, this is the one A righteous point. Yeah, they kind of can make up a price.

Erick:

And if it's worth it to you, it's worth it to you, and if it's worth it to you, it's worth it to you To your point. Jason, I would be terrified to actually use it, even though it's probably built like a freaking tank, Like I imagine the build materials and quality. Just from reviews I've seen they always say it's. It doesn't even feel like a sim racing piece of equipment.

Erick:

It feels like it's supposed to be an F1 car. They I mean if, if, if that's what you, you want, that's the only place to get it. Now if sim magic pops up and like hey, we got one too and it's 800 bucks, then you know, you kind of have a decision to make as far as whether it's really worth it or not. But right now they're the only show in town and I I'm pretty sure they work with Mercedes on that contract for the license Like, hey, this needs to be exclusive, at least for a little while.

Jason:

Hell yeah.

Jeff:

It's probably going to remain. Yeah, it'd be interesting to see what grid engineer or some of these higher-end sim companies, if they jump in bed, so to speak, with McLaren or red bull, to come up with their replica versions for, at the same price point, like the actual one-on-one of one you know scale version of whatever irrelevant wheel that max is using, or lando, you know what I? Mean like if the or signed wheel.

Jason:

Imagine signed wheels, sim racing.

Jeff:

That's crazy so I'm sorry, I wouldn't want to restap in one, though I'll burn it. I'm I'm starting to see people bring their wheels to f1 races their sim wheels to f1 races, and having the dudes sign them. Look, so I you should have done that. Jeff, I'm not lugging this thing around.

Erick:

No, go ahead, eric you got something to say. You just reminded me Somebody on Facebook Marketplace Daniel Morad was racing at IMSA in Atlanta. Somebody on Facebook Marketplace had their Mercedes wheel that he had signed for them at IMSA on Facebook Marketplace.

Jeff:

How much did he want for it? For how much? Oh man, Rob Markman.

Erick:

Jr Like 3,000.

Jeff:

Well, the wheel's 2,700.

Erick:

Rob Markman Jr. No, so it wasn't the F1 wheel.

Jeff:

Oh, it wasn't Okay, Rob Markman.

Erick:

Jr, it was the GT3 wheel.

Jason:

Yeah, oh okay, Rob Markman Jr, but they had it. Considering the wheel Me, I was like this is so close. You know, we talked to Daniel. That's a deal, yeah.

Erick:

Like. Well, initially I was just more shocked because I'm like, like we just talked to Daniel, he told us he was going to be in IMSA. I could have been there, but we had prior engagements. But I'm like, I've never seen that before, Like anywhere, the idea of like somebody taking their wheel and getting a sign and you bring it up.

Jeff:

I'm like somebody's already doing that, so I could see that being a market too.

Jason:

Dude, I see I started to see it more, but like, like having been to an f1 race, you're gonna lug this wheel around all day, like that's why yeah yeah but anyway with, yeah, crazy world, with the I know man, and, and nothing guarantees you're gonna get anything signed, so you might just yeah that's not a good look for me, man.

Jeff:

I'm just walking around with a steering wheel all day, hey guys you wearing the right clothes, you can probably get you wearing the right clothes. You could get access somewhere you know, just walking around like you own the place with you. You know matching stuff Like oh, I got to get this to Max or something you know, or Lando. Oh yeah, Sure sir, Sure sir.

Erick:

Easily bro A wheel on the clipboard man.

Jason:

Yeah, exactly, eric. You're preaching to the choir, bro.

Erick:

Just a clipboard and some paper.

Jason:

Don't do no eye contact, Just you know what.

Erick:

I'm saying, hey, I'm late.

Jason:

I got a meeting You're holding me up. Come on, let's go, let's go.

Erick:

Exactly, yeah, that would be hilarious.

Jason:

Yeah, I'm going to put you on the lathe shift. That's what I'm going to tell him.

Erick:

The next thing next time around. You're going to be on the lathe shift right now. Well, all right, man, okay eric.

Jason:

Um, I'm gonna go back to my uh topic, which I apologize for that uh delay here. But uh, rent sport had an update. It's the aston. They added an aston gt3 and the swiss alps community mod track. So that's kind of cool, I guess. Yeah, I'm gonna do something. I'm going to, um, give this sim another chance, because it's been seeing a lot of traction. Um, it's uh, it's been seeing a lot of you know, headlines, I guess, uh, popping up here and there, so I need to give it a fair shot, at least before AC Evil comes out. So I'll have more to say about this on the next episode, and that's pretty much it. You know, the Ransport and their roadmap is kind of all over the place right now and I just I'm worried because it's been almost a year and a half. The game was supposed to launch last december and it hasn't launched yet and we're rolling into december of 24. Oh okay, have you guys tried rent sport at all?

Erick:

I have negative. Okay, um, I I'll say this compared to acc or set of corsa with mods I, it's hard for me to see the appeal just really just being honest. It doesn't seem as refined which, comparing it to games that have been out for almost, you know, eight, nine years um oh, so it didn't visually it doesn't. I mean it's, it's okay, it's not breathtaking or anything like that um when when did you test?

Jason:

it recently on your new setup.

Erick:

Yeah, on my new setup. That was one of the ones I installed because it was free. Yeah, so in the past I mean more probably to you, right?

Jason:

You know, install what you got and then right.

Erick:

Yep, but yeah, I wasn't super impressed with it.

Jason:

Right, and I'm looking honestly, bro, I'm looking at the changes here. And they added Crestacarus probably butchered that track the Aston Martin Vantage GT3, they added Hockenheim Night Mode. I mean, why would you need a night mode as a track? I don't know. Just make it dynamic. New features I'll go. Why would you need a night mode as a track? Yeah, I don't know. Just, uh, make it make it dynamic. Uh, new features, I'll go over this.

Jason:

Added possible possibility to disable, enable volumetric clouds. This is graphics. Player and pick garage are now hidden from other players. Yeah, these are just bug fixes. Um, added possibility to launch the game with an integrated GPU. Okay, so this is what I'm saying. It doesn't seem like this game is ready at all to release to the public. What they should have done was an early access that allowed a more. How do you say this? Like every two weeks they'll have an update or something like that, more active in the community and it would give them more money because people would put money up on this and that'll increase the development time, even though I don't agree with pre-releases, but in this case, right here, if they don't release this game before Evo comes out, they're in some big trouble.

Erick:

Yeah, good luck.

Jason:

You might as well close the doors, bro, because LMU is already a solid contender to AC Evo right now. Yes they have their. Yeah, go ahead, Eric.

Erick:

Oh no, no, I was just saying, lmu is next on my list okay, yes, so I don't think that game's ever gonna have a sale.

Jason:

Uh, I think your best bet is to pick it up while it's in pre-release, because if you or anybody that's you, you know wanting to try it, buy it from Steam. Buy it from Steam, play it for an hour or two hours. If you find that you don't like the game, you can refund it. I did the same thing with F1 24. And I'm giving F1 a break here. Ea, I'm giving you guys a break, a slack. I'm not going to talk smack about you.

Jeff:

But for once.

Jason:

I did refund your game, bro, and I used that was. You know it takes a lot for me to do that, but if you just want to try it, you know what I mean. If you just want to install it, I forgot about that piece. Yeah, steam, it's not like you know. Playstation is very like strict.

Erick:

You buy something they don't want you to refund it. Steam is kind of like hey man, if you don't like this game, there's an option. I did not like it, submit.

Jason:

Yeah, I'll try that out then, fair enough. Yeah, it's quick and easy. I have a strong feeling that you're going to like it, because it's a different set of cars and it's really good. It it's different. It's a different set of cars and it's really good. It's really good. It's getting there. It's getting to the point where it's stable enough to hold an online match of racing and not crash. I'm pretty sure someone out there their stuff just crashed because I said that. But just take that with a grain of salt. But yeah, that's what I got this week for Rennsport. I want to do a test to see how it runs with my own setup and give my own opinion, but I got a feeling that, eric, you may be correct on everything that you just said, but I want to give it the benefit of the doubt, though you know, you just never know.

Erick:

So yeah, it's more like a foundation, like they gotta keep going, but right now it's gonna be hard it's gonna be hard, man, with AC Evo and all the traction, it's just it's.

Jason:

The clock is ticking bro. January 16th, Get the stuff out now, Even if it's broken. Get it out Exactly, All right. So, Jeff, what you got for us man discussion-wise.

Jeff:

Yeah, so I had some got for us man discussion-wise. Yeah, so I had some Wrap set up for me. Yeah, I was watching the F1 race this weekend in Brazil and they were started. I heard a couple sentences about the simulators that each of the teams use, and I think Haas is getting their first sim, which is kind of cool, whatever that means. So but it got me to thinking is that they talk about all the data and stuff that they get from the sim for different conditions, different tire compounds, different temperatures. You know all of the variables. And I got to thinking I'm like what do these teams who who, for all intents and purposes, have endless budgets, right, bottomless pockets when it comes to a simulator and getting data, what do they use? What is their simulators look like? And I started to think. I was like do they are they come? I can't imagine that they're coming up with their own top to bottom simulator for each track. And, okay, maybe they are, that's one thing. And I was like, okay, maybe are they taking, they are that's one thing. And I was like, okay, maybe are they taking some program that's already out there

Jeff:

oh yeah, shit, ton of money, right to program all the programmers, all those other things. But it's an option, right, if you got mercedes and ferrari money, that's an option. But then it's like, okay, do you, do you take a program that's art simulator, that's already out there, manipulate your tire wear to where you think it's the most accurate for your car with the downforce setups, and then you run laps on spot that's that week or brazil, or um and then like, what type of like hardware? Like, do you have an actual cockpit? Are you guys got you know? Are you using a sim eq or a SimLab DDU? I imagine they have their actual wheel in there for the whatever. But what do you guys think that these teams, who have endless budgets, are using for their simulator when it comes to software and hardware?

Erick:

I have a guess, send it. Yeah, I can show you what I think they're probably using. All right, some of these guys right here, where they actually have them in an actual kind of F1 style cockpit. Oh, those. Yeah, like 120, 130 000. They got one for each team huh wait, wait, wait.

Jason:

How much for the, almost how much for the, for the aston, they'll give you it it'll probably break down on the way to delivery. It's all right, man, I got, I got, I got collateral on the house.

Erick:

I'll put my house on this. I'll put my house on this. I'll put my house on this. Jeff, being on the track, what is closer than having the entire front end of a f1 car that you're seeing? Of course you got the screen there as well, but I mean there's that. And then also, we know max was tapping. You know he's using off the shelf stuff in his hotel room.

Jason:

He's just driving, I racing on, so yeah you know, you know that they they ship his simulator in a crate and he travels with it every single week.

Jeff:

I heard that, yeah, I can believe it. And then I heard after he had that crappy performance they were like no more driving in iRacing on race weekends. Bro, you think that's going to stop him bro

Jason:

They're going to be like all right man, so I'm just going to go over to Aston Martin. They need a driver and they'll let me play my simulator.

Erick:

Yeah, that checks out, yeah.

Jason:

That's what I would hit them with. He's been winning. He's winning. Everybody has bad days right.

Erick:

You can't pick something. He does all the time.

Jeff:

Well, not lately.

Erick:

This is why pick something he does all the time? Well, not lately actually, but you know, up until this point.

Jason:

For those of you, minor spoiler and Jeff loves this topic. But for those of you that haven't been, you know, if you're on social media pretty much you're getting spoiled every week. But Norris is catching Verstappen.

Jeff:

Like he's etching creeping up on him.

Jason:

Yeah, and that's probably why they were worried about that, because they saw a decline and this has been declining, declining, declining, declining. But that's easy to say, right, they're blaming this one guy and everything else is just perfect. I don't think so. You know what I mean. Because his teammates not doing well, um, the car reliability wise, is okay, but you know they're losing adrian newey. Adrian newey is on his way out. He's, he's, yeah, he's saying goodbye, if he hasn't said it already. So, yeah, I guess that's a a small bonus topic on f1, even though it's, it's great. Uh, man, f1 is so awesome. I got my brother into it recently, nice, he binge watched the entire drive to survive uh back home all of them.

Erick:

Oh yeah, he's hooked. The struggle is real.

Jason:

Yeah, he's done. After that it's like a drug now. Yep, he's like what am I going to do? You got to watch the real race.

Jeff:

You watch the weekend warm-up, you watch practice one, two and three, you watch qualifying and watch the race. Try to spread it out over four days.

Jason:

Now he's calling me, telling me that you know, telling me right to wrong. I'm like dude. You got like two days in F1. Who are you talking to? You know how it is. You get all excited. You're like, well, you know, this guy's not performing and I was like dude. There's a lot. You need to go back and watch the races first, you know, and then you can see what really happened. You know.

Jeff:

You know, yeah, just to kind of summarize this topic is I did some homework.

Jason:

Yeah, my bad.

Jeff:

No, no, hey, listen, I'll talk F1 all day. You usually have to curtail me on these topics. So I watched a bunch of videos on YouTube, like a lot of the teams give tours of their facilities, right. But there's one thing that they just seem to all have in common is they don't show you the simulator. They kind of show you pieces of it, but never like in the cockpit. You know all of it together. If you will, they show you. You know, some of them are projectors, but I was like, hmm, that's interesting, you know, and it just is.

Jeff:

I would love to see the data that they're pulling and how it interacts with the real world. You know strategy of the day, um, when it comes to tire degradation, downforce levels and things like that. So, um it it seems to be a very tightly cold, controlled, um, um secret. So, yeah, shout out to uh haas getting their own, uh, their own, uh simulator. They don't have to use uh ferraris. Now I think they're getting their own and maybe wind tunnel, their own wind tunnel suits. Enough to share ferrari. So, um, well they're.

Jeff:

They're doing a lot better so maybe budget went up because haas was kind of struggling with starting to perform yeah, winning solves a lot, but, uh, it'd just be cool to see what an endless, bottomless budget could do for a SIM. I mean, it's strictly formula, right, but it would be super interesting to see how they're simulating feedback, what DD that you're using, if they're even using a proprietary. It would just be super interesting.

Jason:

So I know that rally Sims use, use uh d box, you know for the uh, you know the full motion. And that's kind of how it became popular with sim racing and because, oh, okay, then simulators.

Jason:

You know simulators I. I believe that simulators became more important because of COVID, because they had to build something now. In addition, I don't know. We need to dig back and check to see if they were still running simulators back in 2019 and years before that. I'm pretty sure they were, but I'm pretty sure they weren't as state-of-the-art as what we have today because of the need for it. The off-season keep the guy in check. You're not going to put him in F1 2019 to train. That's not going to happen.

Jason:

Yeah, definitely, or F1 2020 or whatever it was back then.

Erick:

But yeah, it's really interesting.

Jason:

I like that question, jeff. I mean that's really interesting. That's something that hey, if anybody watching or if anybody listening knows the answer, please email us at thechicanepodcasts at gmailcom. Please, that'd be cool. Or if you have a link, anything for us to look at, that would be awesome to look at, to see and compare. You know, because there is a guy that builds setups with the simulator.

Jeff:

We just have to find him, yeah there's somebody that did put it together, if anybody knows where this guy lives man we'll stalk him yeah, yeah, that is interesting though, man, but all

Erick:

right, I guess. Yeah, I was going to say keep it in the same vein. You know, you know simulators and what pieces people are using. Um, I did want to ask you guys about your seats. So, just looking for myself to upgrade from my trusty Honda Civic seat that I've been using it's comfortable, but I just want something that's a little bit get a little bit more towards racing and then just aesthetically looks a little bit better. But obviously everything that looks good isn't good. So I do have a question Do you guys have a preference or just a hard stop on reclining seats versus fixed back? And then, even with the fixed back, they have the rally style, they have the GT style, they have the hybrid. There's a lot of options out there. So I wanted to get you guys' opinion on the seats.

Jeff:

Jason, go ahead. This one, I think, is pretty. You've you pushed me in the right?

Jason:

direction and I have zero regrets. I I wanted to hear what Jeff said, but I will happily take this over.

Jeff:

I just don't want to be that guy that makes you spend money.

Jason:

Man, I'm worried now and I I'm. I gotta be careful what I say on the show.

Erick:

I mean I'll take it well, I'll leave with where I'm at right now, and then you can kind of just say sure, yeah, that's good, or no, you regret it? I'm infatuated with this track racer. Hybrid fiberglass seat.

Jeff:

Jason, I got it. So track racer hybrid fiberglass seat no. Jason.

Erick:

I got it.

Jason:

No.

Jeff:

So you can spend the thousands of dollars and go get a real Sparco seat. They're awesome. Jason's got one and it's killer. Jason told me about NRG Am.

Jason:

I saying it right.

Jeff:

NRG. Yes, amazon, $ 312 shipped. It looks like a, like a. It's honestly yeah, it's a car approved seat, like you know it is a car seat.

Jeff:

Yeah, it is a car seat, but it's molded, right, you're, it's, you're not gonna. There's no recline or nothing. Um, it's adjustable mounting brackets. It mounts into your normal seat that you get, you know, it's, uh, like. I got the little handle underneath that you can slide it forward and backwards like a real car. Um, slider, yeah and yeah, slider, and for the price you, you really can't beat, for 300 bucks to have a real seat that is molded and you feel like you're sitting in a race car seat. You know you get the. You know you have your wheel and the seat, you know, and it's nice and firm, and it's it. Do I wish I had the sparco seat? Yeah, absolutely. Can I justify as a a step up at this point? It's a. It's a badass seat for 300 bucks and it looks killer. You can get a couple colors. There's like purple, suede or whatever, and I just like the black. They got some funky colors.

Jason:

Yeah, there's like purple suede or whatever, and I just like the black. They got some funky colors too.

Jeff:

Yeah, they got some glitter shit on there, but honestly, you can adjust the angle that you are and all that other stuff in the mounting, into the slider and stuff. But Jason, help me out here, for the price for what you get is hard to compete with.

Jason:

Okay.

Erick:

Okay.

Jason:

Now, with that said here, compete with okay, okay, is everybody ready for my answer? Here we go, let's go. So I'm gonna be fair. I'm gonna be as fair as possible. I'm gonna be as fair as possible. So when you're shopping for a seat, it first of all, never, ever, ever, ever buy a seat from a rig manufacturer. Sorry, I know I could, I could, I could, I could be screwing myself over here with my youtube content of you sending me a seat.

Jeff:

I don't want them. We try to be straight. Right, that's it. We tell it how it is no no straight chaser.

Jason:

On the chicane podcast I keep getting these slogans from jeff like maybe that's a Boston thing.

Jeff:

Straight, no chaser. Yeah, maybe I'll take it straight. You don't need no chaser, just give it to me it burns, it burns.

Erick:

So you're saying no track racer regardless.

Jason:

No Sim Lab, and I'm a Sim Lab fanatic no Sim Lab.

Jeff:

Those blue seats are nice. You know what it is.

Jason:

They buy these seats and they coat them and they put their logo on it. That's what they do. So NRG Sparco. There's one more that I would recommend NRG Sparco. Nrg is mostly for the mid-range to high-range, depending on the model. Let's be real Sparco is on the upper high echelon. It's it's it's in the high range, but it's a specialized seat. Remember that, guys. Sparco is a seat. It's a seat that's very narrow. You got to make sure you fit in this thing. So if you have a dealer nearby, trust me, do yourself a favor. Go over there, pretend like you're going to buy something or maybe you're going to buy it from them, who knows? But be careful because they're tight.

Jeff:

When I sit in your seat I'm like did I put on some weight or shit? This is-.

Jason:

Yeah, actually, and it was tighter than that and it kind of flexed and it is nice now because it adjusted to me. You know, basically, and this seat is FIA approved. Does it need to be FIA crash approved? The seat's not going to crash. But the reason why I wanted it to be FIA approved is because I didn't want noises. I don't want to hear anything or creaking or sounds or nothing. And that's kind of a discussion where you kind of get what you pay for. You know what I'm saying. So that out the way. Or Recaro Recaro is another seat that I would recommend. Recaro is a great, yeah, high-end seat, very known, and again, you have a warranty with this seat. You buy a seat from Track Racer. Later down the road you find out that it's filled with foam or whatever it is that they use these seats, and your seat too. Jeff, your NRG seat is a full molded construction. It's fiberglass.

Jeff:

Hey, I'm gonna jump in I'm gonna jump in right here because I want to put a bow on that point is the. The molded fiberglass is incredibly important because when you next thing eventually down the road is, you're gonna want some type of butt kicker or something like that and you can mount it directly to the bottom of the seat on that fiberglass stuff and you lose zero of the vibration.

Jeff:

It just goes straight into the seat, straight into you. You don't have to crank up the volume, it already has the seat belt hole that you're that you mount the, the little sandwich, mount that jason, and I kind of, uh, we should, we should copyright that we engineered we engineered it it was designed for it.

Jeff:

It's that the molded thing is a showstopper, at least for me. If I was going to tell somebody you can go anywhere you want, just make sure you get a molded seat so you can do the butt kicker. Because the butt kicker, once you do it, you can't go back no, yeah it's.

Jason:

I cannot be without it. I won't race. I'll turn my shit off. I'll go to bed. Something's wrong with the butt kicker.

Erick:

I'm going to bed I guess I'm going to bed.

Jason:

No for real, though, like that's a great point, jeff because I'd interrupt there, but it was a perfect transition.

Jason:

No, no, no, no, that is a perfect. That is a welcome interruption, man, because I probably would have left that out. I didn't think of that, and you're right. And another thing is comfort. For some reason, sitting in these things are more comfortable than foam, than what you get from. And I know this, guys, because I went through the pain. I went and ordered a freaking next level racing seat that looked amazing, it had like the leather and it looked nice and it reclined and all this stuff.

Jason:

And speaking of recline reclinables, stay away from them. You're going to get flex and when, if you're flexing back and forth now, you're creating a damper with your brake and the moment you don't have that flex, your braking is off or your movements are off. You want to be as stiff as possible. Why a GT seat? Because a GT seat is adaptable. If you buy an F1 seat, that's all you're going to. Race is F1. You're down here and you're not going to. There's no way. So a GTC, yes, it kind of ruins the immersion if you're deep into it. Jeff even told me one time, man, I wish that I had my pedals up here, my seat down here, kind of like an F1 simulator. But then I told him. If you do that, it kind of locks you in to that and that's perfectly fine. If you want to go about that and that be your simulator, you can have a straight F1 simulator. You can be playing everything with a single piece of happy medium is what I call. It is a GTC.

Jason:

And they have screws on them too. No, you're good. Go ahead, jeff, they have screws. All I was going to say is that they do go up.

Jeff:

So that's where I was going to kind of go is so I do 90 percent of formula, you know, 10, maybe 80, 20 between that and gt3 where I have it just canted a little bit to give me a little bit of that f1, because a little bit of the position, but my pedals and it's, it's just upright enough that it's comfortable and passes for gt3 driving. Um yeah, but I wouldn't, to jason's point, unless you are sure you are dead set on only f1, I would not go down that f1 style. But doesn't seem like you you're interested in that but to the listeners and you better make sure that you're dedicated

Jason:

yeah yeah, and and even sparkle wheels, but I mean sparkle seats. Let's say you bought a sparkle seat. That's a thousand dollars and it reclines. I would still not go with a recliner. Why? Because things wear out after a while. You know what I'm saying. But something that's molded. It's molded, it is not. You know, fiberglass is what's? I think that's what's in the F1 cars, right? They're molded fiberglass inside the cockpit. Or is it carbon fiber?

Jeff:

No, I think it's molded fiberglass. Yeah, they take like a mold of the driver. It's pretty cool.

Jason:

So it's durable, it's tested, it's tried. It's a one-time buy. So I mean, for a $400 seat, right, $378, $300, $400, you really can't go wrong with NRG. I'm personally a huge fan of the brand. All my quick releases are NRG.

Jeff:

Same.

Jason:

They make legitimate. Hey, welcome, welcome to the party. Yeah, and when you pick the wheel up and you feel that you feel the quality same thing, you go to your rig and you sit in your chair and you feel and you're like, yeah, that's. You know what I'm trying to say.

Erick:

Yeah, we sold him bro.

Jason:

He's going to buy this shit as soon as we stop this recording. He's probably going to order this shit, if he hasn't already.

Erick:

Yo, just save up for Black Friday stuff, hopefully, yeah, black Friday. So it's confirmation for me, man, because the NRG the only reason I haven't gotten an NRG seat specifically the one off of Amazon.

Erick:

They're like $288 now, like it's crazy. Yeah, it's because of the price. I kind of was shaky. I'm like I'm looking at Sparco seats, looking at Recaro seats Hell, even the track racer seats like they're minimum, you know four or five hundred dollars. So I'm like these energy seats are everywhere, they're right back. Can they really be that that good? But knowing that jeff has one, it's like that's another there she is well, just be careful there is.

Jason:

I would recommend the Prisma model. I there's a-.

Erick:

The one with the glittery back.

Jason:

Yes, but don't get the unless you like the glitter bro, up to you, man. Hey, you know. Nah, I'm good. If you want a glittery background, that's up to you, man. But yeah, yeah.

Erick:

Anybody who wants the glitter, hey, you can have it, man, not for me.

Jason:

I don't know if it's the there's a model because I had this same thing and I told Jeff. I was like Jeff, don't buy this model because I read some bad stuff about one of them.

Jeff:

Eric, I'll link you to the one that I bought on Amazon and I'll give it to Jason so he can throw it in the description of the show. Yeah, 100%.

Erick:

I mean I vouch for it 100, but I've never tried.

Jeff:

I want to know what you buy.

Jason:

I have no gripes I want to know what you buy, man. I want to know because it it's exciting and don't throw that seat away, bro. You can have that seat as a guest seat and you know the car seat. That's what I would do in a corner somewhere I don't know.

Jeff:

Yes, I hang out in front of the TV or something, in the garage or something.

Jason:

Yeah, man.

Erick:

That's a good idea.

Jason:

Or a cigar chair, bro. You can always use those. I'm always searching for the perfect cigar chair. Yeah, give him an idea, bro. I'm telling you.

Erick:

Okay, we already listened.

Jason:

We got him a away out of his seat and what he needs to buy. So I mean, oh, another thing I will say about seats. Guys and Jeff, you mentioned it, you have a seat slider, right. I would highly recommend do not put the seat slider on. I regret putting mine on, do you? I rather have a? Yes, I do I rather have a fixed position. I rather it be bolted down. That way nobody accidentally goes in my rig, and I've had nightmares about this. My brother came over to house he's like I can imagine him drunk in the house because he came over on vacation and just dipping in the rig and oh, let's see what this does and just completely messed up my perfectly perfect seating. And even Jeff. I tell him hey, jeff, you coming to the house, right, so chair bro.

Jeff:

You're going to wiggle yourself in there. I'm more gingerly getting your rig than I do in like a military aircraft if I was to get it. But on the other side of the spectrum is like I do get enjoyment of watching, like my friends from the mainland that come out and they've seen, they know this is a hobby of mine, they know the podcast and I want to see them get in there. And if, like one of my friends is like six eight, there's no way he's getting into there. Oh, yeah, he's like, yeah, he's tall dude.

Jeff:

uh, there's no way he's getting in there six eight yeah, he's a tall dude, tall like I think you've seen.

Jason:

So what is he? You should just put the game on the top monitor for him, because he's probably going to be, but it's cool to see.

Erick:

It's cool to see, that's terrible.

Jason:

It's cool to see other people's reaction. Hey, if you're watching, I'm sorry man.

Jeff:

Nah, he's good dude, He'll forgive you, okay, but anyways, there's pros and cons to both, to having the slider and stuff.

Jason:

I think it's cool because it adds a little bit of realism to the. You know, like, oh people, like, oh man, you even got a slider for this thing. Um, so, yeah, yeah, so, and you can't go wrong with energy, because it comes with a slider. So I mean, if you want it, you have it, if you don't, you don't. I mean it's up to you. Um, but yeah, again, this is. This is good we get to hear jeff's.

Jason:

My perspective is, when I first got the rig, it needed to have that slider because my thing was sliding in back and forth. But because I changed this is a personal thing because I changed sims so much sometimes how do you say this by moving the seat back to drive a truck and be more relaxed whenever I want to go to GT racing, I found myself wasting time like, okay, scoot up. Oh no, that's too far. Okay, wait, that's too back. Oh wait, that's too far. So I kind of found where I needed it to be and just left it the way it is and not moved it, and then just adjusted my pedals and did all my adjustments based off that seat position. That's why I'm kind of anal about it, you know, there's no other word, I'm just anal about it.

Jason:

Yeah, I can see that. Yeah.

Erick:

Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.

Jason:

That's the stuff, man.

Erick:

That's a done deal for me.

Jeff:

Man, yeah Suit that leg, yeah, yeah, yeah that makes sense, that's a done deal for me, man.

Jason:

Yeah, yeah, absolutely, but um that'll be.

Jeff:

We'll provide you the info, eric. We'll get you where you need to go, bro. That's why I bring my questions on man I'm. You know we're called enablers, pile them up.

Jason:

there you go and to be fair, jeff, c is pretty comfortable I like it.

Jeff:

I love it no complaints.

Jason:

It's probably more comfortable than my own Sparkle seat. Again, you might find it different, Eric. So if you have a dealer around, you happen to be blessed to live in the lower 48. You don't have lower 48 problems like we do in Hawaii.

Jeff:

Nobody feels bad for us.

Jason:

Yeah.

Erick:

There's no equipment and nothing.

Jason:

Bro, seriously Go out there, do some window shopping and just say, hey, I'm just looking for a seat and sit in them. That's all I can tell you. Sit in them, Try them out. Amazon, you can't go wrong. Can't go wrong with Amazon. Order the stuff you don't like it, Pack this thing back up, Send it back to them. So either way up to you. And to close that out, the Sparko seats and I'm pretty sure Recaro seats as well, they sell a non-FIA version and it's usually like 150 less or whatever. I just wanted the legitimate, the sticker.

Jeff:

It's badass. I'm not going to sit here and say it's not, it's a cool seat, that is official, whatever I don't know.

Erick:

They look good now. Oh, it looks hella good.

Jason:

Oh, I murdered the thing out. You and they look good now. Oh, it looks hella good. Oh, I murdered the thing out. You can barely see it. It's a sparkle. See, it's murdered out with stickers. But yeah, I think that's about it for today. We're kind of cutting it close on the time and that's just the thing. All three of us get on this podcast and the time just flies Like if you guys would see the show notes here. We're like we're going to have to move some stuff to the next episode because we just get into it and I don't know, I'm just happy to be here, episode 28. Can't believe it's been, wow, almost six, what is it? Seven months now of podcasting and we're rolling into the new year, so I don't know, we might have some drinks on a live thing. I don't know. I'm thinking about doing something That'd be cool.

Jeff:

It's just. This is how we are, like the five minutes before we hit rolling, like we're just sitting here shooting the crap up with the boys, you know, and it's cool that you know, we know people listen to us and we're part of their drives to work and stuff like that, as we're talking about things that we're prideful in. Yeah, yeah man.

Jason:

So I'm excited. I'm excited. Eric's part of the PC crew. He's always been part of the crew, but now he's always been part of the crew, but he's now he's part of the PC crew, so and he's still for all you listeners out there I think I said this on the last episode but he is still a PlayStation. He is still our PlayStation expert connoisseur. It's back there, it's hidden, it's getting dust kind of. But if you guys have any questions for him, I want that to continue. Please ask him away. He's here to help on the PlayStation side of things. He's not going to leave you guys behind and that's all. I have Any roundtables, guys?

Erick:

None for me.

Jeff:

I do have one. In our last episode we had an individual Young Belize made a comment and asked us to talk about the Soul Pack that I got right over there you can barely see To talk about on the show. So, young Belize, next week I will have a session on here where we talk about it. I'll give it up here and I'll try to get up here, show and click some buttons and show some of the cool features, some things I like about it, some things that I wish was a little bit different. Um, but yeah, we owe that to you. We've been talking about it, about how it took me 47 million days to get off my can and actually hit the order button. But yeah, we'll get your buddy, yeah.

Jason:

And it'll be good to um, get your opinions on it. Like it's been a while, so you've had it for a while now. Um, it's been a while, so you've had it for a while now. It seemed to make a buzz too at the ADAC, mike told us here on the show. So I mean that's really good for the company. I want to say that's a small company, because the company is like a small company.

Jeff:

Yeah, they worked. I mean I don't want to get into it now. We'll steal the thunder for the next one. But Young Belize, we got you, buddy.

Jason:

Hell, yeah, man and Young Belize. Thank you for the comment on YouTube. Email us at the Chicane Podcast if you have chicanepodcast at gmailcom If you have any specific questions for Jeff that you would like him to cover on the next episode and we'll put that in. But yeah, that's it for this week. Thank you so much, guys, for being here again. Once again, and to all you listeners and viewers, have a great Starview week. Thank you.

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